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    Do you really believe Oswald did it, and did it alone? Do you believe one bullet caused 7 wounds and came out hardly damaged and then mysteriously appeared on a stretcher at the hospital (not even Oswald's stretcher)? Did Oswald really get off that many shots in so little time with the precision the Warren report claims? Or was there a conspiracy to kill President Kennedy and to cover it up and blame a lone nut assassin?

    I'm fully convinced our government killed our President and covered it up. Polls for decades show the majority of Americans also believe there was a conspiracy.


    I'll start with one video that breaks down many details and also link Bush Sr. to the murder as well.


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    My God Mouse...

    Almost an 1-1/2 hrs... that.

    I did some searches, the only thing I found so far that appears as evidence at all, that Bush was involved with the CIA in 1963, was a 11/29/1963 do ent that said in it:

    "furnished by Mr. George Bush of the Central Intelligence Agency"

    1) How many "George Bush" names do you think existed in 1963. According to one search engine I checked, there are 6634 people named George Bush in the USA.

    2) Very carefully reviewing the PDF file, the letter and line spacing is not consistent with the rest of the do ent, and some of the letters do appear they came from a different typewriter.

    I printed two copies of it and very carefully compared them to each other with a bright light shining through.

    The last paragraph was done on a different typewriter at best.
    Last edited by Wild Cobra; 11-14-2011 at 05:22 AM.

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    My God Mouse...

    Almost an 1-1/2 hrs... that.

    I did some searches, the only thing I found so far that appears as evidence at all, that Bush was involved with the CIA in 1963, was a 11/29/1963 do ent that said in it:

    "furnished by Mr. George Bush of the Central Intelligence Agency"

    1) How many "George Bush" names do you think existed in 1963. According to one search engine I checked, there are 6634 people named George Bush in the USA.

    2) Very carefully reviewing the PDF file, the letter and line spacing is not consistent with the rest of the do ent, and some of the letters do appear they came from a different typewriter.

    I printed two copies of it and very carefully compared them to each other with a bright light shining through.

    The last paragraph was done on a different typewriter at best.
    I'm not Mouse.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zapata_Corporation

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    Are you sure?

    You sure act like Mouse.
    Nothing to see here but cir stantial.

    The one memo doesn't mean but a concerned citizen reporting something that raised red flags. The second memo is the one I very carefully scrutinized. That yellow highlighted area does not match the rest of the do ent for typewriter spacing.

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    I don't remember where I was...

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    Another video?

    They didn't announce it or dismiss us from school.

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    Another video?

    They didn't announce it or dismiss us from school.
    I'm sorry, I don't think this response refutes the video. Bush was CIA and involved, but I also don't want to get away from the point of this thread. Whether or not there was a conspiracy. He was a player among many others.

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    I'm sorry, I don't think this response refutes the video.
    What will.

    Were you even around in 1963 like some of us older farts?

    I was refuting the contention that anyone over 5 would have known where they were.

    Do you really think that the way people can place cir stantial evidence together means squat?

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    What will.

    Were you even around in 1963 like some of us older farts?

    I was refuting the contention that anyone over 5 would have known where they were.

    Do you really think that the way people can place cir stantial evidence together means squat?
    You would almost be done with the 1st video already if you opened your mind.

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    What will.

    Were you even around in 1963 like some of us older farts?

    I was refuting the contention that anyone over 5 would have known where they were.

    Do you really think that the way people can place cir stantial evidence together means squat?
    That's ridiculous. Especially since Bush called the FBI himself with a bogus tip about the assassination on THE day within the next hour of the murder, but yet he doesnt remember? A guy who later became the Director of the CIA doesn't remember that?

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    That's ridiculous. Especially since Bush called the FBI himself with a bogus tip about the assassination on THE day within the next hour of the murder, but yet he doesnt remember? A guy who later became the Director of the CIA doesn't remember that?
    Is it possible he chose not to be honest because of conspiracy theorists like you Mouse?

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    What will.

    Were you even around in 1963 like some of us older farts?

    I was refuting the contention that anyone over 5 would have known where they were.

    Do you really think that the way people can place cir stantial evidence together means squat?
    The first memo, written by FBI Special Agent Graham Kitchel on 22 November 1963, names Zapata Off-Shore regarding the John F. Kennedy assassination at 12:30 p.m. CST that day. It begins: "At 1:45 p.m. Mr. GEORGE H. W. BUSH, President of the Zapata Off-Shore Drilling Company, Houston, Texas, residence 5525 Briar, Houston, telephonically furnished the following information to writer. .. BUSH stated that he wanted to be kept confidential. .. was proceeding to Dallas, Texas, would remain in the Sheraton-Dallas Hotel."

