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    Feels bad man Mr.Bottomtooth's Avatar
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    Tyson Chandler expects to leave Mavs

    By Chris Broussard and Marc Stein
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    NBA Free Agency
    Ric Bucher breaks down the top NBA free agents
    In a surprise development on the first day that NBA teams and agents could start talking about new contracts, Tyson Chandler came away convinced that his time with the Dallas Mavericks is coming to an end.

    "I really think I'm going to be on a new team come training camp," Chandler told ESPN.com in a telephone interview Wednesday night. "I'm really taking a hard look at all of my options, trying to see what best suits me."

    Chandler's doubts about the Mavericks' willingness to re-sign him to a lucrative long-term deal will be welcome news for organizations throughout the league. Chandler and Denver center Nene rank as the two most coveted unrestricted free agents in the 2011 class, but the overwhelming sentiment in many front offices has been that Chandler's return to Dallas was essentially a done deal after the 7-footer's role in helping the Mavericks win their first championship.

    Chandler, though, insisted Wednesday that such assumptions are a misnomer and admitted for the first time that he's disappointed by the club's decision not to offer him a contract extension after he was widely credited -- most notably by Mavericks star Dirk Nowitzki -- for changing the team's defensive culture after three first-round exits in the previous four years.

    Chandler maintains that staying in Dallas has been his first choice, but he expressed disappointment that the communication between the sides was minimal from the end of the NBA Finals in mid-June and the June 30 deadline for extensions. NBA front office sources list New Jersey, Golden State, Houston and Toronto as the teams chasing Chandler hardest.

    The Mavericks have likewise long maintained that bringing Chandler back is their No. 1 offseason priority. But sources with knowledge of club's thinking have told ESPN.com this month that management fears trying to match the offers Chandler gets on the open market -- even if Dallas' other free agents, such as Caron Butler and J.J. Barea are all let go -- will leave them with about $5-6 million in salary-cap space in the summer of 2012.

    That's when the Mavericks had hoped to be under the cap for the first time in the Mark Cuban era to join the free agent bidding for Dwight Howard, Chris Paul and Dallas-area native Deron Williams.

    As one of the league's oldest teams, Dallas needs the injection of youth that a perimeter scorer like Williams could provide. The Mavs' quandary, however, is that the presence of Nowitzki alone on the roster in July 2012 might not be enough to tempt the league's top free agents.

    One source close to Williams, for example, says it's unlikely that the New Jersey Nets' point guard would consider signing with the Mavericks unless he was joining both Nowitzki and Chandler. The Mavs' counter is that, with Nowitzki and Chandler on the books, they won't have enough money to sign Williams outright and would be forced to rely on striking a complicated sign-and-trade arrangement.

    Chandler, for his part, says he hopes to know where his home will be soon, even though the league announced Tuesday that teams and players can't strike written or verbal agreements before the officially scheduled start of free agency on Dec. 9.

    "I would like this to be settled by early next week," Chandler said. "I want to be in camp with my new teammates as soon as possible."

    Earlier Wednesday, Cuban told ESPNDallas.com's Jeff Caplan: "We are going through and digesting all the new rules and waiting on others. Once everything is in place we will have a far better idea on what we can and can't do. In the meanwhile, we certainly are going to be talking to everyone's agent."

    Chandler, 29, was acquired by the Mavericks in July 2010 in a deal with the Charlotte Bobcats co-headlined by Erick Dampier, but was widely billed as a consolation prize after Dampier's cap-friendly contract failed to get Dallas in the bidding for the league's marquee free agents -- Miami stars LeBron James, Dwyane Wade and Chris Bosh among them -- through various sign-and-trade offers.

    In the final year of his contract, Chandler wound up meshing with Nowitzki better than anyone anticipated, supplying length, athleticism, rim protection and a brand of vocal leadership that no big man who previously lined up alongside the eventual NBA Finals MVP had ever provided in Dallas.

    Chandler wound up playing in 74 regular season games -- after missing nearly 70 games over the previous two seasons through injury -- and finished third in the league's Defensive Player of the Year voting. In the Western Conference finals, Chandler helped Dallas to a 4-1 series win over the same Oklahoma City Thunder team that traded for him in February 2009 and then rescinded the trade one day later because of concerns about a toe injury.

    http://espn.go.com/dallas/nba/story/...-training-camp
    Last edited by Mr.Bottomtooth; 11-30-2011 at 09:15 PM.

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    Big Daddy Tyson knows his value and is only using politics to ensure that he gets the deal he deserves, nothing to see here.

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    Chandler is to Mavs' defense what Dirk is to their offense, they can't let him go imho.

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    After all those contracts for bigs Cuban gave over the years, he has to resign Chandler. They can't waste a year for a chance to get one of those free agents.

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    俺はまんこが大好きなんだよ baseline bum's Avatar
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    Cuban should be able to do pretty well with free agents, but I think you don't fix what ain't broke. It's not like that team just got a couple of lucky bounces; in fact, it was more of the opposite with Butler going down and then Brenda too. Even though they're old, breaking them up by letting Chandler walk would be nuts.

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    Big Daddy Tyson knows his value and is only using politics to ensure that he gets the deal he deserves, nothing to see here.

