Tyson Chandler expecting to leave Dallas

[ALVAREZ6]

lol watch Tyson walk, Nene sign with the Mavs, and the team rings again
lol stupid tyson chicken chandler

[rayjayjohnson]

lol watch jason terry meltdown artest circa-2004.
lol dirk blows out both knees

[Jacob1983]

If the Mavs lose Chandler, it will be tough to deal with that. He is the best center the Mavs have ever had. It would be a huge shame to let him go.

[daspurs]

He's got a condo up in biscayne.

[Killakobe81]

Thou, still s shocked from all the agony prior to this past June.

You never get over it. I still feel the catastrophe of '84 to this very day. I feel that more severely than I do the victories. I'll take '84 to the grave. Watching those Celtics humps waving those white towels and looking down toward the Laker bench. I had such hatred, I wanted to kill. Then when '85 came and we broke thru I figured the pain and wounds would go away and heal. Nope.

Amen, brother. 1984 was like the hottest girl on campus telling you she wanted you, taking you back to her room telling you that she was ready for you ...then at the last minute saying...she can't do this ...she still loves her HS sweet-heart ...so close to heaven ...but yet we were left with blue-balls and painful memories of "what could have been" ...seeing Maxwell wave that white towell is one of te most painful memories of my youth ...

and that missed opportunity with the bddest chick from freshman orientation still haunts me years later as well ...

And banging her cute dorm-mate a week later NEVER replaces the fact that you missed out on possibly the best piece of ass you ever had ...

[Pelicans78]

I was not surprised by Chandlers' play. I've seen flashes of it before.

His season in 2007-2008 for the Hornets was better than the season he had last year. He was the 2nd best player after CP3 that year and his injury in Game 5 against the Spurs took two years to heal. He's worth at least 10 million a season.

[SenorSpur]

Also, one INCREDIBLY HUGE factor I didn't even mention: Dwight could very well be traded this season. It could be via Extend and Trade (not all that likely IMO), and even if it's just a straight trade, if it's to a team he likes you have to worry about them being able to extend him for more money than the Mavs can offer.

So I was only explaining how difficult it would be just by looking at the Mavs roster/financial situation and there is an entire whole other side to the risk of waiting as I pointed out above.

So to clarify: Don't sign Tyson this season, don't compete for a le, have a slim chance at signing Dwight on the chance he actually makes it to free agency.

I agree. I truly believe the Mavs and Cuban have turned away from Chandler because they feel like they have a realistic shot at Dwight Howard.

[Killakobe81]

I don't think Chandler is crazy to expect some respect, here. Mavs were considered soft. Before he went there. He was. A big part of changing the culture. Sure u don't just pay him without looking at big picture but Dirk and the city deserve a chance to defend that le as the offensive and defensive leaders

[DPG21920]

I hope the FO thinks like Mono. I really do. I hope they have blind optimism and severely derail their chance at repeating. Like I said, unless they replace Tyson this year, it's a massive low % gamble.

I remember when Mono flipped out bc they got Tyson for Damps contract

[stretch]

Well, I really hope the Mavs don't resign Tyson. I can't see them doing that, at least without signing someone they might like better (Nene?). I'll take a Mavs team that is weakened with a slim chance at landing some FA the year after all day.

Now THIS is something I've been intrigued by the entire time.

Getting Nene instead of Tyson may cost the team some defense and rebounding (although Nene isn't just a complete slouch, he can hold his own fine), but I think an argument can be made that their offense would improve more than their defense would suffer. Dirk would finally have a legit low-post scorer at his side. Being able to have two big-men playing high-low is something this league hasn't seen very often and would most likely have an incredibly difficult time defending. Nene can also play backup PF, giving Haywood more available minutes, making him happier and hopefully giving more effort and playing like the Center he was when he first got to Dallas.

I would be happy if the Mavs got either guy.

[DPG21920]

I agree Phillip. What they shouldn't do is what Mono said IMO.

[adrienne]

I'm prematurely grieving and, at the moment, just assume that we'll get no one and do nothing and Dirk will just retire in 2 years as a way to escape mediocrity and despair. Who knew I'd ever be depressed over Tyson Chandler?

