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    Controversy Koolaid_Man's Avatar
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    This deal was a payback to Dr. Buss and his good friend Kobe. Dr. Buss was for the players but he told Fish to end it and he would reward him for his loyalties with a coaching spot down the road.

    Dr Buss doesn't care either way he's gonna spend money despite the new cba. Whatever it takes to secure Dwight he will spend it.

    Kobe told Fish to cut a deal and Fish obliged his good friend. Kobe wants to be an owner someday and he wants to mow down MJ's les. He can't afford an offseason with no scoring.

    He's about 728 points off 5th all time and 1 behind MJ.

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    Lets say Buss keeps his roster at $100 million and works a Bynum & filler trade for Howard. You really think he's gonna be OK with paying $240 million a year ($100 million + $140 million in luxury tax) to keep that team intact? Dream on, welcher...

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    No. Buss will take up the rocking chair again. He won't fight Stern on this. It's a business decision. It's what Stern wants. What the owners want. Buss will get in line and he'll soldier. He'll play by the new rules. Everybody will. Even Cuban. He'll grumble under his breath, but, he'll abide. The die has been cast. The new template struck.

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    No more dynasties. lol

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    🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆 ElNono's Avatar
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    After driving Buss' bus into The Skunker, it's the least he could do, tbh...

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    Lol, acting like you know the players.

    LAL does have a TV deal in the works, their pockets are going to be very deep.

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    Controversy Koolaid_Man's Avatar
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    Lets say Buss keeps his roster at $100 million and works a Bynum & filler trade for Howard. You really think he's gonna be OK with paying $240 million a year ($100 million + $140 million in luxury tax) to keep that team intact? Dream on, welcher...
    Kobe will take less for a chance to pass MJ no doubt about it...If mgt came to him and said would you be willing to shave off 10 mill in a restructuring to bring in Dwight...it's a no brainer...you guys can only pray he doesn't do it. everyone will take less...Dwight will also take less to come to LA. with some tweaks our core will be Kobe. Dwight. and Pau....

    everyone else is expendable. Once we have those 3 in the fold...other smaller markets will suffer a worse fate. Especially the Spurs

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    🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆 ElNono's Avatar
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    Tired old bag walking away from a $30 million/season deal after this new CBA?

    what the are you smoking?

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    Kobe will take less for a chance to pass MJ no doubt about it...If mgt came to him and said would you be willing to shave off 10 mill in a restructuring to bring in Dwight...it's a no brainer...you guys can only pray he doesn't do it. everyone will take less...Dwight will also take less to come to LA. with some tweaks our core will be Kobe. Dwight. and Pau....

    everyone else is expendable. Once we have those 3 in the fold...other smaller markets will suffer a worse fate. Especially the Spurs
    The Spurs are done. You will be lucky to see anther WCF before Kobe is done also.

    I don't care about that though. How are you coping? You seem to be taking it pretty hard.

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    Controversy Koolaid_Man's Avatar
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    Tired old bag walking away from a $30 million/season deal after this new CBA?

    what the are you smoking?
    what are you talking about...silly er..no one is getting 30 mill.

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    Controversy Koolaid_Man's Avatar
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    The Spurs are done. You will be lucky to see anther WCF before Kobe is done also.

    I don't care about that though. How are you coping? You seem to be taking it pretty hard.

    all we need is 2 more before the mass hysteria kicks in...and my 8 ball says well get it in...you guys need to get over it...It's 5>4 and that is written in stone for sure....Kobe has bigger Fish to fry and MJ looks pretty tasty right about now.... with the right seasonings and grease of course

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    🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆 ElNono's Avatar
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    what are you talking about...silly er..no one is getting 30 mill.
    Kobe Bryant signed a three-year contract extension Friday worth nearly $90 million that will keep him with the Los Angeles Lakers through the 2013-14 season.

    http://sports.espn.go.com/los-angele...ory?id=5050933

    Just shut up already, you don't event know what you're talking about.

    that

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    Controversy Koolaid_Man's Avatar
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    Kobe Bryant signed a three-year contract extension Friday worth nearly $90 million that will keep him with the Los Angeles Lakers through the 2013-14 season.

    http://sports.espn.go.com/los-angele...ory?id=5050933

    Just shut up already, you don't event know what you're talking about.

    that

    doesn't change anything I said..no one will make 30 million in LA...You just come back to this post once Dwight lands in LA

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    🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆 ElNono's Avatar
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    doesn't change anything I said..no one will make 30 million in LA...You just come back to this post once Dwight lands in LA
    Kobe ain't walking away from that contract. You just come back to this post once he does.