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    He can make changes but just not Chandler, he's almost as important as Dirk.

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    great, after their fluke championship, chances of mavs repeating are dwindling

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    🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆 ElNono's Avatar
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    He needs more time to post here

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    homie is gonna look good in sky blue

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    He ain't goin' nowhere

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    imo they have the pieces to make a sign and trade

    they got so many guys that they good even field a 2nd compe ive team

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    Chandler's offense is just as important as his defense.

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    Posturing. I can't see them not re-signing him.

    As for the desire to be players for Deron Williams (or CP3 or D12), they have an escape route. Re-sign Tyson Chandler, then next summer use the amnesty clause on Haywood or Marion and there's the cap space needed.

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    Who cares....leave Tyson...we just won it dummy....doesn't matter. This year is just bonus


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    He is worth no more than 7 mil per. That's as much as I would be willing to give him.

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    Dragon style JamStone's Avatar
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    He is worth no more than 7 mil per. That's as much as I would be willing to give him.
    Might be true, but Dallas is paying Brendan Haywood over $8 million per the next 4 seasons. If you're Chandler and his agent, I don't think you settle for $7 million with Haywood making more than you.

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    Posturing. I can't see them not re-signing him.

    As for the desire to be players for Deron Williams (or CP3 or D12), they have an escape route. Re-sign Tyson Chandler, then next summer use the amnesty clause on Haywood or Marion and there's the cap space needed.

    He is worth no more than 7 mil per. That's as much as I would be willing to give him.
    Not so sure about these. Tyson made 12.6M, I don't see him going backwards after one of his best seasons as one of the premier big men on the market. Let's assume 13M per year for Tyson.

    Mavs will be at 44M w/out Tyson next season. If he gets his 13M, that puts them at 57M. Subtract Haywood from amnesty they are at 48.5M with only 6 players. If the cap is around the same, that is 58M, so would only leave the Mavs with the ability to offer Dwight/Paul/DWill a 9.5M contract which isn't nearly enough. Obviously, if Tyson signs for less than I predict, you can just subtract some from his salary and add to the 9.5M in cap space I came up with.

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    Chandler is to Mavs' defense what Dirk is to their offense
    Except not at all.

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    Might be true, but Dallas is paying Brendan Haywood over $8 million per the next 4 seasons. If you're Chandler and his agent, I don't think you settle for $7 million with Haywood making more than you.
    of course he's not going to settle on that, but out of principle i wouldn't pay him more. Dallas was stupid as giving Haywood 8 mil per year. collective indescretionary spending by the league is a problem. give one guy what he's not worth and 10 other FAs try to match that. not that i dont expect Dallas to give him way more than what he's worth though.

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    Not so sure about these. Tyson made 12.6M, I don't see him going backwards after one of his best seasons as one of the premier big men on the market. Let's assume 13M per year for Tyson.

    Mavs will be at 44M w/out Tyson next season. If he gets his 13M, that puts them at 57M. Subtract Haywood from amnesty they are at 48.5M with only 6 players. If the cap is around the same, that is 58M, so would only leave the Mavs with the ability to offer Dwight/Paul/DWill a 9.5M contract which isn't nearly enough. Obviously, if Tyson signs for less than I predict, you can just subtract some from his salary and add to the 9.5M in cap space I came up with.
    no one's going to give Chandler what he made last year. i would bet the highest bidder will go tops 9 mil, and that might be generous. best case scenario for the league is Dallas doesn't pay him the 11-13 mil he's going to ask for, he weighs his options, and he takes the 7 mil someone other than Dallas offers him (he'll probably diss Dallas for what he thinks are lowball offers), and the price tag on his calibre of player doesn't get overvalued.

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    It's almost to the point where players are forced to chose between team wins and personal wins. Teams are not going to be able to afford a slew of high rollers to topple the other team with a slew of high rollers.

    Goddamn you Stern, you frog headed got.

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    no one's going to give Chandler what he made last year. i would bet the highest bidder will go tops 9 mil, and that might be generous. best case scenario for the league is Dallas doesn't pay him the 11-13 mil he's going to ask for, he weighs his options, and he takes the 7 mil someone other than Dallas offers him (he'll probably diss Dallas for what he thinks are lowball offers), and the price tag on his calibre of player doesn't get overvalued.
    I disagree, but we will see. I think your value is off.

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    Except not at all.
    Yep, the anchor.

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    Chandler had an absolute career year last season. He was incredible in every aspect. He was the defensive presence down low this team has needed during the entire Nowitzki era, and he was the 2nd most valuable player on their championship team. I used to hate the bas , but now I'll always love Tyson Chandler for bring a le to Dallas.

    With that said, they should tread incredibly carefully here. I would not want them outbidding other teams for Chandler. I seriously doubt he'll ever come close to producing like he did last season, I seriously doubt he'll be healthy like that ever again either.

    I want Chandler back, but for the right price. If it comes down to it, let him walk, do what you can with Haywood for one season, then throw the kitchen sink at Dwight Howard. tbh I might actually rather they do that instead.

    Chandler was great, but re-signing him is a bad idea long term if there's a chance to get Howard.

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