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Also FWIW: Cher is more armenian than Cherokee.
You going to make fun of his kids for an encore?"If I picked one favorite, favorite food, it's French fries. Okay? It's French fries. I can't stop eating them. But eat your vegetables. And exercise."
-- Mic e Obama
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Also FWIW: Cher is more armenian than Cherokee.
Yes, I know, she is at best, 1/4 Cherokee, and probably only 1/8 or 1/16.. So? I wasn't implying she was 1/2. That's just a song. She isn't a Gypsy either. She was nude in a 1969 movie led "Chas y" though. Surprised me, I never knew she did a nude scene till I saw it.
You don't make this analogy/comparison unless you are a raving lunatic.
No, I won't read it again and summarize the main point. Hamburgers <> child abuse <> anal rape.
If we're such a "family values"-friendly nation, why are we so willing to let our kids be abused for the sake of making money?
According to the allegations in the Penn State scandal, a pedophile was allowed to brutally assault/molest numerous young boys because no one dared to upset the very lucrative apple cart that is college sports. And, as commentator Frank DeFord speculated on NPR today, perhaps there was also some reluctance to sully our noble national pastime of oversized brutes battering each other in pursuit of a pigskin.
And now comes word that Republicans on the House Appropriations Committee have torpedoed the USDA's attempts to reduce the amount of pizza, french fries and salt that our kids consume at school. Why? Because the frozen pizza companies, the salt industry and potato growers asked them to. Really. It's that simple.
The thing is that she didn't make the analogy and you missed the main point of the article.
The fact that you can't accurately summarize the main point of the essay says one of three possibilities:
1) You aren't smart enough to figure out what is obvious to everybody else.
2) You are too lazy to bother.
3) You are deliberately distorting the main point, i.e. lying.
Dumb, lazy, or lying. Which is it?
(in this instance, I think it is the "dumb" option, as there appears to be a marked confirmation bias reality filter in operation)
For someone who prides himself on being a master of "critical thinking", you can't even spot a false analogy. When you compare anal rape with french fries (and a not-so-subtle comparison between Sandusky and Republicans), you are probably not going to make a very compelling argument. Unless your audience is the likes of you, boutons, and FuzzyLumpTurd, who are probably ready to make that leap anyway. It's kind of like comparing climate change skepticism to holocaust deniers or 9/11 truthers. You are going to lose a lot of open minded people when you do that.
Do you think promoting good diet habits in school is detrimental Darrin?
Ofcourse not. They've been promoting that for decades.
I just don't think french fries are child abuse.
Earlier in this thread, someone posted a menu and it seems almost identical to what was being served 30 years ago. This is now some kind of crisis?
Sorry, you can't bait me into telling you what the main point of the essay actually is. If you are too dumb to actually glom onto it, just admit it. Yes, it involves critical thinking, and that is why you fail miserably at figuring out what the point is.
The only false analogy is the one you are attempting to make.
Lastly, I have fully differentiated between legitimate skeptics of AGW, and lying sack of deniers. Please stop trying to pretend you are an honest skeptic. You are a sophist, and a hack.
Whatever, boutons.
She didn't say she eats them 5 days a week.
I dunno Darrin, you tell me. You seem to be quite out of touch with reality:
http://aspe.hhs.gov/health/reports/child_obesity/
.Overweight and obesity in children are significant public health problems in the United States. The number of adolescents who are overweight has tripled since 1980 and the prevalence among younger children has more than doubled. According to the 1999-2002 NHANES survey, 16 percent of children age 6-19 years are overweight (see Figure 1)
And:
http://www.cdc.gov/diabetes/projects/cda2.htm
Type 2 diabetes in children and adolescents already appears to be a sizable and growing problem among U.S. children and adolescents. Better physician awareness and monitoring of the disease’s magnitude will be necessary.
Children and adolescents diagnosed with type 2 diabetes are generally between 10 and 19 years old, obese, have a strong family history for type 2 diabetes, and have insulin resistance. Generally, children and adolescents with type 2 diabetes have poor glycemic control (A1C = 10% - 12%).
Diabetes, hypertension and heart disease are real.
This is a rare moment, but I agree with DarrinS. If the two aren't supposed to have any equivalence, then what's the point of putting them back-to-back in the same article? While there might be some similiarities, I don't think they're justified enough to be viewed in the same light.
I disagree RG. She stated, "How come we're so willing to let our kids be abused?" and then gave two examples, implying that both were forms of abuse. While true, the two are on different magnitudes of abuse, and the author left the question of their comparability open.
I don't get why things have to be so extreme to folks like you.
Just because you don't want to eat processed fast foods (burgers, pizza, fries, etc) doesn't automatically mean you want to eat pure vegan bull (tofu, vegi shakes, etc)...there is a ton of room in the middle...a ton.
Snapshot one: One week into the future
Snapshot two: One decade into the future.
Who is worse off? Shrug. It's hard to say really. Of course, "diet abuse" involves quite a few degrees. Sexual abuse, not as many.
The obesity problem in kids is more of a change in exercise patterns (or lack of it) than a change in diet. Kids just don't get out and play like they used to. I can't say I blame them. if I had had interactive video games where I could blow the out of my friends from the comfort of my bedroom I probably wouldn't have been outside playing basketball and riding my bike either...
"more of a change in exercise patterns (or lack of it) than a change in diet"
bull . overweight and obesity and diseases at all ages is overwhelmingly due to crappy food and too many calories, not lack of exercise. It's extremely hard to lose weight, and maintain lean weight with exercise.
lol vegan shake mandates
And that's what I was really getting at. It's obvious to say that the healthiness of school lunches will affect more children, and may have a greater negative affect overall. But when you look at the key term "abuse", I don't think that putting junk food in schools rises anywhere near what we'd usually term "abuse".
The easy way to tell this is that we don't take away children from their homes and send their parents to jail for feeding them junk food.
Fact is, nutritional choices have declined in quality along with a decrease in activity. They're co-contributors to be sure.
sorry about your weight problem...
good response to being -slapped, go poke a cow (it's under the tail)
While the lack of exercise is obviously an enormous problem, I completely disagree that there hasn't been a major change in diet. For example, I remember in the 80s when you would walk in an ice house and find mostly 12oz cans in the soda section, and even 8 ounce bottles. It seemed like in the 90s sizes exploded and now the 20 oz was the dominant soda you'd see in the soda aisle. Today the 12oz cans are pushed in back towards the beer if they're even there at all. Fast food seemed to really explode in the 90s with the virtual death of the single-earner household. Look at how the size of fries servings has gone up; in the last 20 years it became unheard of to order the original Happy Meal size bags of fries with your meal if you were older than 10.
I also don't think it's only the video games that are keeping kids inside; the cable news fear-mongering seems to have really screwed parents up too.
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