Congress pushes back on healthier school lunches

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I mentioned another person; never meant to mention Madison.

I certainly thing TJ would take exception to a ridiculous expansion of Federal intrusiveness - basically because it is a pet project of the (unelected) First Lady.

I can go with Jefferson being against it. The only person in Washington that even sniffs of Jeffersonian ideals is Paul.

Personally, I find citing men who were not familiar with internal combustion, electricity and modern communications as to how the country should be run should be done with a whole lot of salt.

[101A]

Right. You said you could, so I am asking a follow up question.

"Will your drinking buddy board members change the menu for your kid?"

No.

whatever.

how very pissy of you

Your comprehension is not as poor as I initially thought; you got the tenor of that perfectly.

do all the other kids' parents go drinking with you and the drinking buddies?

Some yes. Some no.

does your local school district get federal assistance of any kind at all for cafeteria food?

Yes. There are poor people who qualify for Federal Assistance for school lunches. There are bound to be other programs, as well.

[Blake]

Noted.

[101A]

I can go with Jefferson being against it. The only person in Washington that even sniffs of Jeffersonian ideals is Paul.

Personally, I find citing men who were not familiar with internal combustion, electricity and modern communications as to how the country should be run should be done with a whole lot of salt.

I'm not even sure, nor am I going to take the time to figure out how we got to the point that I thought someone (not sure what poster) needed a lesson on Federalism vs. Anti-Federalism. Although I suspect it was Blake, since he sees no difference between a local school board member and a Federal Bureaucrat . That is as bewildering to me as you can imagine (confirmed by the thumbs up in the post just above this one). I didn't mean to go 10th amendment, Jefferson v. Hamilton, etc....just got there...

Obviously, however, based on RG starting this thread amazed that Congress would push back on this; there are those in Washington who still fight against Federal intrusiveness.

[Blake]

No.

I didn't think so.

So you aren't really as worried about what's on the plate as you are about who should be deciding what's on the plate.

I think it's funny/stupid. lol.

Carry on.

[101A]

I didn't think so.

So you aren't really as worried about what's on the plate as you are about who should be deciding what's on the plate.

I think it's funny/stupid. lol.

Carry on.

...and this is how we get into an infinite loop....

If I don't like what's on my kids plate at school, I'll pack them a lunch!

[Blake]

...and this is how we get into an infinite loop....

If I don't like what's on my kids plate at school, I'll pack them a lunch!

that statement has nothing to do with fed v local.

I think you are on an infinite loop of nonsense.

[DarrinS]

OH MY ING GOD


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/kerry-...b_1097754.html


Anyone else thinking eating pizza <> getting anally raped ?

Does Capitalism Have to Promote Child Abuse?

If we're such a "family values"-friendly nation, why are we so willing to let our kids be abused for the sake of making money?

According to the allegations in the Penn State scandal, a pedophile was allowed to brutally assault/molest numerous young boys because no one dared to upset the very lucrative apple cart that is college sports. And, as commentator Frank DeFord speculated on NPR today, perhaps there was also some reluctance to sully our noble national pastime of oversized brutes battering each other in pursuit of a pigskin.

And now comes word that Republicans on the House Appropriations Committee have torpedoed the USDA's attempts to reduce the amount of pizza, french fries and salt that our kids consume at school. Why? Because the frozen pizza companies, the salt industry and potato growers asked them to. Really. It's that simple.

The USDA wasn't looking to ban any of these foods, but rather to increase the ratio of non-starchy vegetables and whole grains. This would be a step in the right direction, instead of using our resources to make our kids sicker and fatter. But such a shift would also make a dent in some very lucrative government contracts. So, no go.

There's more going on here than simple greed, though. Because the politicians who do the food industry's bidding are showing as much contempt for the expert opinion of nutritionists as they do towards the science of climate change. As Tom Philpott notes over at Mother Jones, the evidence that we need to feed our kids less of this stuff is solid: "Eat Your Greens, or Your Gut Gets It."

But who needs experts, anyway? Not the GOP. Their ideal nominee should evidently be a blowhard ignoramus with a moral compass that's shiftier than the San Andreas fault line, and at least as deeply cracked.

Take Herman Cain (please.) When the pizza mogul/motivational speaker/alleged serial groper was asked if he could define a man by the kind of pizza he prefers, he declared that "A manly man don't want it piled high with vegetables! He would call that a sissy pizza."

And so goes the ongoing conservative war against vegetables, served up with a side of machismo. We can't let the First Lady instill a love of broccoli in our kids! And isn't Obamacare just a sneaky plot to open the door for legislation that would crucify Americans who reject cruciferous vegetables?

I guess those retired war generals over at Mission Readiness didn't get the memo about the sissifying powers of vegetables. Why are these military experts up in arms over the USDA's caving in to Big Food? Maybe because "Obesity is the leading medical disqualifier for military service, and children get up to 40% of their daily calories during the school day?"

As Amy Dawson Taggart, Mission Readiness's director, noted "This new effort to undermine school nutrition regulations raises national security concerns."

It should also raise questions about what kind of culture turns a blind eye to kids being brutalized and turns our children into vessels for commodity crop crap because it protects the revenues of some high powered ins utions and politicians. What warped brand of capitalism have we created that permits our kids to be treated as collateral damage?

[DarrinS]

And so goes the ongoing conservative war against vegetables, served up with a side of machismo. We can't let the First Lady instill a love of broccoli in our kids!