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    Controversy Koolaid_Man's Avatar
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    Kobe ain't walking away from that contract. You just come back to this post once he does.
    I didn't say he would...but he will restructure it to play with Dwight and keep Pau...Mark my words...He'll get that money back easily...Dr Buss has plans for the kid ....

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    🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆 ElNono's Avatar
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    I didn't say he would...but he will restructure it to play with Dwight and keep Pau...Mark my words...He'll get that money back easily...Dr Buss has plans for the kid ....
    Restructure it how? He would have to extend it past 3 years... You wanna talk about tired old bags? That contract is awful as it is.

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    Controversy Koolaid_Man's Avatar
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    Restructure it how? He would have to extend it past 3 years... You wanna talk about tired old bags? That contract is awful as it is.
    It will be Kobe's call when the time comes..I'm of the opinion he believes in Legacies more than Money...so he'll sacrifice to win....

    when Kobe looks like Duncan then we can talk about tired old bags...but right now and for the next 2 yrs or so Duncan can only dream to be playing at Kobe's level...remember Kobe avg 24 last yr if I'm not mistaken...1 basket off his career pace. Duncan avg 13 & 8 so don't talk about the day when you anticipate Kobe being a TOS...talk about the guy who is actually living the tired old bag life right now...

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    🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆 ElNono's Avatar
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    Newsflash: we're talking about Kobe and he's a tired old bag... the quickest you accept that reality the less it's gonna hurt in the long run, tbh

    And it's only going downhill from here on out...

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    I didn't say he would...but he will restructure it to play with Dwight and keep Pau...Mark my words...He'll get that money back easily...Dr Buss has plans for the kid ....
    Let's say he restructures, like you said, and take $20 million instead of $30+ million.... since there's NO WAY he'll make less than Pau Gasol....

    Pau's contract will be around $19 million as proven in this ESPN article from Dec. 2009...

    http://sports.espn.go.com/los-angele...ory?id=4768800

    The confirmed value of the extension is an even $57 million over three years, according to official league contract figures obtained by ESPN.com.

    The new deal, according to a breakdown circulated Wednesday to the league's 30 teams, calls for Gasol to earn $18,714,150 in 2011-12, $19,000,000 in 2012-13 and $19,285,850 in 2013-14.

    Gasol is earning $16,452,000 this season and is scheduled to earn $17,823,000 next season in the final year of his previous contract.

    The contract, according to the league-issued specifics, also contains a trade kicker.


    Trade kicker? That means, no way he's included in a deal for Howard.... L.A. is stuck with him...

    So now we're at $49 million for 2 players with a salary cap around $60 million.

    Bynum's contract (the most likely trade bait for Howard) is $16.4 million on a team option in 12-13. No way the magic trade Howard for Bynum straight up since he's not worth that much, unless the Magic bank on him re-signing with them after 1 year at $16 million (or get the Lakers to extend him BEFORE the trade at a lower price; good luck with that).
    So lets say somehow the Lakers call in a favor like they did with Gasol and magically make it all work and Howard is signed at $15-16 million his first year in Bynum's place. Now we're at $65 million for 3 players; already $5million over the cap and only $5 million from luxury tax....

    Then you have:
    -Odom $8 million
    -World Peace $7.2 million
    -Walton at $6.1 million (or Blake at $4 million, whichever doesn't get amnestied)
    -Derek Fisher $3.4 million (player option, which you KNOW he won't pass up)

    So now we are at $87-90 million (depending on whether it's Blake or Walton still taking up cap space in 12-13) and you only have 7 players!!!!

