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    Without a HR number, I say these people. Give me something tangible I can look up, or I will consider them trolls.
    http://www.tumblr.com/protect-the-net

    https://sendwrite.com/sopa/

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    LOL...

    And will... ???

    Really now, are you saying this site can divine the future?

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    ummm, this could, you know, like really suck dude.

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    Why?

    I did find a bill reference. In the beginning it states:

    Now consider the part of the cons ution that specifically states:


    Now I will admit to not reading all the bill yet, but copyright protection is part of congress' responsibility.
    Websites get cease and desist orders all the time. Sites like the piratebay are still going to be able to function as they have been forced offshore more than once and been prosecuted already. The chronicle of FTP services getting butt ed by existing legislation is long and storied.

    You really do not deserve the freedoms that you have WC especially when you don't fight to keep them.

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    Websites get cease and desist orders all the time. Sites like the piratebay are still going to be able to function as they have been forced offshore more than once and been prosecuted already. The chronicle of FTP services getting butt ed by existing legislation is long and storied.

    You really do not deserve the freedoms that you have WC especially when you don't fight to keep them.
    If that's what you believe. I really don't care. Any idea how funny I find it that assholes like you are more committed to making fun of me than serious talks? Maybe I shouldn't say funny, but pathetic. You and others here are pathetic, for having to take a crack at me any chance you have. Must mean you know you have nothing worth while to say.

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    If that's what you believe. I really don't care. Any idea how funny I find it that assholes like you are more committed to making fun of me than serious talks? Maybe I shouldn't say funny, but pathetic. You and others here are pathetic, for having to take a crack at me any chance you have. Must mean you know you have nothing worth while to say.
    Where did I make fun of you in that post. I actually have quit going all out attack mode on you. When Darrin was lying about the source of that graph I actually respected that you provided the link. I still am more than happy to oblige when you say your boneheaded as you are wont to do but I have chilled on the unprovoked stuff.

    Do you not believe that the piratebay was forced to Myanmar or wherever the their servers are now or that companies like youtube and all manner of places routinely get and are required to honor cease and desist orders?

    I was not making fun of oyu when I said that you have to fight to keep your freedoms.

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    The signers were nine Democrats plus Rep Ron Paul (R-TX), a libertarian-leaning candidate for the GOP presidential nomination.

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    Software Makers Shun SOPA Bill
    In a reversal, Business Software Alliance now says the proposed anti-piracy law overreaches.
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    Holleyman's stance marks a reversal for BSA, which originally supported the bill. In a press statement last month, Holleyman said the bill was "a good step" to "address the problem of online piracy."
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    http://informationweek.com/news/gove...licy/232200069

    Negative backlash too much for some companies?

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    Wary Of SOPA, Reddit Users Aim To Build A New, Censorship-Free Internet
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    Mesh networks are designed to allow users to connect to one another directly instead of to a centralized Internet service provider. Universities like John Hopkins and Purdue have experimented with building mesh network technologies, and the State Department and the One Laptop Per Child program have both developed their own versions of mesh networks to either cir vent censorship in foreign regimes or, in OLPC’s case, connect users who don’t have access to Internet service providers.
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    http://www.forbes.com/sites/andygree...free-internet/

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    EU Court of Justice: Censorship in Name of Copyright Violates Fundamental Rights

    The European Court of Justice just rendered a historic decision in the Scarlet Extended case, which is crucial for the future of rights and freedoms on the Internet. The Court ruled that forcing Internet service providers to monitor and censor their users' communications violated EU law, and in particular the right to freedom of communication. At a time of all-out offensive in the war against culture sharing online, this decision suggests that censorship measures requested by the entertainment industry are disproportionate means to enforce an outdated copyright regime. Policy-makers across Europe must take this decision into account by refusing new repressive schemes, such as the Anti-Counterfeiting Trade Agreement (ACTA), and engage in a much needed reform of copyright.
    http://www.laquadrature.net/en/eu-co...amental-rights


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    Surprise! Microsoft quietly opposes SOPA copyright bill

    Microsoft has long been one of the most ardent proponents of expanding U.S. copyright law. But that enthusiasm doesn't extend to the new Stop Online Piracy Act, which its lobbyists are quietly working to alter, CNET has learned.

    It's little surprise that Web-based companies like Google, Facebook, and Twitter oppose SOPA, which is designed to make allegedly piratical Web sites virtually disappear from the Internet. They, and many civil liberties and human rights groups, worry that SOPA could jeopardize legitimate Web sites too.
    Even Garret, the Business Software Alliance's "copyright-crusading ferret," doesn't like the Stop Online Piracy Act.

    Even Garret, the Business Software Alliance's "copyright-crusading ferret," doesn't like the Stop Online Piracy Act.
    (Credit: BSA)

    But Redmond's skepticism is notable because unlike the Web companies, Microsoft earns nearly all of its revenue by licensing software--which can, of course, be pirated--and loses money on Bing and its online services division. What's even more telling is that Microsoft had enthusiastically endorsed a narrower version of the copyright bill, called Protect IP, earlier this year.

    http://news.cnet.com/8301-31921_3-57...=2547-1_3-0-20

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    If that's what you believe. I really don't care. Any idea how funny I find it that assholes like you are more committed to making fun of me than serious talks? Maybe I shouldn't say funny, but pathetic. You and others here are pathetic, for having to take a crack at me any chance you have. Must mean you know you have nothing worth while to say.
    I hope you always read what I have to say because I always display to everyone when you are wrong.

    As usual, you are wrong about this issue, which is curious this time. You have opted to side with new, over-reaching governmental regulation which explicitly goes against your conservative ideals. This particular bill is unbelievably over-reaching in its' scope; it benefits a handful of giant corporations at the expense of everyone's personal freedom.

    Your child will be breaking this proposed federal law if they record a movie of themselves playing a videogame and post it on youtube. Somehow this example is proposed by this legislation to be treated as copyright infringement (OH I MEAN STEALING lolol) and somehow costs corporations money, even though in our actual reality (planet Earth) it is free advertising and is generating them publicity and revenue.

    Any particular reason you've gone out of your way (and staunch conservative ideals) to agree with this legislation? Are you paid by anyone to spew propaganda all over this forum, or do you just do it for free?

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    Labor of love, I'd say. He is good at getting people off topic.

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