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    You would almost be done with the 1st video already if you opened your mind.
    I have far better things to do.

    FYI..

    I went from a graveyard shift to a swing shift. I have not yet been able to adjust and sleep when I get home. I am usually awake until about 5 AM Pacific time (7 AM Texas.) I am not just sitting on the internet, nor will I watch something that long. I am watching Netflix, and periodically pause and come back here. I am mul asking, and Netfix takes priority over your silly ass conspiracy theory.

    Now...

    If you wish to give me pertinent index times on the video, I will load it up and go to them. However, I will not waste 1-1/2 hrs of my life without pertinent index points.
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    The first memo, written by FBI Special Agent Graham Kitchel on 22 November 1963, names Zapata Off-Shore regarding the John F. Kennedy assassination at 12:30 p.m. CST that day. It begins: "At 1:45 p.m. Mr. GEORGE H. W. BUSH, President of the Zapata Off-Shore Drilling Company, Houston, Texas, residence 5525 Briar, Houston, telephonically furnished the following information to writer. .. BUSH stated that he wanted to be kept confidential. .. was proceeding to Dallas, Texas, would remain in the Sheraton-Dallas Hotel."
    And what does that cir stantial evidence mean?

    What could it mean?

    What, do you know, beyond a shadow of doubt, does it mean?

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    And what does that cir stantial evidence mean?

    What could it mean?

    What, do you know, beyond a shadow of doubt, does it mean?
    It means it is an actual FBI memo and names Bush Sr as the tipper from Zapata, and that Bush later lied that he didn't remember where he was on that day.

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    SA...

    I challenge you to print to copies of the second memo, and compare them through a bright light.

    Now...

    If even if I were inclined (biased) to believe the conspiracy theory, when I see something that looks manufactured... What should I believe?

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    It means it is an actual FBI memo and names Bush Sr as the tipper from Zapata, and that Bush later lied that he didn't remember where he was on that day.
    OK, I will agree that he probably lied about his location at the time. How is that relevant, beside possibly not wanting a connection to be established that he turned in a citizen concern of a threat to the president?

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    OK, I will agree that he probably lied about his location at the time. How is that relevant, beside possibly not wanting a connection to be established that he turned in a citizen concern of a threat to the president?
    Why lie about that several years later? And since he lied about that, what else did he lie about?

    At least so far we have established that he lied about something concerning himself pertaining to the JFK assassination.

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    Why lie about that several years later? And since he lied about that, what else did he lie about?
    I see...

    You have never, never, lied over some reason not so good. OK...

    At least so far we have established that he lied about something concerning himself pertaining to the JFK assassination.
    So what?

    Maybe he never wanted people to know he was that close. Does it matter?

    Tell me. Do you also have a copy of his Rolodex for that day? Maybe he was no where close, and had a business meeting. Maybe what he heard had no relevance, and never wanted someone else to find out that he improperly fingered someone.

    We can guess all day to his motive, but in the end. there is only very weak cir stantial evidence. If you wish to hang your integrity on that, then what can I say Mouse.

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    My God Mouse...

    Almost an 1-1/2 hrs... that.

    I did some searches, the only thing I found so far that appears as evidence at all, that Bush was involved with the CIA in 1963, was a 11/29/1963 do ent that said in it:

    "furnished by Mr. George Bush of the Central Intelligence Agency"

    1) How many "George Bush" names do you think existed in 1963. According to one search engine I checked, there are 6634 people named George Bush in the USA.

    2) Very carefully reviewing the PDF file, the letter and line spacing is not consistent with the rest of the do ent, and some of the letters do appear they came from a different typewriter.

    I printed two copies of it and very carefully compared them to each other with a bright light shining through.

    The last paragraph was done on a different typewriter at best.
    Back to the second image of the do ent with the highlighted paragraph:

    3) Have you ever seen an official do ent without a signature block on the bottom? Appears to me the highlighted area was added over the top!

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    I'm fully convinced our government killed our President and covered it up.
    why would the govenrment kill the President?

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    why would the govenrment kill the President?
    Certain people didn't want him to pull out of Vietnam, ending the Federal Reserve, breaking up CIA operations against Cuba. He was shaking up the establishment and it got him killed. Power and greed.

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    Certain people didn't want him to pull out of Vietnam, ending the Federal Reserve, breaking up CIA operations against Cuba. He was shaking up the establishment and it got him killed. Power and greed.
    It's a lot simpler than that. LBJ had him killed so he could be President. Oswald was the fall guy, and Ruby was already set up to eliminate the link.

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