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Pretty simple premise. I wish I could say I wasn't so cynical as to find it implausible that Republican politicians are actually playing games with the economy for the sole purpose of winning the presidential/national elections next fall.
I find it not only plausible, but downright probable.
The GOP is always in election mode. The are tremendous campaigners as evidenced by Baker but very porous when it comes to policy. Your question assumes that they have a priority other than maintaining in bency and I do not believe that they do for the most part.
All politicians are s to money.
Why is everyone here still surprised? This is the system that we have approved for two hundred plus years...and it is based on the rich getting richer and the rest of the people scrambling for crumbs.
It will only change (not in our lifetime) when the have- nots finally say " this" and revolt and decide to burn this whole place to the ground and take what is theirs,too.
Anything other than this and we are all just simply being played...the system is genius from the perspective of the haves....it is working exactly according to plan.
For the have nots....it is just scrambling around fighting for crumbs and pointing fingers at each other and continuing to play the game of electing different s/politicians to keep playing this game according to the script already laid out.
Why can't everyone see this clearly?
Only 9 votes?
Surely more of you have an opinion?
Oh, it was an actual question?
I just assumed it was rhetorical.
True, if RG wanted a better response the choices should have been more akin to
1. Are republican politicians actually playing games with the economy for the sole purpose of winning the presidential/national elections next fall?
or
2. Is Obama a money-sucking Marxist ,socialist.. and taking over the Senate and keeping the house, our political saviors from this American-hating demagogue?
I think that would have been much more reasonable....
Absolutely no doubt that the Repugs want the max people in the max pain and the economy as weak as they can make it, block everything that could help the economy, and blame it all on Obama. Enough Americans are ing stupid enough to believe them.
McConnell said the Repugs' primary goal is to defeat Obama, and no president has ever been re-elected with unemployment at 9%.
Repugs have presented nothing but pro-cyclical bills (make the down cycle worse). Deficit reduction/cutting spending in a deep recession will make the economy worse and kick millions more out of jobs. Their silly balanced budget amendment, no hope in of passing 38 states even if it got out of Congress, has been estimated to produce 15M more jobless.
Last edited by boutons_deux; 11-12-2011 at 05:37 PM.
The intentions of the GOP should be obvious when looking at the candidates running in the republican primaries. Some people even fall for the 'left' facade that Ron Paul tries to use.
http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthre...46#post5468746Confidence in the US economy is in the gutter. Our credit rating has been downgraded for the first time ever.
Could it be that confidence is down because we are printing money like there is no tomorrow in order to finance wars in the middle east?
Could it be that ending the wars could bring confidence back into the US economy and the US dollar?
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Could ending our imperial policies abroad move capital to begin flowing through our economy again, creating jobs and bringing an end to this depression?
You're damn right it would.... And it is not an option for either major political party.
Senator Obama pointed this out...BEFORE he was elected President.
stupid ass OP/supporter of tweedle dee party name calling and finger pointing tweedle dum party.
So ironic that this post le even exists. Right now, it's the democrtas derailing what republicans want to do.
You guys can't have it both ways. Republicans control the house, where bills originate. Democrats control the senate, which is where we are now having problems.
Even if they were, would it be a surprise or outrage?
The GOP told us their #1 Goal was to make sure Obama was a one-term president. Their #1 Goal isn't to protect America, or fix the economy. It's to make sure Obama is a one-term president.
No surprise at all. Such is the sad state of politics in America.
It's too bad politics has become so polarizing.
No.
And as an American, I don't appreciate you insinuating that Republican members of Congress are consciously trying to create a negative economic atmosphere in order to make it difficult for Barry Obama to be re-elected. If anything, the GOP is trying to make policies that give job creators confidence to hire more people...the trickle down would trickle down if the Demonrats allowed it to. But no, they just want to tax the hardest working people in our economy. How ungrateful. How...un-American!
You are my favorite troll, bar none. Most, like say, Parker, and even myself a couple of times, don't even know they have been suckered in.
Well played, sir.
Democrats have their foibles.
But the party is where the moderates have been moving to, and despite its failings and own ups still seems to be at least vaguely sane.
There is a difference, and we don't think that magic courts and lawsuits will be a working subs ute for good, accountable government.
#1. Dont delude yourself. People are moving away from die-hard alliegances to the two parties. People's confidence in government and the two party system is at an all time low.
#2. You are blatantly insinuating that "good accountable government" is more desireable than the rule of law, which you attempt to slight as fanciful ("magic"). This is downright laughable, for more reasons than I care to count out loud.
3. How can you generalize Democrats as being more sane than Republicans? Because of the clowns who frequent this board and call themselves Republicans, but are really just Fox parrots? How can you expect to be taken seriously when you make statements like this...statements rivaling WC's best punchline material?
You say that, but all I see is:
"Bla bla bla, chestthumping bla bla bla chemtrails and flouride bla bla bla"
Well past my bedtime. Your particular brand of stupidity is all starting to blur together. Time for this old man to roll home.
No, it's principled objection. But, I won't deny that they're taking a harder line because they don't like the record of the current president.
yes. It's been blatantly obvious for at least two years.
"democrtas derailing what republicans want to do"
Dems didn't derail affirming "In God We Trust"
Dems will certainly derail the hopeless stupidity of the destructive Balanced Budget Cons utional amendment.
Repugs put forth abortion bills nearly 20 times.
What Repug plans for the jobs and economy, assuming there have been any, have the Dems derailed?
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"GOP is trying to make policies that give job creators confidence to hire more people"
What bull . The job creators, sitting on $Ts in cash as are the banks, don't see any consumer demand worth hiring for.
"I don't appreciate you insinuating that Republican members of Congress are consciously trying to create a negative economic atmosphere in order to make it difficult for Barry Obama to be re-elected."
what you don't appreciate, probably willfully lying to yourself, is that is EXACTLY what the Repugs doing, while proposing absoluting nothing that creates jobs or eases the foreclosure crisis.
It's funny that the relig-iots never catch on that they only do that when they are in the minority position. They had the House, Senate, POTUS, and stacked SCOTUS for six years, and no abortion bill passed.
If you have a bunch of one issue voters and you solve their issue, they go away.
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