Patriots are better without Moss!!!

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Tbh I'm just having fun in this thread and interpret it as Patfan placing blame early in the season for the inevitable playoff flameout.

Strange thing is, no one in the AFC really sticks out as being ahead of the pack. Pittsburgh is solid but clearly in decline. New England cant defend anyone, but can score effectively and still has Tom Brady. Baltimore should be the best, but they still have Joe Wacko.

Doesn't really matter, because barring some meltdown or injuries, its hard to find anyone who will beat Green Bay. I actually hope they go undefeated and win the championship, just so the 72 Dolphin gots can go off themselves.

[Axe Murderer]

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[Axe Murderer]

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

He isn't good enough to be a #1 guy on an all-offense no-defense team hoping to win a championship (which exactly is what this Patriots team is), but then again, not many receivers are. But after seeing the Pats win 3 championships with mediocre talent at receiver such as Troy Brown and Deion Branch, I'd say he certainly is capable of being a #1 guy in the right situation, as Welker on a bad day is >>> Brown and Branch on their best days.

The Patriots won championships with Troy Brown and Deion Branch before it became a must to have an elite passing offense to win the superbowl. Even though it's only a few years the game has changed a ton and having a great passing offense is more important than anything else these days.

[Blake]

nobody is blaming Welker. He can't help it that Brady forces passes that he isn't physically capable or talented enough to make a play on. Nobody is against Welker. We just pointed out the simple fact that Welker isn't a complete receiver or good enough to be the #1 guy on this Pats team if they want to win a le. Tech fans interpreted that ass some attack on their ass buddy. Nobody hates Welker or blames him, we just arent re ed enough to turn a blind eye to his limitations.

I'm still just wondering why you are whining and crying about him being the #1 guy when it's obviously working.

Still no answer. Still see crying. and whining.

[Blake]

The Patriots won championships with Troy Brown and Deion Branch before it became a must to have an elite passing offense to win the superbowl. Even though it's only a few years the game has changed a ton and having a great passing offense is more important than anything else these days.

Pats in 2011: 326 passing yard per game without deh fade route.

#1 in NFL

you're being a dip .

[stretch]

The Patriots won championships with Troy Brown and Deion Branch before it became a must to have an elite passing offense to win the superbowl. Even though it's only a few years the game has changed a ton and having a great passing offense is more important than anything else these days.

I can't neccesarily argue with this.

[Blake]

I can't neccesarily argue with this.

Nobody is arguing with it.

[Bill_Brasky]

A lot is made out of the importance of a great passing game but the Packers looked completely different and a million times better when they discovered James** Starks near the end of last season. He should get a lot of credit as well.

[Blake]

Lol frank starks

I think you mean tony

[Pelicans78]

One dimensional passing teams still can't win a Super Bowl.

[Pelicans78]

I would argue for Jimmy Graham since he's very explosive and athletic downfield, but his hands, route running, and blocking need work. Still, its only his 3rd year playing football. His potential is limitless.

[TIMMYtoZO]

I would argue for Jimmy Graham since he's very explosive and athletic downfield, but his hands, route running, and blocking need work. Still, its only his 3rd year playing football. His potential is limitless.

The same can be said for Jake Ballard. It is amazing how everyone underrates this kid. He is already a top 10 tight end and will be a top 3 by next season.

[Monostradamus]

I'm still just wondering why you are whining and crying about him being the #1 guy when it's obviously working.

I know as a Tech fan a 6-3 record would have you guys felching each other's assholes in delight, but that really isn't impressive for the Patriots, especially when the offense has been less than stellar in those losses and a couple of those wins too.

[Blake]

I know as a Tech fan a 6-3 record would have you guys felching each other's assholes in delight, but that really isn't impressive for the Patriots, especially when the offense has been less than stellar in those losses and a couple of those wins too.

Point to a specific game where forcing the ball into Welker was the problem so we can give some meaning to your tears.

[Bill_Brasky]

I know as a Tech fan a 6-3 record would have you guys felching each other's assholes in delight, but that really isn't impressive for the Patriots, especially when the offense has been less than stellar in those losses and a couple of those wins too.

Weren't the Pats 14-2 last year and lost their first playoff game?

Meanwhile, the Packers squeaked in at the last second and won it all.

[vander]

Pats gonna win the SB

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Meh, Tom Brady was just as good during the regular season last year if not better, and the defense by no means looked good last year but it led the NFL in turnovers and had somewhat of an iden y.

Tom Brady's last good playoff game was against Jacksonville in 2007. Until he shows he can still play at a high level in the playoffs, the Pats winning the superbowl is a huge question mark.

[Blake]

lol only 4 receivers caught passes against the eagles

[lefty]

Meh, Tom Brady was just as good during the regular season last year if not better, and the defense by no means looked good last year but it led the NFL in turnovers and had somewhat of an iden y.

Tom Brady's last good playoff game was against Jacksonville in 2007. Until he shows he can still play at a high level in the playoffs, the Pats winning the superbowl is a huge question mark.

Yup