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    Alleged Michigander ChumpDumper's Avatar
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    Who says he can restructure?

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    It's amazing how Laker fans think this is a good deal for them, this new CBA is awful for teams over the tax.

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    It's amazing how Laker fans think this is a good deal for them, this new CBA is awful for teams over the tax.
    Don't lump me in. When I'm getting royally ed and it hurts I don't brazen it out to claim otherwise.

    The new CBA is a catastrophe for us. Not only in reality, but, for what it stands for spiritually. The old ways are over. I understood that instantly. So does Buss. My fellows?...they'll brazen it out.

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    I like your passion...but all that rambling failed to capture 2 things...Bynum will be packaged along with Odom or Artest like I previously said. Walton is on record as looking to retire because of bad back whicg if that happened would allow us to save our amnesty provision. If that happens we can then use it on either Artest or Blake.

    Poof and there's the Magic...
    lol packaging Odom with Bynum for Howard. You know Howard can't get a contract starting at $24 million, right?

    What a dumbass....

    Even if other Orlando players are included to make the contracts match up, you'd still be at $74 million with a roster of Kobe, Gasol, Howard, and 1-2 Orlando fillers. You are over the tax threshold with a 4 or 5 player roster.

    You can have EVERY player outside of Gasol & Kobe fake a career ending injury or claim they need to retire for their family and you'd still end up paying luxury tax with a roster or 4 or 5 players! Kobe and Gasol have crippled the Lakers chances with their huge contracts.

    Fact the facts, welcher.... it ain't happenin' no matter how you try to spin that !

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    How long is the new CBA good for?

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    How long is the new CBA good for?
    10 years, but can be ended after year 6 by either side

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    10 years, but can be ended after year 6 by either side
    Thx.

    and I can't see this lasting the entire decade if it has the effect that people on here are hoping for.

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    Thx.

    and I can't see this lasting the entire decade if it has the effect that people on here are hoping for.
    Yeah, because it would be horrible to have a little parity in the league.
    The Heat opened Pandora's box and without this deal, players would be scrambling to form super teams in big markets to compete with Lebron/Wade/Bosh.

    While all the FA role players will be jumping on the bandwagon to ride coattails to championships in those same cities. See Eddie House, for example....

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    Who says he can restructure?
    the stupid and cono de madre koolaid_man said that.

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    Yeah, because it would be horrible to have a little parity in the league.
    The Heat opened Pandora's box and without this deal, players would be scrambling to form super teams in big markets to compete with Lebron/Wade/Bosh.

    While all the FA role players will be jumping on the bandwagon to ride coattails to championships in those same cities. See Eddie House, for example....
    There's only been one true decade of parity in the NBA, and it coincidentally was the worst one as well (70's).

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    There's only been one true decade of parity in the NBA, and it coincidentally was the worst one as well (70's).
    True, but there weren't as many teams back then either, or the global exposure we have today for the game. And there were no restraints on the big spenders, like there will be with this deal.

    Everyone will have to play by the same rules now....

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    What is incredible is the intricate and considered detail in the new CBA that comprehensively cuts the path(s) to "subterfuge" that had existed the prior quarter century of CBAs. Somebody knew whence they strategized to hammer this nightmare CBA out.

    It's a message at the point of a gun. I can only fathom Cuban bucking it.

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    I wouldn't be so quick to characterize this CBA as the be-all, end-all for parity either... even that Sith lord Adam Silver said they "hope" it will bring parity, but they don't really outright know. Fact is, sponsorship is a big part of player's income and they can't limit that. Big markets will always have the upper edge there.

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    True, but there weren't as many teams back then either, or the global exposure we have today for the game. And there were no restraints on the big spenders, like there will be with this deal.

    Everyone will have to play by the same rules now....
    I just don't see the NBA lasting like that. Imagine the Bobcats, Bucks, Jazz, Hawks, Grizzlies, and other small markets playing each other in the finals every other year. The NBA ratings would tank and we'd soon be watching games on Versus like the NHL.

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    There's also the fact of the Commish himself saying his favorite finals would be "Lakers vs Lakers"... talk about parity...

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    I just don't see the NBA lasting like that. Imagine the Bobcats, Bucks, Jazz, Hawks, Grizzlies, and other small markets playing each other in the finals every other year. The NBA ratings would tank and we'd soon be watching games on Versus like the NHL.
    It probably won't last. This is mostly to appease small market owners during a economy. But loopholes will be found.

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    The Bulls, Lakers, Celtics, Knicks, or a team stacked with all-world talent like Miami--one or many of these teams will always have to be at or near the top or the NBA won't survive.

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    even that Sith lord Adam Silver said they "hope" it will bring parity
    Then he stepped behind the curtain and shared a high five with Stern & Holt.

    They can afford to be obtuse now. Everything after the Saturday morning handshake is shaved.

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    There's also the fact of the Commish himself saying his favorite finals would be "Lakers vs Lakers"... talk about parity...
    He knows where his bread is buttered.

    It probably won't last. This is mostly to appease small market owners during a economy. But loopholes will be found.
    I agree.

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    The Bulls, Lakers, Celtics, Knicks, or a team stacked with all-world talent like Miami--one or many of these teams will always have to be at or near the op or the NBA won't survive.
    But, the owners have to "see" that. They have to suffer dramatically if there is truth to it....before they'll let the pendulum swing back.

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    I think a restructuring by Kobe is possible but definitely not "probable" ... he knows he is worth A LOT more to the Lakers than his back loaded contract ...can't say I blame him.

    But if Dwight wants to leave not much Magic can do and yes Bynum and Odom to the Magic is a no brainer you can get a good 6th man with a MLE ....

    the real question is how much in lux tax can Kobe, the local media and the Laker faithful place pressure on Buss to to go over that threshold? As a fan i would ask that he do it now and go with a young "value" team later ....but not my money and he has spent to bag two les ...

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    Basically, the 3 billion dollar swing ensures that small markets can survive so there's enough washington generals to play the big markets.

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    There's also the fact of the Commish himself saying his favorite finals would be "Lakers vs Lakers"... talk about parity...
    That was before James got Gilbert to throw down. Here I thought Gilbert was all talk & a badge.

    Uh, uh.

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    But, the owners have to "see" that. They have to suffer dramatically if there is truth to it....before they'll let the pendulum swing back.
    Assuming that it does in fact rigidly level the playing field, in 6 years they'll have seen enough

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