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  1. #76
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    Isn't Mayweather older than Pacquiao? How could he be waiting for Pac to decline?
    Because he's a counterpuncher and a technician.
    They may both have the same speed but Manny has the greater punching power.
    Technical boxing wont deminish but speed and power will decline.

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    after 30 a human body loses mass, power and speed at an alarming level. Those are Manny's best traits.

    that is why both look vulnerable right now.

    IMO a vulnerable Pacman could lose to a vulnerable Mayweather. Because Mayweather is so good at staying away and running in the ring, and still getting points.

    an old Manny would have to chase that guy around. Not good news for Manny.

    That is why probably is best this fight does not take place anymore.

    Had this fight taken place 2-3 years ago, Manny woudl have anihilated that poor Mayweather.

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    IMO the best thing for Manny is to have a clear safe exit strategy. He already proven everything. He already proven he is best fighter in the last 10+ years.

    I'd recommend 2 fights next year. Some generic mexican to get back to basics and then Marquez 4 to finish off his illustrious career.

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    BTW here is a vid of how Mayweather ducked both Margarito and Cotto.

    watch margarito approach Prettyboy Floyd and scare the out of him


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    I mean homie approached him and said "I wanna fight you" and Prettyboy goes on about making business decisions ass niga

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    IMO the best thing for Manny is to have a clear safe exit strategy. He already proven everything. He already proven he is best fighter in the last 10+ years.

    I'd recommend 2 fights next year. Some generic mexican to get back to basics and then Marquez 4 to finish off his illustrious career.
    So basically what you're saying is that Pacquiao shouldn't fight Mayweather 'cause he's probably gonna lose? That's sad.

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    So basically what you're saying is that Pacquiao shouldn't fight Mayweather 'cause he's probably gonna lose? That's sad.
    yup it is sad to be a pro athlete and reach 32. just the facts of life. Just look at Kobe or Duncan.

    time to close the door on best boxing career in 12 years and go be the president of Phillipines for the next 16 years. boohoo what a sad life

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    "I can accept failure, what I can not accept is not trying."

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    "I can accept failure, what I can not accept is not trying."
    - Matt Bonner

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    "I can accept failure, what I can not accept is not trying."
    who says they arnt trying?

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    So basically what you're saying is that Pacquiao shouldn't fight Mayweather 'cause he's probably gonna lose? That's sad.

    Manny at his current state of mind and seeing how lousy he fought JMM will lose to mayweather and me as a Manny homer, my mind wants to delay the so he can get the distractions outta the way first. But, my heart wants the fight to happen now because one of these fighters are ready to call it a career.
    We dont want to be robbed of a once in a generation fight between the best defense vs the best offense.

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    New p4p rankings:

    #1 Floyd Mayweather Jr.

    Hits: Even after 16 months out of the ring following his near shutout of Shane Mosley in May 2010, Mayweather returned to action on Sept. 17 and showed not the slightest bit of rust. Still fast and possessing great defense and underrated power, Mayweather knocked out Victor Ortiz (albeit in controversial fashion) in the fourth round to reclaim one of the les he had previously given up. Now, instead of disappearing on another long layoff, Mayweather has announced plans to return on May 5, ideally against Manny Pacquiao -- if Pacquiao's people will come to the bargaining table.

    Misses: It's great that Mayweather seems to be showing real interest in finally facing Pacquiao, but since Pacquiao just fought, how about giving him a little bit of time to unwind before insisting on a negotiation right now? Where was that kind of urgency at any point in the past few years?
    #2 Manny Pacquiao

    Hits: Pacquiao and Juan Manuel Marquez, who had already produced two memorable battles in featherweight and junior lightweight le bouts, met for the third time Nov. 12 and gave fight fans a worthy trilogy with another outstanding and highly compe ive fight. With Pacquiao's victory, the path is wide open for him to at long last meet Mayweather in the fight the world wants to see.

    Misses: Pacquiao, who was a massive favorite to beat Marquez because they were fighting at welterweight, looked as vulnerable as he has in a long time. Although he eked out a majority decision, few would have quarreled had Marquez gotten the win or had the fight been ruled a draw. Pacquiao looked confused at times and lacked snap on his punches in a less-than-stellar outing. It just wasn't the kind of performance we have come to expect from Pacquiao, especially in light of the fact that Marquez had been wiped out by Mayweather in 2009 in his only other welterweight fight. Although a fourth fight with Marquez is certainly warranted at some point, it absolutely should not be next, which is what Top Rank's Bob Arum, Pacquiao's promoter, is talking about pursuing. Mayweather should be next, and it's going to have to be up to Pacquiao to stand up to Arum and tell him to make a deal. Period.
    http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/id...boxers-nos-1-3



    #1 Floyd

    #2 Manny

    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/201...ngs/index.html

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    who says they arnt trying?
    I'm arguing hater's theory that Pac shouldn't fight May.

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    BTW here is a vid of how Mayweather ducked both Margarito and Cotto.

    watch margarito approach Prettyboy Floyd and scare the out of him



    what a got

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    New p4p rankings:

    #1 Floyd Mayweather Jr.


    #2 Manny Pacquiao

    They'd rank a fighter who has to cheap shot his opponent to win over someone who went toe to toe with a fighter that has been constantly giving him trouble?

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    They'd rank a fighter who has to cheap shot his opponent to win over someone who went toe to toe with a fighter that has been constantly giving him trouble?
    hey man don't ask me i didn't make these rankings. Dont shoot the messenger.

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    shows you the stupidity in these rankings. But i guess its like the BCS right. #1 guy wins and the #2 other guy didnt even "play" and they somehow jump over the #1 guy. lol.

    I like this though:

    Misses: It's great that Mayweather seems to be showing real interest in finally facing Pacquiao, but since Pacquiao just fought, how about giving him a little bit of time to unwind before insisting on a negotiation right now? Where was that kind of urgency at any point in the past few years?

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    btw i think Marquez is more deserving of the #1 spot them PBF.

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    This is what I've been saying all this time. That nigglet has been ducking fighters 5'8 and above. What a

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    Look, Morales beat the guy like a savage. He was given a draw against Marquez. And Floyd has beat the living dog out of the top four guys on Manny's resume. So I guess Oscar is not Mexican.
    Last I checked, Pac made DLH quite while destroying Margarito and Cotto. Incidentally, Floyd has been ducking both Cotto and Margarito since 2005.

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    Isn't Mayweather older than Pacquiao? How could he be waiting for Pac to decline?
    Mayweather fought a lot less than Manny and let's be honest here, PBF hasn't really taken a beating in his entire career.

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    So basically what you're saying is that Pacquiao shouldn't fight Mayweather 'cause he's probably gonna lose? That's sad.
    If winning eight les in eight weight divisions is sad to you then go ahead.

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    SI. When did SI become the bible of boxing? Last I checked, Ring Magazine still ranks Manny at number 1:

    http://ringtv.craveonline.com/ratings

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    SI. When did SI become the bible of boxing? Last I checked, Ring Magazine still ranks Manny at number 1:

    http://ringtv.craveonline.com/ratings
    For ratings ended Nov. 7, 2011.

    You should probably wait until they update them there's a reason they weren't posted.

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    For ratings ended Nov. 7, 2011.

    You should probably wait until they update them there's a reason they weren't posted.
    you seriously think Fairweather should be #1???

    even if you only consider only their last fight.(which would be stupid) Pacman beat arguably the #3 in the weight class, Fairweather beat a nobody when he wasn't looking

    boxing is in a sad state if mother ers think Fairweather's cheap shots deserve #1 pound for pound
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