The night we waved goodbye to America

[MaryAnnKilledGinger]

yeah...sure. kennedy should be in prison for negligent homicide..charlie rangel..mr. ethics should be in jail as well with his violations and defense of ignorance? re . franks with his gay lover....dodd with his countrywide financed mortgage..the hypocrisy is endless with you freaking lib s.

Are you upset because your guys are just as corrupt as the liberal boneheads you've listed, or are you upset because the liberal ones were too smart to get caught and your guys couldn't even slide under the radar during eight years of a Republican political orgy?

You really shouldn't worry. I'm sure your guys will all be pardoned in a month or so.

[kwhitegocubs]

Heh, well I would say that the Republican scandals have been considerably more numerous. That doesn't excuse the Democratic scandals, either, but both sides should be arguing the issues rather than pointing out individuals worthy of scorn and attributing their ethical malaise to the whole of either side. If you go by proportion of scandal and criminal behavior, it would likely show the Republicans to be the most ethically bankrupt. So? I really don't think it is that important.

Also, Chappaquid , seriously? I mean, yeah, he should have been in jail, but that was 40 years ago. Stretching, are we?

[BradLohaus]

I was expecting a "The Night the Lights went out in Georgia" youtube parody.

[PixelPusher]

All I know is I'm getting sick of the JFK comparisons.

"Ask not what your country can do for you. Ask what you can do for your country." -- this is DEFINITELY NOT part of the Obama Doctrine.

"You see, the challenges we face will not be solved with one meeting in one night. Change will not come if we wait for some other person or some other time.

We are the ones we’ve been waiting for. We are the change that we seek."
- Barack Obama

Also, JFK was a major HAWK, had military experience, was more travelled, ... should I continue?

And how, exactly, does for calling for more troops in Afghanistan and raids against AQ in Pakistan make Obama a "dove"?

JFK was a conservative.

You're gonna have to do better than the Wild Cobra "it must be conservative if I approve of it" standard. And don't go pwning yourself with the "JFK cut taxes, ergo JFK is a conservative" spiel; besides drawing yet another favorable comparison to Obama's tax cuts, it also leaves out this tidbit:

http://www.slate.com/id/2093947

There's a final problem with portraying Kennedy as the ideological kin of Reagan and Bush on tax policy. Kennedy, it turns out, initially wanted to use government spending, not tax cuts, as the means to put dollars in people's hands. But that idea ran aground in 1962 because conservatives in Congress opposed it, while the president's aides feared that the bond market might respond to additional spending with higher rates that could offset their gains. Still, even as Kennedy accepted tax reduction as the first step along the route to growth, he never gave up his spending idea. "First, we'll have your tax cut," he told er; "then we'll have my expenditures program."

Like scripture, it seems, John F. Kennedy can be quoted for many purposes.

At best, that makes JFK a Dubya Bush "conservative"...but then you guys are always ing that Dubya (and the rest of the current GOP) wasn't a true conservative...whatever the that moving goalpost of a definition is suppose to be.

[DarrinS]

"You see, the challenges we face will not be solved with one meeting in one night. Change will not come if we wait for some other person or some other time.

We are the ones we’ve been waiting for. We are the change that we seek."
- Barack Obama


And how, exactly, does for calling for more troops in Afghanistan and raids against AQ in Pakistan make Obama a "dove"?


You're gonna have to do better than the Wild Cobra "it must be conservative if I approve of it" standard. And don't go pwning yourself with the "JFK cut taxes, ergo JFK is a conservative" spiel; besides drawing yet another favorable comparison to Obama's tax cuts, it also leaves out this tidbit:


At best, that makes JFK a Dubya Bush "conservative"...but then you guys are always ing that Dubya (and the rest of the current GOP) wasn't a true conservative...whatever the that moving goalpost of a definition is suppose to be.

JFK was more conservative than Obama OR McCain.


And JFK would've NEVER has this ad.

[implacable44]

Are you upset because your guys are just as corrupt as the liberal boneheads you've listed, or are you upset because the liberal ones were too smart to get caught and your guys couldn't even slide under the radar during eight years of a Republican political orgy?

