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  1. #101
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    lol losing after being up 3-1 and quitting on your team in a game 7

    talk about under achieving
    You've no room. Your Nash quit as well.

  2. #102
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    ^
    lol closer
    lol clutch
    lol leader

    lol being called these things because you won four times as the 2nd option. Not even the 2nd option if you go by the TS% and some Lakerfans like that stat.
    Boiled down:::

    Kobe: 5

    the bag: 4

  3. #103
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    Comparing Shaq's rings to Kobe's when Shaq is the reason he got the first three.
    The proof is in the pudding:::Kobe won two without Daddy. Daddy only won one without Kobe.

  4. #104
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    Boiled down:::

    Kobe: 5

    the bag: 4
    4 quarters is worth more than 5 dimes

    worried about system changes because Kobe/Lakers can't win on a fair playing field.

    The proof is in the pudding:::Kobe won two without Daddy. Daddy only won one without Kobe.
    Daddy never got a $100million skunk.

    Is that also proof that D-Wade was better than Kobe because he won in 2006 and Kobe failed in 2004(because shaq was too old,fat,and out of shape).

    Lakers should have just traded Kobe for D-wade.

  5. #105
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    4 quarters is worth more than 5 dimes

    worried about system changes because Kobe/Lakers can't win on a fair playing field.



    Daddy never got a $100million skunk.

    Is that also proof that D-Wade was better than Kobe because he won in 2006 and Kobe failed in 2004(because shaq was too old,fat,and out of shape).

    Lakers should have just traded Kobe for D-wade.
    You do the quarters & dimes. I'm doin':::

    Kobe: 5

    the bag & Daddy: 4 a piece

    I'd rather have Kobe and 5, than Wade and 1.

  6. #106
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    worried about system changes because Kobe/Lakers can't win on a fair playing field.
    Yep.

    I don't do fair.

    It's my religion.

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    You've no room. Your Nash quit as well.
    Quitting in a game 7 is worse than any other quitting.

    Game 7s are when legends are born. Kobe's two most infamous game 7s are quitting and going 6-24 from the field.

  8. #108
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    Quitting in a game 7 is worse than any other quitting.

    Game 7s are when legends are born. Kobe's two most infamous game 7s are quitting and going 6-24 from the field.
    Uh, uh, none of that crapola. Your Nash quit. Just like MJ quit. Just like Kobe quit. Just like Pippen quit. The Spur's Rodman quit too. They each quit and they're all in the same boat.

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    The fact you're comparing Kobe to a ringless pussy like Nash only proves my point.

  10. #110
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    The fact you're comparing Kobe to a ringless pussy like Nash only proves my point.
    You denigrating your own team will not put a stopper in my bottle, lover.

    Nash quitPERIOD

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    I'm a Cavs fan. They're my team.

    Just like you were a Suns fan prior to the Gasol trade.

  12. #112
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    I'm a Cavs fan. They're my team.

    Just like you were a Suns fan prior to the Gasol trade.
    I'm still a Suns fan.

    & your team is the SunsPERIOD

  13. #113
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    If Michael Finley played with Shaq, would he be considered the 2nd greatest SG of all time? Probably. And he'd have more championships than Kobe.

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    If Michael Finley played with Shaq, would he be considered the 2nd greatest SG of all time? Probably. And he'd have more championships than Kobe.
    Tbh prime T-Mac and Shaq would have in PILED UP championships

  16. #116
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    tee, hee.

  17. #117
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    TMAc was a great player no doubt but the "lionizing" of him is ludicrous. I wish his back had stayed strong. He probably would of won as many les as his cousin ... Vince. Dude is mad overrated. Amazing length, skill-set but something was "missing" upstairs in b-ball smarts I was never a big fan.

  18. #118
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    Lebron's ceiling is only low because he keeps failing. Doesn't anyone remember LBJ was supposed to be the next Jordan, with a more physical toolset?

    Everyone in this thread saying, "LBJ can't help that he's a weakminded pussy" and then blasting Shaq for not staying fit... uhm... whiskey tango foxtrot? You could use the same argument to say Shaq's ceiling is lower because he wasn't mentally prepared to dedicate himself the way all the greats do.

    4 is greater than 0.

    How many rings would Shaq have had to win to be just an achiever? 6? 7? 10?
    Shaq would hover around 7-8, most likely.

    Shaq WAS mentally ready, though. Until his first chip, he had work ethic and was hovering around the best shape in his life. Lebron is always in his best shape, since 2008 he has had pretty good work ethic and he is doing everything right he has control over.....except accepting his role on a team.

    Difference is this: Shaq got lazy and never reached his ceiling. Lebron is banging on his ceiling, trying to move it up. Shaq underachieved without question, while LBJ is achieving what he can in the role he is trying to play.

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    Tbh prime T-Mac and Shaq would have in PILED UP championships
    How do you think A.I and Shaq would've done?

  20. #120
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    Kobe minus Shaq < Reggie Miller

  21. #121
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    Tbh prime T-Mac and Shaq would have in PILED UP championships
    Replace Kobe with T-Mac and you replace a hard working player with a lazy talented player. I don't think T-Mac had what it took to make deep playoff runs.

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    Dude is mad overrated.
    This reminds me of someone...

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    Replace Kobe with T-Mac and you replace a hard working player with a lazy talented player. I don't think T-Mac had what it took to make deep playoff runs.
    neither did Kobe post-shaq/pre-gasol

    You're fooling yourself if you don't think Shaq could have won with T-Mac.

  24. #124
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    neither did Kobe post-shaq/pre-gasol

    You're fooling yourself if you don't think Shaq could have won with T-Mac.
    I don't like Kobe, but his work ethic has always been in the 99th percentile. Considering how he has bounced back from injuries thoughout his career, it's obvious he maintained work ethic.

    I think they would have won something, just not a 3peat. T-Mac never made a deep playoff run so he is completely unproven.

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    ^ well if they had the officiating help Shaq and Kobe had they could definitely three-peat. Perhaps even do better.

    As for Kobe work ethic I don't know because I don't watch him practice. I mean I could trust espn but if I did I would be believing he's also clutch. I'll google a work ethic percentile chart of all the players.

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