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    I get the mockery of my "test of character" argument, but as a believer in an omnipotent God it's a logical deduction. You can choose to believe everything is random or that everything happens for a reason. I choose reason.

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    There's nothing logical about a God who is supposed to over see and take care of humans but amputates their limbs in order to test their character. It's your prerogative to believe it, but it's not logical.

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    There's nothing logical about a God who is supposed to over see and take care of humans but amputates their limbs in order to test their character. It's your prerogative to believe it, but it's not logical.
    I could either believe it happens for a greater purpose or I could believe it's vengeful (i.e. they did something wrong). I choose the former.

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    There's nothing logical about a God who is supposed to over see and take care of humans but amputates their limbs in order to test their character. It's your prerogative to believe it, but it's not logical.
    Agree with your point of it being logical or not...


    On the other hand...why do you presume to think or know that any god would use logic?

    Why do humans think they can use logic to explain god when no one even knows who or what god is. Why would you try to apply logic to something unknowable?


    The people who are certain that god exists...are pretty blind.

    The people here who are certain that god DOES NOT exist and are ridiculing those who do...are pretty blind also.

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    Will you show me the part in the Qur'an that allows them to do what they did please.
    ]fight in the way of Allah with those who fight with you...[2.191] And kill them wherever you find them, and drive them out from whence they drove you out, and persecution is severer than slaughter, and do not fight with them at the Sacred Mosque until they fight with you in it, but if they do fight you, then slay them; such is the recompense of the unbelievers.
    ...whoever flies in Allah's way [forsakes his home to fight in Jihad], he will find in the earth many a place of refuge and abundant resources, and whoever goes forth from his house flying to Allah and His Apostle, and then death overtakes him [in Jihad], his reward is indeed with Allah...[4.101] Rodwell: And when ye go forth to war in the land, it shall be no crime in you to cut short your prayers, if ye fear lest the infidels come upon you; Verily, the infidels are your undoubted enemies! [4.102]...let them take their arms...let them take their precautions and their arms...there is no blame on you, if you are annoyed with rain or if you are sick, that you lay down your arms...[4.103] Khalifa: Once you complete your Contact Prayer (Salat), you shall remember GOD while standing, sitting, or lying down. Once the war is over, you shall observe the Contact Prayers (Salat); the Contact Prayers (Salat) are decreed for the believers at specific times.[4.104]...be not weak hearted in pursuit of the enemy...
    ...fight the leaders of unbelief...[9.13] What! will you not fight a people...[9.14] Fight them, Allah will punish them by your hands and bring them to disgrace, and assist you against them and heal the hearts of a believing people.

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    The people here who are certain that god DOES NOT exist and are ridiculing those who do...are pretty blind also.
    What are you looking at the these blind people aren't?

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    Are you blind because you think that there's an afterlife that gives meaning to your actions life? Really? Hey if that works out for you, more power to you. If you don't need God, more power to you. For me, and for a lot of people, faith in God is important. If that pisses you off, too bad. Move to Holland.

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    i thought you were done with this thread.

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    Principle got on by boredom.

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    I could either believe it happens for a greater purpose or I could believe it's vengeful (i.e. they did something wrong). I choose the former.
    Not sure I buy the argument that torture or unpleasant things happening to children happen for a "purpose".

    If so, it would seem that purpose is, well, evil.

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    Not sure I buy the argument that torture or unpleasant things happening to children happen for a "purpose".

    If so, it would seem that purpose is, well, evil.
    no no, thats satan's work. but god is much more powerful than satan, so...god doesn't give a .

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    why do people try to personify God? If God is infinite and has always been, why do people who don't believe in Him try to personify Him? I know it's to relate and compare Him to ourselves but I just don't get it. I guess it's a way to better understand something that we can't comprehend if He's truly limitless.

    happens and I don't know if happens for a reason but it happens.

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    any that happens is a test. lol

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    any that happens is a test. lol
    Whether or not you believe in God, happening to you is always a test in your life. It's what makes or breaks us and it's what makes people choose or not choose to follow God

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    Not sure I buy the argument that torture or unpleasant things happening to children happen for a "purpose".

    If so, it would seem that purpose is, well, evil.
    Torture and unpleasant things happened to children by Jerry Sandusky. Would those things have happened to children if he feared the eternal wrath of God for those actions?

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    why do people try to personify God? If God is infinite and has always been, why do people who don't believe in Him try to personify Him? I know it's to relate and compare Him to ourselves but I just don't get it. I guess it's a way to better understand something that we can't comprehend if He's truly limitless.

    happens and I don't know if happens for a reason but it happens.
    Believers personify God as well. That's a major part of religion.

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    Whether or not you believe in God, happening to you is always a test in your life. It's what makes or breaks us and it's what makes people choose or not choose to follow God
    yep, thats how the church sucks you in.

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    Would those things have happened to children if he feared the eternal wrath of God for those actions?
    yes

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    Not sure I buy the argument that torture or unpleasant things happening to children happen for a "purpose".

    If so, it would seem that purpose is, well, evil.
    God knew it was the only way to get Paterno's old ass the out tbh. 10 young boys' assholes is a small price to pay when you step back and look at the big picture.

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    Would he have raped those boys if those boys each had 20 foot alligators next to them?

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    Would he have raped those boys if those boys each had 20 foot alligators next to them?
    pretty sure he didn't deliberately take this boys to the everglades.

    one could rationalize that god gave him the urge.

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    pretty sure he didn't deliberately take this boys to the everglades.

    one could rationalize that god gave him the urge.
    You dodged the question. No sincerely God fearing person would rape anybody. God didn't make him like that. The man turned away from God on his own. And he should've feared him. if godlessness wasn't so popular it wouldn't have happened. But keep teach people you don't need fear. Just don't get mad when like this happens. Sandusky actions are just a product of a godless world you love so much

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    Look, god works in psychotic and inefficient ways.

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    You dodged the question. No sincerely God fearing person would rape anybody. God didn't make him like that. The man turned away from God on his own. And he should've feared him. if godlessness wasn't so popular it wouldn't have happened. But keep teach people you don't need fear. Just don't get mad when shut like this happens.
    mental

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    You haven't answered the question.

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