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    I like it for the same reason most folks like FDA oversight of x-ray technology for medicinal purposes.

    lol one meal
    Children are growing and have metabolisms that thrive on more fat and sugar then adults. If we consider a 190 day school year, then they are only getting 17.4% of their means at school over the year.

    Do you really think that's damaging?

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    I know what you'd prefer.
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    Sometimes you're very free with it here.

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    It's not a safe or welcoming environment for you, but I personally hope you continue to feel comfortable sharing your crude, erotic ideation with the whole wide world. We need more of that.

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    Children are growing and have metabolisms that thrive on more fat and sugar then adults.


    How can you have any pudding if you don't eat your lard.
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    How can you have any pudding if you don't eat your lard.
    Is this what you meant:


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    It's not a safe or welcoming environment for you, but I personally hope you continue to feel comfortable sharing your crude, erotic ideation with the whole wide world. We need more of that.
    You'll have to excuse him, he went to pray the gay away with a flog.

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    Children are growing and have metabolisms that thrive on more fat and sugar then adults.


    Children are prone to the same cardiovascular and metabolic hazards as an adult given an adequately poor diet.

    rofl at the notion that fat and sugars are somehow better for children.

    If we consider a 190 day school year, then they are only getting 17.4% of their means at school over the year.

    Do you really think that's damaging?
    Yes. It's also a poor excuse for inaction.

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    wc with his numerical fractions of a percent bogus accuracy.

    WC never dreamed up bull he didn't believe.

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    Are you missing my point?

    One meal out of three in a day isn't going to hurt a growing child. Now if the parents are feeding their kids poorly to begin with, is only one good meal going to matter?

    Besides, my complaint is the Feds getting involved. Let this be a state and local issue.
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    Are you missing my point?
    No. It's just nonsensical.

    One meal out of three in a day isn't going to hurt a growing child. Now if the parents are feeding their kids poorly to begin with, is on;t one good meal going to matter?
    There's no "canned" answer to this, and you know that. It will definitely matter more to some than others (genetic predisposition to DM, HTN, etc.). Over a 12-15 year time frame, that's a lot of potential help or hurt from one meal. Either way, it's a bad excuse for inaction.

    Besides, my complaint is the Feds getting involved. Let this be a state and local issue.


    So you'd be ok if Oregon ins uted these policies, but it's somehow wrong if it's implemented nationwide? Your argument isn't really about the effect of individual meals is it?

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    I like it for the same reason most folks like FDA oversight of x-ray technology for medicinal purposes.
    Are parents responsible for administering x-rays? I just don't think the reasoning proves out, because it's within the realm of expertise and ultimate responsibility for parents to control what their kids eat. I think there's some tolerance for when the federal government plays "doctor", but there's understandably less when it plays "daddy".

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    Are parents responsible for administering x-rays? I just don't think the reasoning proves out, because it's within the realm of expertise and ultimate responsibility for parents to control what their kids eat. I think there's some tolerance for when the federal government plays "doctor", but there's understandably less when it plays "daddy".
    But the parents aren't controlling what their kids eat when they're at school. Packing a lunch is kind of ridiculous when kids don't have access to refrigerators. Would you want to eat a stinking piece of chicken that's been sitting out for 5 hours? Bacteria grows like on food between 40 and 140 degrees.

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    Are parents responsible for administering x-rays? I just don't think the reasoning proves out, because it's within the realm of expertise and ultimate responsibility for parents to control what their kids eat. I think there's some tolerance for when the federal government plays "doctor", but there's understandably less when it plays "daddy".
    Parents tend their sick children all the time. You can characterize everything as condescending with that standard. Dieticians and nutritionists are real occupations as well. Instead of looking at it like 'daddy' look at it like nutritionist and you can get over it. The food is unhealthy . If nothing else call for it to be shut down if you want to about any federal involvement in anything.

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    But the parents aren't controlling what their kids eat when they're at school. Packing a lunch is kind of ridiculous when kids don't have access to refrigerators. Would you want to eat a stinking piece of chicken that's been sitting out for 5 hours? Bacteria grows like on food between 40 and 140 degrees.
    I am sorry, but this is a bit of a bad argument. I (or my wife) pack my daughter's lunch every day. I ate packed lunches when I was a kid. There is nothing wrong with it. In fact, it is even better nowadays with the cooler bags and those refreezeable cold packs.

