US used nukes on Iraq and Afghanistan?

[ChumpDumper]

no

Well, here's proof you're a fool.

Thanks for finally answering .

[ChumpDumper]

Oh , that wasn't the best part of the Busby article!

Busby appears in a video broadcast on YouTube. In it he makes a number of wild allegations. Among them is a startling conspiracy theory: that the Japanese government is deliberately spreading radioactive material from Fukushima all over Japan. The reason, he says, is that when clusters of childhood cancer start appearing in Fukushima, the parents of the victims will want to sue the Japanese government.

"But the only way that they can say that they've got high levels of cancer is to have a control group in an area that's not contaminated, for example the south of Japan. So I believe that the project to take this material and burn it all over Japan is to destroy all of Japan, to increase the cancer rate in the whole of Japan, so that there will be no control group to which you can compare these children in the Fukushima area."

He produces no evidence to support this claim. Given that no radioactive waste has been removed from Fukushima prefecture, and there are no plans to do so, it is hard to see how he could.

He then goes on to promote expensive new pills and tests which, he says, will protect people in Japan from these alleged horrors. Scientists contacted by the Guardian describe these treatments as useless and baseless.

An organisation based in Japan, calling itself the Christopher Busby Foundation for the Children of Fukushima, and linked to Busby's own enterprise in Wales called Busby Laboratories, solicits donations for its work. But the bank account it asks people to send them to is not in Japan. It is called Green Audit, and the bank is in Busby's home town of Aberystwyth. Green Audit is an environmental consultancy and research organisation founded by Busby.

When I phoned Busby to ask him some questions about these issues, his responses were less than enlightening. He began as follows: "You can off frankly."

When I asked him what his involvement was with the Christopher Busby Foundation for the Children of Fukushima, he told me: "I think you can off. I'm not going to answer your questions." When I asked whether the products being sold in his name are snakeoil, he responded: "Of course it's not snakeoil you wit".

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environmen...ar-green-party



Aren't you glad you hitched your wagon to his star, dan?

[Nbadan]

I don't self publish books full of laughably bad science:



http://www.guardian.co.uk/environmen...ar-green-party

It would take original thought to write a book and you have none....you go off on tangents like an underaged male pros ute and at a coaches convention..

....no one ever knows where your at chumpy....

[ChumpDumper]

It would take original thought to write a book and you have none....you go off on tangents like an underaged male pros ute and at a coaches convention..

....no one ever knows where your at chumpy....

I'm in Austin.

[mavs>spurs]

I'm in Austin.

Are you really?

[ChumpDumper]

Are you really?

Yes.

[mavs>spurs]

Yes.

Are you sure?

[ChumpDumper]

Are you sure?

Quite sure.

[Nbadan]

Are you really?

Nah, he's in SA......and he's usually up all night...........

[ChumpDumper]

Nah, he's in SA......and he's usually up all night...........

Which conspiracy blog told you I am in San Antonio tonight?

[Nbadan]

Which conspiracy blog told you I am in San Antonio tonight?

...you just did by playing the conspiracy card....

[ChumpDumper]

...you just did by playing the conspiracy card....

No. I am in Austin as stated earlier.

Any report saying I am currently in San Antonio is bad intel.

Why would you think I'd lie about that?

[Nbadan]

...for a long time I thought you might be the Slovenian....be now I don't think he could dumb himself down to your level..

[ChumpDumper]

...for a long time I thought you might be the Slovenian....be now I don't think he could dumb himself down to your level..

No. I am in Austin as stated earlier.

Any report saying I am currently in San Antonio is bad intel.

Why would you think I'd lie about that?

[Wild Cobra]

I think there may be a weapon we have not heard about yet that uses a type of nuclear fuel, or leaves an enriched residue....the cases of malformation and still-birth death in Iraq sure point to something besides just depleted uranium.....case still open...

I doubt we used any WMD. Still, I don't believe we ever stopped development of the neutron bomb either. I'll bet we have working units. Does this fit you conspiracy minded views Dan?

[SA210]

Leuren Moret is an independent geoscientist
Dr. Christopher Busby biomedical studies professor at the University of Ulster
Chumpy...internet troll...

[MannyIsGod]

@ this thread. OP is hilarious.

[RandomGuy]

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/212827.html

'US used nukes on Iraq, Afghanistan'
Tue Nov 29, 2011 3:55PM GMT
Reddit
The United States has used tactical nuclear weapons in its military campaign against Iraq and Afghanistan, a Middle East expert tells Press TV.


“Tactical nuclear weapons were used, at least one in Iraq and several were used in Afghanistan --in the Tora Bora mountains,” Peter Eyre, a Middle East consultant, said.

Eyre pointed out that the atomic bomb dropped on Afghanistan's Tora Bora region was so powerful that it actually created an earthquake there.

The analyst went on to say that the use of such lethal weapons by US military, which is a gross violation of the Geneva Convention, has been sanctioned by the US presidents; thus they should be prosecuted for war crimes.

"In America, the ultimate commander in chief is the president," Eyre said, adding that the President has the final say in using such weapons.

