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    Do you understand that you were hyperbolic and wrong and people here rightly jumped on you for that? Why are you determined to argue such a stupid point that is totally irrelevant?

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    lol arguing with the one person who agrees with you.

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    Do you understand that you were hyperbolic and wrong and people here rightly jumped on you for that? Why are you determined to argue such a stupid point that is totally irrelevant?
    I refuse to continue to refute this idiotic line of non-reasoning. I really don't give a what you think I said or meant. ing idiots.

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    Occupiers Occupied: Hijacking the First Amendment

    A funny thing happened to the First Amendment on its way to the public forum. According to the Supreme Court, money is now speech and corporations are now people. But when real people without money assemble to express their dissatisfaction with the political consequences of this, they're treated as public nuisances and evicted.

    Wall Street is punishing Democrats for enacting the Dodd-Frank financial reform legislation (weak as it is) by shifting its money to Republicans. The Koch brothers' petrochemical empire has financed, among many other things, candidates who will vote against environmental protection.

    When it comes to making views known, picketing is no compe ion for big money .

    http://www.readersupportednews.org/o...irst-amendment

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    They just can't camp overnight.

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    lol arguing with the one person who agrees with you.
    Its because he formed his opinion at the beginning and then started getting the facts of the situation after. He then proceeds to start calling people idiots as if his methods are not transparent.

    He still hasn't gotten your points about the hierarchy of the NY courts. It will be entertaining to watch him vacillate there as well.

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    You really should get your facts straight. Not letting them pitch tents or use generators is not infringing on their right of free speech.
    Edit: Reread the thread and understood what you were saying. I'm fine with them limiting some of the items that can go in the park, if it's backed up by legislation.
    Last edited by LnGrrrR; 11-16-2011 at 09:22 PM.

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    Peaceful, it is not.
    You somehow missed my last question to you DarrinS. What percentage of the OWS protestors are breaking the law?

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    You somehow missed my last question to you DarrinS. What percentage of the OWS protestors are breaking the law?
    If it is the law prohibiting camping, then a large percentage.

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    If it is the law prohibiting camping, then a large percentage.
    Is there a law prohibing camping?

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    They are violently camping.

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    I am officially Occupying ChumpDumper.

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    They are violently camping.






    I am going to camp the out of this grassy knoll!

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    Let's all Occupy CD people, together we can shut him down

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    Is there a law prohibing camping?
    It's real simple. Either you have a 4th grade understanding of free speech or you actually understand the subject.

    Freedom of speech is limited, and it's limitation is property rights. Only the govt can't limit speech. Private businesses can, private people can. Camping and squatting is an act of aggression, while it may not be akin to kicking punching and shooting a victim, it is an infringement on the use of your land.


    Would you allow for people to come squat on your yard for endless amounts of time?

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    I am going to camp the out of this grassy knoll!
    You're just going to for unlawful use of a scarf for sodomy purposes.

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    You're just going to for unlawful use of a scarf for sodomy purposes.


    It keeps me warm!

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    so does your stud's beefy arm around you at night got

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    It's real simple. Either you have a 4th grade understanding of free speech or you actually understand the subject.

    Freedom of speech is limited, and it's limitation is property rights. Only the govt can't limit speech. Private businesses can, private people can. Camping and squatting is an act of aggression, while it may not be akin to kicking punching and shooting a victim, it is an infringement on the use of your land.


    Would you allow for people to come squat on your yard for endless amounts of time?
    You obviously misunderstood my reply, and/or have not read my other responses.

    The judge ruled that they are able to use the park, and if the police bar them from doing so, that's contra to the ruling. (It's a bit weird that a public park is owned by a private owner, which makes this wonky.)

    If they can no longer protest in the park, then they deserve to be able to take up another public venue to share their message.

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    so have the occupy protests died down? it seems like every time i see footage it's just a few crackheads standing around

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    You obviously misunderstood my reply, and/or have not read my other responses.

    The judge ruled that they are able to use the park, and if the police bar them from doing so, that's contra to the ruling. (It's a bit weird that a public park is owned by a private owner, which makes this wonky.)

    If they can no longer protest in the park, then they deserve to be able to take up another public venue to share their message.
    You can only have public access to a parcel of land that is publicly owned. You don't have the right however to occupy it for an indefinate amount of time while blocking other peoples abil y to use it, and or commerce to conduct business.

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    Zucotti privately owned park was contractually required to allow public access 24/7.

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    Zucotti privately owned park was contractually required to allow public access 24/7.
    but not camping

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    Does your first amendment right allow you to block traffic? They are arresting people for that today.

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