"If I picked one favorite, favorite food, it's French fries. Okay? It's French fries. I can't stop eating them. But eat your vegetables. And exercise."
-- Mic e Obama

[Winehole23]

Anyone else thinking eating pizza <> getting anally raped ?

Hardly, but what's posed in the article seems more like analogy than equivalence.

The analogy is minimally plausible.

Penn State covered up child abuse to preserve the prestige of Penn State and Penn State athletics, to the detriment of children; Congresscritters define nutrition down to preserve subsidies for well connected businesses, despite known health risks to children. Children get hurt in both instances by official venality.

[DarrinS]

Hardly, but what's posed in the article seems more like analogy than equivalence.

The analogy is minimally plausible.

Penn State covered up child abuse to preserve the prestige of Penn State and Penn State athletics, to the detriment of children; Congresscritters define nutrition down to preserve subsidies for well connected businesses, despite known health risks to children. Children get hurt in both instances by official venality.

Terrible analogy and trivializes what happened at Penn.

[Winehole23]

Agree. I said it was logically plausible, not that it was aptly chosen or even good.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Terrible analogy and trivializes what happened at Penn.

The health impact of the nutritional value of what should cons ute ~30% of a child's daily calorie intake is trivial? If nothing else we are talking about millions of kids versus less than 100.

[LnGrrrR]

The health impact of the nutritional value of what should cons ute ~30% of a child's daily calorie intake is trivial? If nothing else we are talking about millions of kids versus less than 100.

While true, I don't think anyone has ever been traumatized by french fries on their lunch menu.

[scott]

the federal government dictating what my local school district serves its children. If I am concerned about what they are eating, I'll pack them a lunch.

How about if you want to let the school do the parenting for you, they get healthy meals. If you are concerned about your kids not getting enough food in their diet, you can pack them a lunch of McRibs and Big Gulps.

[scott]

Fat kids creates a negative externality. Maybe people like me are sick of paying the indirect costs of your kids' fat asses.

[Drachen]

How about if you want to let the school do the parenting for you, they get healthy meals. If you are concerned about your kids not getting enough food in their diet, you can pack them a lunch of McRibs and Big Gulps.

There you go right there. The schools can keep the vending machines as the token junk food dispenser (kinda like the salad bar is now)

[Creepn]

"If I picked one favorite, favorite food, it's French fries. Okay? It's French fries. I can't stop eating them. But eat your vegetables. And exercise."
-- Mic e Obama

What's so funny about this statement? There isn't any hypocrisy to it. It's honest advice. I love a juicy hamburger with crisp edged buns and will probably eat it till the day I die, but that doesn't mean you can't still eat healthy and exercise. And looking at her photo:



she seems to be in a healthy weight range for her age and height. She's showing that you can still enjoy other foods while maintaining a healthy weight and you're scoffing her for it?? Whatever man.

Besides, I bet you would still type an emoticon if she said her favorite food were carrots or something. There's no pleasing a bias asshole.

[SnakeBoy]

How about if you want to let the school do the parenting for you, they get healthy meals. If you are concerned about your kids not getting enough food in their diet, you can pack them a lunch of McRibs and Big Gulps.

That seems to make sense but it can't be right. Let me check with a couple of fat talk show hosts to find out why this is socialism.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

While true, I don't think anyone has ever been traumatized by french fries on their lunch menu.

People have been traumatized by being fat or the reaction of others to the overweight. Then there is the economic cost of poor eating habits. Its a place of learning and such eating habits are learned.

[Wild Cobra]

OK, kids pretty much are required to have one meal during school hours. Does anyone really think, that a child's metabolism, cant handle one unhealthy meal a day? What are the parents feeding them? If kids are having diet issues, it's not because of one meal.

[LnGrrrR]

People have been traumatized by being fat or the reaction of others to the overweight. Then there is the economic cost of poor eating habits. Its a place of learning and such eating habits are learned.

I'm pretty sure that being raped as a child has a better likelihood for trauma than unhealthy food in the cafeteria.

[DarrinS]

What's so funny about this statement? There isn't any hypocrisy to it. It's honest advice. I love a juicy hamburger with crisp edged buns and will probably eat it till the day I die, but that doesn't mean you can't still eat healthy and exercise. And looking at her photo:



she seems to be in a healthy weight range for her age and height. She's showing that you can still enjoy other foods while maintaining a healthy weight and you're scoffing her for it?? Whatever man.

Besides, I bet you would still type an emoticon if she said her favorite food were carrots or something. There's no pleasing a bias asshole.

You are making my point for me. It's not the evil French fries.

[RandomGuy]

OH MY ING GOD


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/kerry-...b_1097754.html


Anyone else thinking eating pizza <> getting anally raped ?

Do you have some quota of strawman attacks you have to fill on a daily basis?

The article didn't suggest they were equivalent events.

Why don't you read it again, and try to summarize the main point. If you can.

[RandomGuy]

How about if you want to let the school do the parenting for you, they get healthy meals. If you are concerned about your kids not getting enough food in their diet, you can pack them a lunch of McRibs and Big Gulps.

One of my coworkers was working with another mom at a PTO booth for a football game.

At some point, the other gal just walked off and disappeared leaving my coworker there by herself.

Some really fat kid came back for his second or third Big Red, and my coworker just looked at him, and told him, "no, you're getting water".

The kid kinda gamely looked at her and took the water instead.