You really shouldn't worry. I'm sure your guys will all be pardoned in a month or so.

If they didn't get caught then how come we all know about the bad things they did ?

[rr2418]

I have to say that I agree with DarrinS. All those people looked like they were in a daze, some even raising up the arms like when they're praying to God!

[TheMadHatter]

If you don't understand the appeal Obama has to America......you're probably white and you're probably from the South.

[MaNuMaNiAc]

If you don't understand the appeal Obama has to America......you're probably white and you're probably from the South.

if you don't understand how ing idiotic that statement was, then you're probably re ed...

WTF does being white have to do with anything? if there is one ing thing I dislike about Obama s is their necessity to ALWAYS make EVERYTHING about race.

[Sigmund]

yeah...sure. kennedy should be in prison for negligent homicide..charlie rangel..mr. ethics should be in jail as well with his violations and defense of ignorance? re . franks with his gay lover....dodd with his countrywide financed mortgage..the hypocrisy is endless with you freaking lib s.

Hrmmm. I see. You talk about gay lovers a lot.
Tell me, what do you associate with gay lovers? Do gay lovers arouse you?

[MaryAnnKilledGinger]

if you don't understand how ing idiotic that statement was, then you're probably re ed...

WTF does being white have to do with anything? if there is one ing thing I dislike about Obama s is their necessity to ALWAYS make EVERYTHING about race.

First, race is important. Pretending like our history doesn't exist -- pretending like racism still doesn't exist -- is just silly. If race and gender and religion weren't of any bearing in America, then we wouldn't have a string of white, Christian men as the only leaders of our country since it's conception. Obama's victory is many things (some of them may prove to be bad) but the fact that America has shed its "original sin" of slavery enough to elect a man of color as our CIC is a big deal. If you don't see that and can't celebrate it even a little then you're either a racist or you're a product of our current atmosphere where race has no bearing. The previous would be unfortunate, while the latter is a good thing.

Not everything about Obama is about race. It's just stupid to ignore the race element when it's such a huge factor.

That said, I'm sure there are lots of reasons to be against Obama that aren't about race. However, if you have the deep-seeded hatred toward him that many on this board seem to express then the statement "you're probably white and probably from the south" doesn't seem like that much of a stretch to me.

[Winehole23]

DarrinS waved goodbye to America eight days after he voted for Obama. What a patriot.

[cheguevara]

DarrinS = Angeluv?

[Agloco]

Evidently, the article has struck a nerve. The same nerve that gives Chris Mathhews a "thrill up his leg".

A bit melodramatic no?

[Winehole23]

DarrinS = Angeluv?

No chance.

AngelLuv is a nice lady. Whatever her faults may be, she is an honest, direct and self-disclosing person. She has character, she has passion, and she has an effing opinion.







I would say none of those things about Darrin.

[MannyIsGod]

[Winehole23]

Don't be bad mouthing AngelLuv now

[Winehole23]

I was expecting a "The Night the Lights went out in Georgia" youtube parody.

Not word for word, more lip-synched:

[DarrinS]

DarrinS waved goodbye to America eight days after he voted for Obama. What a patriot.

Bumping a 3 yr old thread? Really? What's the point?

Is the country really better off than it was 3 years ago?

[Winehole23]

Bumping a 3 yr old thread? Really? What's the point?

...strike a nerve?

[Winehole23]

Is the country really better off than it was 3 years ago?

no dumbass, no one said so. except you.

[boutons_deux]

"Is the country really better off than it was 3 years ago?"

so you dishonestly (surprise!) blame Obama and the Dems for the disasters they inherited from dubya, esp when Rush and Repugs want the country to fail so assholes like you and Repugs can blame it all on Obama in 2012.

[DarrinS]

...strike a nerve?

You're just a . Why not try something different and go outside today?

[Winehole23]

Strike a nerve was a good enough reason to post it in the first place, but I should go play with myself.

Tell us Darrin, what happened between election day and eight days later that changed your mind?

[Winehole23]

Or did you lie about that too?