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    Yes absolutely. In fact, I would say even more so at a high school.
    Why would you want to punish the kids for something they had no involvement in, rather than root out the adults with any role in it and rid/distance yourselves from said disgusting individuals?

    I dont think this has to do with PSU. It has to do with a sick, disgusting individual and the spineless cowards that enabled him.

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    ^Please.

    They sat on the Tiger Woods story till she took up the 9 iron in public, MSM picked it up and they had no choice but to bleed him out.

    They sat on the steroids in baseball story until McGuire & Sosa bled us out then they bled them out.

    They sat on this one as well. The children were of no consequence.
    They didn't sit on the Tiger Woods story at all. It only became public when people wondering why Tiger's wife was chasing him out of the house with a golf club and swinging it at him. Are you seriously this dumb?

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    I still can't fathom a guy seeing some 50 year old man porking a 9 year old in a shower and not trying to intervene, or, at least call 9-1-1. It defies logic.

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    Players in all types of sports get suspended for doing something stupid at the expense of the fan.

    The tat players should not have been rewarded by getting to play in the bowl game.
    Then I am glad people much smarter than you made the right decision.

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    They didn't sit on the Tiger Woods story at all. It only became public when people wondering why Tiger's wife was chasing him out of the house with a golf club and swinging it at him.
    That's my point, asshole. They wouldn't print it because they were making money on him and they weren't going to piss in their own Cheerios as long as he was carrying their water. But, once she made a public spectacle and MSM came sniffin', the ring of Media around him had no choice but to rip the bark off his ass. It was no longer within their sphere of control. They had not dealt MSM in on the deal. So, they made a dollar & dime beating Woods half to death.

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    They didn't know about it, re .

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    And remember that the "death penalty" at least in college is 1-2 years, not more. You're not talking about generations and generations of kids getting affected by the punishment. You're talking 1 or 2 senior classes.
    k.

    either way, the NCAA has no business punishing the school for a crime having nothing to do with football/sports aside from the alleged criminal being a coach.

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    I still can't fathom a guy seeing some 50 year old man porking a 9 year old in a shower and not trying to intervene, or, at least call 9-1-1. It defies logic.
    Well when this 50 year old happens to be your defensive coordinator you might think twice. Atleast JoePa did

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    Media. I'm not distinguishing it. People in Media knew and joined in a gentlemen's agreement to keep it quiet. Now they come out of the woodwork after the win record is acheived and start beating their collective chests wanting Paterno's hide. It's ridiculous.
    yes, ridiculous is the word.

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    Why would you want to punish the kids for something they had no involvement in, rather than root out the adults with any role in it and rid/distance yourselves from said disgusting individuals?

    I dont think this has to do with PSU. It has to do with a sick, disgusting individual and the spineless cowards that enabled him.
    On the premise that the high school hypothetical involved the same type of 10 year cover-up, only punishing the individuals involved to me doesn't seem enough. That's just me. Innocent players pay for the for the indiscretions of others all the time. All the NCAA violations involving bowl bans and limited scholarships largely affect players who had nothing to do with the violations. But somehow you have to make the ins ution pay for those violations.



    You have to be a really special kind of re ed to seriously think the media was sitting on a story this attention worthy and jaw dropping but decided to do nothing with it. If you were the journalist who broke this story wide open it would make your career, no journalist would sit on this and wait for JoePa to break the all time wins record.
    There was an article written about Sandusky back on April 3rd of this year by the Beaver (haha it's called Beaver) County Times. That was 7 months ago. The national media has been sitting on the story. This story should have hit ESPN many months ago.

    http://www.timesonline.com/columnist...r-comment-area

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    k.

    either way, the NCAA has no business punishing the school for a crime having nothing to do with football/sports aside from the alleged criminal being a coach.
    Not punishing them for the crime. Punishing them for covering it up for nearly 10 years. That's an administrative issue that has to deal with protecting the football program. Seems like something the NCAA should punish imo.

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    ^Please.

    They sat on the Tiger Woods story till she took up the 9 iron in public, MSM picked it up and they had no choice but to bleed him out.

    They sat on the steroids in baseball story until McGuire & Sosa bled us out then they bled them out.

