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  1. #101
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    Just reporting the facts on Newt.

    Smearing, slandering, lying is what Ailes, Limbaugh, and other Repug hate media do non-stop.

    That he's even in the running proves how ridiculously hopeless the Repug candidates are.

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    It's not about what I like. It's about what Newt pimped.
    Why is advocating healthcare "dirt"?

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    Why is advocating healthcare "dirt"?
    It's potentially quite damaging to his campaign.

    You really need this explained to you?

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    It's potentially quite damaging to his campaign.

    You really need this explained to you?
    Wouldn't that make him more appealing to moderates and independents?

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    Wouldn't that make him more appealing to moderates and independents?
    Is he still for the mandate?

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    Is he still for the mandate?
    If you are curious about his position on health care you can find it here...

    http://www.newt.org/solutions/healthcare

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    You can tell the progressive establishment is worried about Next...they are pulling out all the stops to smear him.
    I think progressives would love to see Newt be the GOP contender....plenty of dirt to kick around there....reassuring another 4 years of Obama thingy...what progressives are more concerned with is the unknown...as in, the unknown candidate...and the only candidate that I could think of who could jump in this late and win the nomination is Bush....not saying it's gonna happen...just what I am reading in the tea leaves.....or someone with close ties to the MIC...I really think the GOP is also shaping Petrius, but that may be way too soon...

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    I love it when you guys smugly proclaim that none of the existing candidates can beat Obama.

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    If you are curious about his position on health care you can find it here...

    http://www.newt.org/solutions/healthcare
    So he isn't for the mandate anymore now that he isn't being paid to pimp it.


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    I love it when you guys smugly proclaim that none of the existing candidates can beat Obama.
    Romney probably could.

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    As long as the Dems can keep the GOP gerrymandering in the swing states caught up in the courts till Nov 2012, it's gonna take a majority of the 12-15% of 'true' independents to win it for any GOP candidate....not saying it can't happen, but appealing to the right, who is already firmly in the GOP base isn't gonna get it done for the GOP candidate...the whole reason Newt is rising in the polls is because he hasn't pretended to be the wing-nut extremists the other candidate have been...

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    Romney probably could.
    Not sure how strongly the christian right in some swing states would show for Romney..unless Jesus Christ resurrects along with Joseph Smith...

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    Not sure how strongly the christian right in some swing states would show for Romney..unless Jesus Christ resurrects along with Joseph Smith...
    Not sure he would need them.

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    Not sure how strongly the christian right in some swing states would show for Romney..unless Jesus Christ resurrects along with Joseph Smith...
    the christian right didn't seem to help McCain/Palin

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    The far right is going to turn out for anyone not named Obama.

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    As long as the Dems can keep the GOP gerrymandering in the swing states caught up in the courts till Nov 2012, it's gonna take a majority of the 12-15% of 'true' independents to win it for any GOP candidate....not saying it can't happen, but appealing to the right, who is already firmly in the GOP base isn't gonna get it done for the GOP candidate...the whole reason Newt is rising in the polls is because he hasn't pretended to be the wing-nut extremists the other candidate have been...
    The gerrymandering cases have no effect on the presidential election.

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    Gingrich's Absurd Jobs "Plan": Replace Union Janitors with Child Laborers

    "This is something that no liberal wants to deal with," Gingrich said. "Core policies of protecting unionization and bureaucratization against children in the poorest neighborhoods, crippling them by putting them in schools that fail has done more to create income inequality in the United States than any other single policy. It is tragic what we do in the poorest neighborhoods, entrapping children in, first of all, child laws, which are truly stupid.

    "You say to somebody, you shouldn't go to work before you're what, 14, 16 years of age, fine. You're totally poor. You're in a school that is failing with a teacher that is failing. I've tried for years to have a very simple model," he said. "Most of these schools ought to get rid of the unionized janitors, have one master janitor and pay local students to take care of the school. The kids would actually do work, they would have cash, they would have pride in the schools, they'd begin the process of rising."

    He added, "You go out and talk to people, as I do, you go out and talk to people who are really successful in one generation. They all started their first job between nine and 14 years of age.

    http://www.alternet.org/newsandviews...hild_laborers/

    and w/o a HS diploma and literacy, they were excluded from Ms of jobs and probably now earning the median $29K or less, NOT in the 1%

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    The far right is going to turn out for anyone not named Obama.
    Which is why this is Romney's election to lose, since he can pull centrists/independents. If they nominate any of the wingnuts they're likely to go down in flames to an awful in bent.

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    Obama is huge disappointment, but ANY Repug would have been, and will be, MUCH WORSE

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    Gingrich's Absurd Jobs "Plan": Replace Union Janitors with Child Laborers

    "This is something that no liberal wants to deal with," Gingrich said. "Core policies of protecting unionization and bureaucratization against children in the poorest neighborhoods, crippling them by putting them in schools that fail has done more to create income inequality in the United States than any other single policy. It is tragic what we do in the poorest neighborhoods, entrapping children in, first of all, child laws, which are truly stupid.

    "You say to somebody, you shouldn't go to work before you're what, 14, 16 years of age, fine. You're totally poor. You're in a school that is failing with a teacher that is failing. I've tried for years to have a very simple model," he said. "Most of these schools ought to get rid of the unionized janitors, have one master janitor and pay local students to take care of the school. The kids would actually do work, they would have cash, they would have pride in the schools, they'd begin the process of rising."

    He added, "You go out and talk to people, as I do, you go out and talk to people who are really successful in one generation. They all started their first job between nine and 14 years of age.

    http://www.alternet.org/newsandviews...hild_laborers/

    and w/o a HS diploma and literacy, they were excluded from Ms of jobs and probably now earning the median $29K or less, NOT in the 1%
    This is a pretty good idea actually.

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    boutons, do you have to in EVERY thread?

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    In a speech Monday, Newt Gingrich, another Republican candidate for president, called the failure of the committee “good for America.”

    Anybody knows in what context Newt said this?

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    In a speech Monday, Newt Gingrich, another Republican candidate for president, called the failure of the committee “good for America.”

    Anybody knows in what context Newt said this?
    Basically that the "super committee" idea was dumb to start with and with the entrenched positions on both sides doomed to fail from the beginning.

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    Gingrich's Absurd Jobs "Plan": Replace Union Janitors with Child Laborers

    "This is something that no liberal wants to deal with," Gingrich said. "Core policies of protecting unionization and bureaucratization against children in the poorest neighborhoods, crippling them by putting them in schools that fail has done more to create income inequality in the United States than any other single policy. It is tragic what we do in the poorest neighborhoods, entrapping children in, first of all, child laws, which are truly stupid.

    "You say to somebody, you shouldn't go to work before you're what, 14, 16 years of age, fine. You're totally poor. You're in a school that is failing with a teacher that is failing. I've tried for years to have a very simple model," he said. "Most of these schools ought to get rid of the unionized janitors, have one master janitor and pay local students to take care of the school. The kids would actually do work, they would have cash, they would have pride in the schools, they'd begin the process of rising."
    Newt isn't exactly the first to propose something along these lines...and I think there is a fair amount of (confirmation bias-driven) reading between the lines of what he said vs. what the OP uses for it's headlline.

    This was much more common place until the 70's, at which time VocEd was gutted by educational progressives who envisioned a college prep role for high school rather than preparing them in anyway for employment. I say this in the macro sense as there were many states and individual ISD's who resisted this refocusing for awhile.

    I think this trend is beginning to reverse, slowly.

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    Basically that the "super committee" idea was dumb to start with and with the entrenched positions on both sides doomed to fail from the beginning.
    Thanks.

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