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    I am sorry, but this is a bit of a bad argument. I (or my wife) pack my daughter's lunch every day. I ate packed lunches when I was a kid. There is nothing wrong with it. In fact, it is even better nowadays with the cooler bags and those refreezeable cold packs.
    Its good to have a choice certainly, OTOH, according to the NSL themselves:

    In Fiscal Year 2010, more than 31.7 million children each day got their lunch through the National School Lunch Program
    http://www.fns.usda.gov/cnd/lunch/ab...PFactSheet.pdf

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    Either way, it's a bad excuse for inaction.



    So you'd be ok if Oregon ins uted these policies, but it's somehow wrong if it's implemented nationwide? Your argument isn't really about the effect of individual meals is it?
    If Oregon implemented the polices, I wouldn't argue like I am now. I am a firm believer in States Rights, and people who want an ever growing federal government really piss me off.

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    Its good to have a choice certainly, OTOH, according to the NSL themselves:



    http://www.fns.usda.gov/cnd/lunch/ab...PFactSheet.pdf
    I don't dispute that. I was really only responding to baseline bum. Not having a refrigerator at school is a bad excuse because they are unnecessary, and if cold is necessary, then there are ways to mitigate that as I posted. I feel like I should have read "#firstworldproblems" after his post.

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    Besides, my complaint is the Feds getting involved. Let this be a state and local issue.
    The feds aren't getting involved, they are involved and have been for decades. If you want to argue that the education system would be better off if left to the states then I would agree with you but on this topic all you are really doing is arguing against healthy meals for kids...and trying to spin it by saying unhealthy foods are actually good for kids magic metabolisms.

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    I am sorry, but this is a bit of a bad argument. I (or my wife) pack my daughter's lunch every day. I ate packed lunches when I was a kid. There is nothing wrong with it. In fact, it is even better nowadays with the cooler bags and those refreezeable cold packs.
    s food contains H-CHO we know that. bacterias ain't surviving in such a poisoned environment imho

    and yeah, don't forget to pack a pair of chopsticks with her meal

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    I don't dispute that. I was really only responding to baseline bum. Not having a refrigerator at school is a bad excuse because they are unnecessary, and if cold is necessary, then there are ways to mitigate that as I posted. I feel like I should have read "#firstworldproblems" after his post.
    I really think it limits what you can give them. You'd have to send mostly crap junk food as meat that has been sitting out for hours is kind of skanky, unless you're sending jerky, dried sausage, or something along those lines.

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    I really think it limits what you can give them. You'd have to send mostly crap junk food as meat that has been sitting out for hours is kind of skanky, unless you're sending jerky, dried sausage, or something along those lines.
    This is the gist of her what we pack for her.

    A ham and cheese/turkey and cheese/roast beef and cheese, etc. sandwich with mayo, tomato and lettuce.

    A yogurt,

    A cut up apple/orange/grapes

    Then for snack time:

    A cheese stick / bag of gold fish / or something of the sort.

    For a drink at each meal, we have those fruitables that I was talking about upstream


    If we have leftovers that she really liked or wants, we will send a small tupperware of that with her and if it is something that needs to be kept cold, we put one of those ice packs in with her lunch.

    Her "lunch box" is a "cooler bag" that is shaped like a purse that keeps the stuff pretty cool.

    Oh and to be clear, this is very similar to my lunch most of the time (minus the mayo - disgusting), so I make sure to keep switching out the meats, cheese, and fruit that we have to keep things new.

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    ..... (minus the mayo - disgusting),....
    You are dead to me.

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    You are dead to me.
    I just cant choke that disgusting down. If I go grab some burgers from somewhere and they mess up and put mayo on mine, I don't eat (I really don't feel like driving back out to correct it). I will try a small bite every once in a while, but I can never finish even one bite. Its strange because other than that I can pretty much eat anything (even if I don't like it).

    Do you per chance like the smell of vanilla? makes me wretch.

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