    They sat on this one as well. The children were of no consequence.
    lol conspiracy theories

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    On the premise that the high school hypothetical involved the same type of 10 year cover-up, only punishing the individuals involved to me doesn't seem enough. That's just me. Innocent players pay for the for the indiscretions of others all the time. All the NCAA violations involving bowl bans and limited scholarships largely affect players who had nothing to do with the violations. But somehow you have to make the ins ution pay for those violations.





    There was an article written about Sandusky back on April 3rd of this year by the Beaver (haha it's called Beaver) County Times. That was 7 months ago. The national media has been sitting on the story. This story should have hit ESPN many months ago.

    http://www.timesonline.com/columnist...r-comment-area
    Maybe cause there wasn't enough evidence and ESPN was worried about releasing something with severe accusations. There's no way they sit on this story if they knew how big it was gonna get.

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    lol conspiracy theories
    Nonsense. It's understandable. Media isn't going to cut their nose off to spite their face. Woods was a cash cow. McGuire & Sosa were cash cows. Paterno was a cash cow. They could protect & wait for Woods as long as he was at prime. Only his wife going nutty nuts ruined it. The call hit a police scanner and some wise ass heard it and came a runnin'.

    No real harm in the Woods case in all honesty. Without conscience by Media, but, it's America.

    And so it ed up the records books forever more in the McGuire/Sosa dog & pony show. MLB knew too, but, couldn't stop themselves from fouling their own bed.

    In this PA., case the children were deemed powerless and "invisible" by everybody. Media wrote their own ticket on this one.

    It's fantastic is what it is.

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    Maybe cause there wasn't enough evidence and ESPN was worried about releasing something with severe accusations. There's no way they sit on this story if they knew how big it was gonna get.
    As much evidence as there is now. The indictment is sealed. Only the grand jury and Blake have the poop.

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    Maybe cause there wasn't enough evidence and ESPN was worried about releasing something with severe accusations. There's no way they sit on this story if they knew how big it was gonna get.
    There still isn't enough evidence now. But the story broke after Paterno notched 409.

    Read that article. There was already an ongoing grand jury investigation on Sandusky dating back to 2009. Isn't that enough to make it newsworthy? It was a published article in a small Pennsylvania town newspaper. The story breaks out nationally 7 months later? After 409?

    Also I heard on sports radio earlier today that the prosecuting attorney (not the DA but the prosecutor who handled the initial 1999 case) has been missing for years and no one knows where he went, and he was assumed dead 2 years ago. This cover-up goes much deeper than a lot of people are willing to accept.

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    Then I am glad people much smarter than you made the right decision.
    People much greedier than me made a business decision.

    Smarter people than you at Ohio St decided it shouldn't have been in the Sugar Bowl after all and refunded it's earnings from the game.

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    Me & Jammie on this issue.

    Me & Deepy on the lockout issue.

    I God's.

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    Also I heard on sports radio earlier today that the prosecuting attorney (not the DA but the prosecutor who handled the initial 1999 case) has been missing for years and no one knows where he went, and he was assumed dead 2 years ago. This cover-up goes much deeper than a lot of people are willing to accept.
    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/09/sp...tery.html?_r=1

    Questions on Sandusky Are Wrapped in a 2005 Mystery

    One of the questions surrounding the sex-abuse case against Jerry Sandusky is why a former district attorney chose not to prosecute the then-Penn State assistant coach in 1998 after reports surfaced that he had inappropriate interactions with a boy.

    The answer is unknowable because of an unsolved mystery: What happened to Ray Gricar, the Centre County, Pa., district attorney?

    Gricar went missing in April 2005. The murky cir stances surrounding his disappearance — an abandoned car, a laptop recovered months later in a river without a hard drive, his body was never found — have spawned Web sites, television programs and conspiracy theories. More than six years later, the police still receive tips and reports of sightings. The police in central Pennsylvania continue to investigate even though Gricar’s daughter, Lara, successfully pe ioned in July to have her father declared legally dead so the family could find some closure and begin dividing his estate.

    Yet as the Sandusky investigation moves forward, questions will be asked anew about why Gricar did not pursue charges against him 13 years ago. A small but strident minority believes Gricar did not want to tackle a case that involved a hometown icon. Others who knew and worked with Gricar say he was a meticulous, independent and tough-minded prosecutor who was unbowed by Penn State, its football program and political pressure in general.

    “No one got a bye with Ray,” said Anthony De Boef, who worked as an assistant district attorney under Gricar for five years. “He didn’t care who you were; he had a job to do.”

