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I'm pretty sure I covered this 30 posts ago.
Actually, that is exactly the point Ignignokt is arguing
So you'd agree that a private business, such as an eatery, could "evict" people based on race because it is their right as property owners?Yes.
You have the moral ethical right to do what you wish with your own property.
I'm pretty sure I covered this 30 posts ago.
The whole discrimination straw man was a digression from the OWS discussion anyway...
The first amendment gives you the right right to demonstrate in public spaces but it doesn't give you the right to homestead them.
I agree. Just pointing out there was one hyper-aggressive internet -bag that was actually arguing for that ridiculous point.
CC speak for, "I'm wrong, or I'm unable to read and interpret basic messages."
It's cool CC, you can contradict exactly what someone else is saying and then try to backpedal by saying it was a tangent.
You are such a stupid argumentative little . I never fell for your ridiculous straw man. No back pedaling here.CC speak for, "I'm wrong, or I'm unable to read and interpret basic messages."
It's cool CC, you can contradict exactly what someone else is saying and then try to backpedal by saying it was a tangent.
You aren't backpedaling. Nope. You just have a problem sharing your opinion before you actually read the thread, instead you cast aspersions and call people out for misrepresenting positions others have taken, and attacking/dismissing them based on those responses.
I set your stupid straw man on fire.
Give it up, .
I bet you'd like this guy's cartoons too. You'll enjoy them for altogether different reasons than people with any amount of intelligence, but you'll enjoy them nonetheless.
Oh and here's a perfect one for you...
Its not a strawman. You just do not think of the logical extensions of what was said.
Ig said that it was his moral right to do with his property as he will.
Thats called a blanket statement wherein any action that a man might will on his own property is fair game. As such things like murder or discrimination can be brought up.
Its like saying that you love green things but call it a strawman when someone points out you don't like grass.
I was under the impression that it wasn't private anymore, they were making it public in order to get out of taxes or something?
Why am I not surprised?
Occupy' crackdowns coordinated with federal law enforcement officials
Rick Ellis
Minneapolis Top News Examiner
November 15,2011
ExaminerOver the past ten days, more than a dozen cities have moved to evict "Occupy" protesters from city parks and other public spaces. As was the case in last night's move in New York City, each of the police actions shares a number of characteristics. And according to one Justice official, each of those actions was coordinated with help from Homeland Security, the FBI and other federal police agencies.
The official, who spoke on background to me late Monday evening, said that while local police agencies had received tactical and planning advice from national agencies, the ultimate decision on how each jurisdiction handles the Occupy protests ultimately rests with local law enforcement.
According to this official, in several recent conference calls and briefings, local police agencies were advised to seek a legal reason to evict residents of tent cities, focusing on zoning laws and existing curfew rules. Agencies were also advised to demonstrate a massive show of police force, including large numbers in riot gear. In particular, the FBI reportedly advised on press relations, with one presentation suggesting that any moves to evict protesters be coordinated for a time when the press was the least likely to be present. The FBI has so far failed to respond to requests for an official response, and of the 14 local police agencies contacted in the past 24 hours, all have declined to respond to questions on this issue.
But in a recent interview with the BBC," Oakland Mayor Jean Quan mentioned she was on a conference call just before the recent wave of crackdowns began.
Not surprising....these demonstrations are making the 1% very uncomfortable and they are sending in their private police force to disrupt the demonstrations...
....won't work...
Where are you demonstrating, dan?
Well, the only thing left to be determined is when do the police slap on the SS patches?
This guy had a busy day with all those protestors resisting arrest..
Where are you in these pictures?
http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...-movement.htmlThen came the middle-of-the-night raid on Tuesday in New York. The police went in with little notice, and barred journalists from the scene. According to the Washington Post, NYPD helicopters even refused to allow CBS News helicopters to film from above. A reporter from the New York Post—easily the paper most sympathetic to the cops—was roughed up; he told the New York Times’ Brian Stelter that the violence was “completely deliberate.” At least half a dozen journalists were arrested, including reporters from the New York Daily News and the Associated Press. During a press conference in New York’s Foley Square on Tuesday afternoon, Manhattan Borough President Scott Stringer said he’d never seen such an attack on journalists trying to cover a demonstration in all his years in politics.
Because there were so few journalistic witnesses, it’s hard to get a read on just how much violence the police used. But amateur video from the confrontation is harrowing, suggesting that serious force was deployed against the demonstrators. New York City Councilman Ydanis Rodriguez was injured in the raid, and was still bleeding from the head when he was arrested and jailed. As of Tuesday afternoon, his lawyers had still been unable to see him, which one of them, Andrew Stoll, said was unprecedented in his dealings with One Police Plaza. “
The way the police are moving in just strikes me as beyond shady and down right ed up. Don't like this one bit.
Good.
Maybe next time they tell them to leave they will leave. The journalists and the councilman were just as guilty as the other protesters and had no right to expect anything else than to be ejected forcefully.
Journalists should have a right to be there to cover what is going on. Why was the helicopter not allowed to fly? Why are lawyers not being given access to their clients?
All of this happening in the place where the local government and police could easily be swayed by the financial sector since - after all - they're local. And you say good?
Mmmk.
Sympathy
Before and after photos
http://www.buzzfeed.com/mjs538/zucco...after-eviction
Obedience to police power trumps expression and freedom.
Nice to know where you come down on this, CC.
Nice to know you endorse the violence too.
Are you surprised?Obedience to police power trumps expression and freedom.
Nice to know where you come down on this, CC.
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