The US is the first country in the world to develop nuclear weapons and the only one to use them.

Thousands of people were killed in August 1945, when the US bombers dropped atomic bombs on Japan's Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

The US invaded Afghanistan in 2001 under the pretext of toppling the Taliban regime, claiming that the militants have refused to hand over Osama bin Laden.

The US also invaded Iraq in 2003 under the excuse of destroying alleged weapons of mass destruction (WMD) belonging to former dictator Saddam Hussein.

Many civilians, including women and children, have been killed as a result of these wars.

The US-led war in Afghanistan, with civilian and military casualties at record highs, has become the longest war in the US history.

ROFL Iranian official media

ROFL Peter "Itz da jews cuz I'm a middle east consultant" Eyre



Going to deny the Holocaust for an encore?

[Agloco]

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/212827.html

'US used nukes on Iraq, Afghanistan'
Tue Nov 29, 2011 3:55PM GMT
Reddit
The United States has used tactical nuclear weapons in its military campaign against Iraq and Afghanistan, a Middle East expert tells Press TV.


“Tactical nuclear weapons were used, at least one in Iraq and several were used in Afghanistan --in the Tora Bora mountains,” Peter Eyre, a Middle East consultant, said.

Eyre pointed out that the atomic bomb dropped on Afghanistan's Tora Bora region was so powerful that it actually created an earthquake there.

The analyst went on to say that the use of such lethal weapons by US military, which is a gross violation of the Geneva Convention, has been sanctioned by the US presidents; thus they should be prosecuted for war crimes.

"In America, the ultimate commander in chief is the president," Eyre said, adding that the President has the final say in using such weapons.

The US is the first country in the world to develop nuclear weapons and the only one to use them.

Thousands of people were killed in August 1945, when the US bombers dropped atomic bombs on Japan's Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

The US invaded Afghanistan in 2001 under the pretext of toppling the Taliban regime, claiming that the militants have refused to hand over Osama bin Laden.

The US also invaded Iraq in 2003 under the excuse of destroying alleged weapons of mass destruction (WMD) belonging to former dictator Saddam Hussein.

Many civilians, including women and children, have been killed as a result of these wars.

The US-led war in Afghanistan, with civilian and military casualties at record highs, has become the longest war in the US history.

Anecdotal but: I've found no evidence of this on the ground.

[RandomGuy]

Here's the thing about that:

Agloco has noted that we are able to track insanely amounts of radiation, and isotopes.

If this were true, there would be some ready at hand, easy evidence of it.

Y.H., do you have any cooroberrating evidence?

[RandomGuy]

I would also point out that we have conventional, non-nuclear munitions that easily rival small nuclear weapons.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MOAB

GBU-43/B Massive Ordnance Air Blast bomb

Although its effect has often been compared to that of a nuclear weapon, it is only about one thousandth the power of Little Boy, the atomic bomb used against Hiroshima. The MOAB's blast is equivalent to around 11 tons of TNT, whereas the Hiroshima blast was equivalent to 15,000 tons of TNT; modern nuclear missiles are far more powerful than the atomic bomb used against Hiroshima. However, the MOAB bomb's yield is comparable to the smallest of nuclear devices, such as the M-388 Davy Crockett.

Easy to tell the difference.
Tactical nukes = radiation
MOAB or similar = no radiation

It should be noted that the Russians, being Russians, claim to have made one even bigger. I would not be surprised if there were some classified weapons in the US arsenal with even larger yields.

Lastly, if we can do the same thing without nukes, why bother WITH nukes?

Especially when nutjobs are just waiting to pounce on that?

GMAFB.

[Agloco]

On Friday, 28 October 2011, it was my honor to host Leuren Moret and Christopher Busby as my guests on “The Real Deal”, an internet radio program broadcast on M/W/F from 5-7 PM/CT over revereradio.net. Leuren Moret is an independent geoscientist who has done expert studies on the Fukushima disaster, radiation problems around the world including depleted uranium. Dr. Christopher Busby is a visiting biomedical studies professor at the University of Ulster and is the co-author of reports about the effects of depleted uranium in Iraq especially in relation to Fallujah. What Busby found much to his surprise was not DU but enriched uranium instead.

The interview was extraordinary on many counts. During the first hour, Leuren reported on the latest research about Fukushima and laid out a background for understanding the issues that she and Busby and I would discuss during the second hour. It has become apparent from Busby’s research that a new kind of bomb–which seems to be a neutron bomb–has been used in Fallujah, but also in other areas, including Lebanon. As though that discovery were not astonishing enough, listening to him, it struck me that this same weapon may have been used to destroy the Twin Towers, an explanation for which has remained elusive and where alternative theories about the possible use of mini-nukes, directed energy weaponry, and other causal mechanisms have been widely discussed–or, in some cases, actually suppressed.

Seriously Dan? You need a nuclear weapons design/detection primer. So do the good Drs. Leuren and Busby for that matter.

It's not painful, I promise.

[TeyshaBlue]

Another dan faceplant...nothing new.

[hater]

Bush

[CosmicCowboy]

Was there a category for "dumbest thread of the year" in the awards thread?