    7 players, $90 million.... and the following year (13-14) Buss will be paying $65 million MINIMUM in luxury taxes ($3.25 for every $ over the threshold of $70 million) on those 7 players, because they are $20 million over the luxury threshold.

    But you can't play with a roster of 7, so the roster will swell to $100 million or more with a minimum of $105 million in tax penalties.

    No NBA owner is rich enough (or dumb enough) to throw away $105 MILLION a year in luxury taxes to win a championship. Like I said...

    DREAM ON, welcher....

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    O & 44!!! Now, go back &
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    I'm a trend setter.

    I set trends.

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    LOL at Kool thinking Kobe will play for less...

    He already said he won't do it, Kool.
    But let's be realiistic... Anyone truly expected Kobe to take one for the team?

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    But let's be realiistic... Anyone truly expected Kobe to take one for the team?
    Well, frankly, I didn't until he couldn't get it off in Game 7 Vs. Boston and stipulated to Artest.

    Whoops-e-daisy.

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    Who says he can restructure?

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    Controversy Koolaid_Man's Avatar
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    Let's say he restructures, like you said, and take $20 million instead of $30+ million.... since there's NO WAY he'll make less than Pau Gasol....

    Pau's contract will be around $19 million as proven in this ESPN article from Dec. 2009...

    http://sports.espn.go.com/los-angele...ory?id=4768800

    The confirmed value of the extension is an even $57 million over three years, according to official league contract figures obtained by ESPN.com.

    The new deal, according to a breakdown circulated Wednesday to the league's 30 teams, calls for Gasol to earn $18,714,150 in 2011-12, $19,000,000 in 2012-13 and $19,285,850 in 2013-14.

    Gasol is earning $16,452,000 this season and is scheduled to earn $17,823,000 next season in the final year of his previous contract.

    The contract, according to the league-issued specifics, also contains a trade kicker.


    Trade kicker? That means, no way he's included in a deal for Howard.... L.A. is stuck with him...

    So now we're at $49 million for 2 players with a salary cap around $60 million.

    Bynum's contract (the most likely trade bait for Howard) is $16.4 million on a team option in 12-13. No way the magic trade Howard for Bynum straight up since he's not worth that much, unless the Magic bank on him re-signing with them after 1 year at $16 million (or get the Lakers to extend him BEFORE the trade at a lower price; good luck with that).
    So lets say somehow the Lakers call in a favor like they did with Gasol and magically make it all work and Howard is signed at $15-16 million his first year in Bynum's place. Now we're at $65 million for 3 players; already $5million over the cap and only $5 million from luxury tax....

    Then you have:
    -Odom $8 million
    -World Peace $7.2 million
    -Walton at $6.1 million (or Blake at $4 million, whichever doesn't get amnestied)
    -Derek Fisher $3.4 million (player option, which you KNOW he won't pass up)

    So now we are at $87-90 million (depending on whether it's Blake or Walton still taking up cap space in 12-13) and you only have 7 players!!!!

    7 players, $90 million.... and the following year (13-14) Buss will be paying $65 million MINIMUM in luxury taxes ($3.25 for every $ over the threshold of $70 million) on those 7 players, because they are $20 million over the luxury threshold.

    But you can't play with a roster of 7, so the roster will swell to $100 million or more with a minimum of $105 million in tax penalties.

    No NBA owner is rich enough (or dumb enough) to throw away $105 MILLION a year in luxury taxes to win a championship. Like I said...

    DREAM ON, welcher....
    I like your passion...but all that rambling failed to capture 2 things...Bynum will be packaged along with Odom or Artest like I previously said. Walton is on record as looking to retire because of bad back whicg if that happened would allow us to save our amnesty provision. If that happens we can then use it on either Artest or Blake.

    Poof and there's the Magic...

    I'm reveling in the fact while we have options you are melting down at the prospect. Face it Dawg it's ova for the Spurs the Lakers are still the realest on the rise them other guys...


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    Don't feed the re ..he probably couldn't count to 10 using his own fingers.

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