I'll get over it. Just a let down after being so excited for this season to finally start.

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I agree Phillip. What they shouldn't do is what Mono said IMO.

I wouldn't purposely let Chandler walk, or miss out on getting a guy like Nene, but if they simply are unable to sign them, it's not the end of the world, it just starts the process of rebuilding a little sooner. They will have more minutes to give to younger guys like Roddy, DoJo, and Mahinmi to go ahead and develop them for the future, and will have cap space to try to be players in 2012 (as Kidd and Terry's contracts both come off the books as well).

Even if they were unsuccessful players in 2012, at least we can be happy knowing that they got a championship, and got revenge on the Heat, redemption for their previous failures, and finally got the best of the Lakers all in the process.

I kinda wish they hadn't traded Jordan Hamilton for Rudy though, considering Rudy will probably just bolt after this year. If they don't get Tyson/Nene this season, that trade was completely useless, and they virtually gave away a guy with nice potential. If they can keep Tyson or get Nene though, getting Fernandez IMO gave them a better shot than people realize at repeating as he fills several needs that the Mavs had, as you pointed out in another thread.

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And Phillip, I hate that guy. If I ever see him again, I will beat the out of him.

[DPG21920]

I wouldn't purposely let Chandler walk, or miss out on getting a guy like Nene, but if they simply are unable to sign them, it's not the end of the world, it just starts the process of rebuilding a little sooner. They will have more minutes to give to younger guys like Roddy, DoJo, and Mahinmi to go ahead and develop them for the future, and will have cap space to try to be players in 2012 (as Kidd and Terry's contracts both come off the books as well).

Even if they were unsuccessful players in 2012, at least we can be happy knowing that they got a championship, and got revenge on the Heat, redemption for their previous failures, and finally got the best of the Lakers all in the process.

I kinda wish they hadn't traded Jordan Hamilton for Rudy though, considering Rudy will probably just bolt after this year. If they don't get Tyson/Nene this season, that trade was completely useless, and they virtually gave away a guy with nice potential. If they can keep Tyson or get Nene though, getting Fernandez IMO gave them a better shot than people realize at repeating as he fills several needs that the Mavs had, as you pointed out in another thread.

I agree with all of this.

[stretch]

stfu shortstack

[DPG21920]

Ok.

[mavs>spurs]

And Phillip, I hate that guy. If I ever see him again, I will beat the out of him.

Me too scrah, shoot em damn pickle breaths on sight!

[Monostradamus]

I hope the FO thinks like Mono. I really do. I hope they have blind optimism and severely derail their chance at repeating.

how is admitting "there's probably no way they repeat even with Chandler" in any way, shape, or form blind optimism? please explain that. And how is saying "Take a shot at getting Dwight Howard" blind optimism as well?

All I said was they probably can't win another le with Chandler, and with one le in the bag, there's no reason why they can't sacrifice this season in an attempt to hit a home run next season. I'm not saying it's a done deal, I'm not offering photoshopped pics of Dwight Howard in a Mavs uniform, I'm just saying if they have a shot, they should go for it. Doesn't that make sense to you, or is your brain that dumb that you can't even get that?

[DPG21920]

Mono, just stop. You look like an idiot right now.

[Monostradamus]

[DPG21920]

DBdotcom

[JamStone]

If Dallas has any chance of landing one of those big FAs next summer, it's clear one thing has to happen. One of the Mavs young players has to become a star this upcoming season. Whether it's Beabois or Rudy Fernandez or Dominique Jones, one of them has to play the part of an up-and-coming legitimate star. Dirk's 33 years old. It's similar to why CP3 has expressed he wouldn't want to sign longterm with the Celtics. Dirk at his age isn't enough to get one of those FAs to sign on for 5 years knowing the Mavs' window is closing too.

[Monostradamus]

DBdotcom

DPG wrong bout dem Mavs

"take it from me, I'm a Spurs fan so I know what championship basketball is all about. the Mavs won't win! their defense sucks no wait's it's pretty good no wait it's solid hey don't twist my words!"

[DPG21920]

Ok.