    De Boef said Gricar did not share any information with him about the case in 1998, which involved Sandusky allegedly showering with an 11-year-old boy. Gricar, he said, reviewed the police reports in private including, presumably, notes or recordings of two conversations that the police heard between Sandusky and the boy’s mother. But Gricar had a reputation for thoroughness, and if he thought he had enough to charge Sandusky, he would have, De Boef and other lawyers said.

    Still, the cir stances surrounding Gricar’s disappearance prompt many questions.

    On April 15, 2005, Gricar, then 59, took the day off. At about 11:30 a.m., he called his girlfriend, Patricia Fornicola, to say he was taking a drive on Route 192. About 12 hours later, she reported him missing.

    The next day, Gricar’s Mini Cooper was found in a parking lot in Lewisburg, about 50 miles from his home in Bellefonte. Gricar’s cellphone was in the car, but not his laptop, wallet or keys, which were never recovered. Months later, the laptop was found in the Susquehanna River without its hard drive, which was discovered later. It was too damaged to yield any information. On the fourth anniversary of his disappearance, investigators revealed that a search of his home computer yielded a history of Internet searches for phrases like “how to wreck a hard drive,” according to a report at the time in The Centre Daily Times.

    When Gricar disappeared helicopters, dive teams and patrol cars were deployed, and the F.B.I. was brought in. Reports of Gricar turning up in Illinois, Ohio, Michigan, Maryland and other states proved to be dead ends.

    So what happened? Friends and colleagues say Gricar was not the type to walk away. His bank accounts were not touched after he disappeared, he had no other sources of income and he had no major debts, said Robert Buehner Jr., a friend and the district attorney in Montour County. Though divorced twice, he seemed happy with his girlfriend and close with his daughter. Gricar had already announced that he was retiring at the end of his term.

    “He was absolutely looking forward to his future,” Buehner said.

    If Gricar committed suicide, Buehner added, he would have wanted the body to be found. Foul play is the next possible conclusion. By the nature of their jobs prosecuting criminals, district attorneys end up having many enemies. But no credible suspects have emerged.

    “I don’t think you’ll find too many district attorneys who disappear,” said Ken Mains, a detective who works on cold cases in Lycoming County. “D. B. Cooper, Amelia Earhart, Jimmy Hoffa, until a body is found, there are going to be conspiracy theories.”

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    And so it ed up the records books forever more in the McGuire/Sosa dog & pony show. MLB knew too, but, couldn't stop themselves from fouling their own bed.
    actually, rumors of steroids were swirling all through the home run race of 98.

    I clearly remember Rick Reilly from SI badgering Sammy Sosa to take a quick test just to show everyone he hasn't taken anything.

    MLB and the players union covered the players, not the media.

    In this PA., case the children were deemed powerless and "invisible" by everybody. Media wrote their own ticket on this one.

    It's fantastic is what it is.
    Just one name in the media would suffice, thanks in advance.

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    and lol at Paterno being a media cash cow, pre-scandal

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    Is that the official decision?

    I know Paterno announced he was retiring at season's end, but I think PSU officials can still fire him. That may still be a possibility. I know that PSU President will either resign or be voted out by the board of trustees by the end of the day, that is almost certain now.
    And now it's official. Both Spanier and Paterno are done.

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    Man I feel for Penn State students, alumni, and fans. I can't imagine how most of you guys feel about things right now. How you holding up? This must suck major ass.

    I would take a billion recruiting violations by my school over this .

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    actually, rumors of steroids were swirling all through the home run race of 98.

    I clearly remember Rick Reilly from SI badgering Sammy Sosa to take a quick test just to show everyone he hasn't taken anything.

    MLB and the players union covered the players, not the media.



    Just one name in the media would suffice, thanks in advance.
    & MLB gave Media their marching orders, and Media abided. Because that was the deal. They got the ride up with McGuire & Sosa, and when it all fell apart they took off after 'em with equal zeal. Nobody had accounted for Canseco though. The booger under the bed. He ed it for everybody because they wouldn't let him in and share the payday.

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    As much evidence as there is now. The indictment is sealed. Only the grand jury and Blake have the poop.
    I dont have anything other than what's been reported.

    You are the one claiming media cover up.

    Let us in on your scoop!

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