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Gotta save Bonner for Howard.
People are going to think I'm insane, but here's my rationale:
*the Spurs are going to have to rebuild soon, and Timmy is likely to retire after this season, so we are likely to start rebuilding in 2012-13 (unless he finds a new lease on life and decides to play another two years on a DRob-type contract).
*TP is not the cornerstone for a re-building project - he's done great things for this team, but he'd be unhappy here while rebuilding, and he's also a 29yo PG who relies on his speed to be effective (how much longer do you think his quickness will last?).
* if we are to make one more run at the le, it's pretty clear that the current formula is not going to get us there, but CP3 gives the team a completely different look with his range and half court savvy. He also gives us an excellent small perimeter defender.
*CP3 would probably be a one-year hire, although he might bond with the organisation and decide to stay (unlikely). If he doesn't we clear his 17mil and Timmy's 21mil off the cap, and Manu is a very enticing trade piece in the final year of his contract, so we'd immediately be way under the and in full rebuilding mode, which is a better way of going about it than half measures.
Parker+Bonner for CP3 - I'd do it for one more shot at a le before the rebuild. Would you?
Gotta save Bonner for Howard.
only if we somehow sucker the hornets into taking RJ
tbh, if we were to shop Tony, I much rather do TP+Bonner+Dice for Nash+Gortat.
Works salary-wise, we're renting Nash just for one season, which would work to clear space for the rebuild afterwards. Gortat is a strong guy down the middle to help Tim, plus we get to eject Bonner.
Suns get a solid PG on a reasonable deal, and some immediate savings on the Dice contract.
I'm assuming RJ is going to Denver for Nene!
Need to give Hornets something. TP makes sense.
That's the other deal I'd like to see for TP. Love to get our hands on Gortat, although the downside is Nash's horrible defence.
The question isnt whether you, any of us, or the Spurs org would make that deal its whether the Hornets would. Pretty sure theyre expecting more than just a Top 10 PG and ginger for one of the best players in the league.
I like the Nash and Gortat trade. The Spurs ae a jump shooting team now and nash can set them up with screen and pop plays and he can also drive and dish like TP. Manu then will probably have to go back to supplementing the secondaries with Blair and Gortat.
Paul would not sign a contract extension with SA. The new CBA did nothing to keep star players from moving to big market teams. He will be a Knick at some point.
I like your reasoning, but there are reports that the Hornets weren't interested in Rondo. I doubt that they would be interested in Tony. Looks like they want some combination of good players on rookie contracts, draft picks, and cap space.
Manu will never see the all again with CP3. Parker hater/Manu lover should be careful with what they wish for.
There will be a time where trading Parker will be the right move to do for both Spurs and Parker. However, this time will be in a couple of years. Right now, keeping Parker is a no-brainer for Spurs.
Actually there is a realistic trade to do for with the Hornets but it's Ariza+Okafor for RJ+Dice+Blair.
Would kill for that.
Trading a point guard who just proved that he wants to stay here for one who absolutely doesn't isn't really a good idea. It's not like Paul is more durable or a better teammate than Parker either. Not sure what the Spurs have to try to entice Paul to re-sign with them at this point. Good luck enticing him with the potential of Leonard and Splitter.
My first thought: Not going to happen, ever.
Which leads to my second thought: Don't waste time thinking about it.
CP3's agent wants to make a LeBron-esque type of big deal and move Paul to NY with Melo and Stat. It might not happen, but if CP is saying "NYC", he might settle for L.A., Boston, or Chicago... he won't settle for "SA".
Yeah, from that standpoint, he's already in SA.
I am not sure about that. I think keeping at least one near All-Star player is necessary to attract free agents, to lead the youngsters... to incarnate a continuity.
I believe Parker is a good rebuilding piece (not conerstone).
- He probably still have at least 2/3 years of near all star level in him... and then will become at least a nice expiring contract. Actually it does not really matter how good he is... rebuilding is a long process.
- In rebuilding mode, his contract is not a problem. I don't expect the Spurs to gather the new 3 Amigos. So, if we rebuild through draft picks, we will have to give some real money to someone. Why not Parker?
- He is probably not good enough to lead us to the playoffs alone... we can keep him and hope being lucky with the lottery
I don't think Paul would make us contenders. So I don't see the point having him for one year.
Paul and Gray for Jefferson and Parker. Thoughts?
The NBA Hornets are gonna send CP3 to the Lakers
Like Mel said, if the Hornets supposedly aren't interested in Rondo, then there's no reason to think they would be in Parker. But even if they were and value wise, the Spurs could give them the requisite assets in return (and they might be able to if they were interested in Parker), Paul wouldn't sign an extension. If he wouldn't sign an extension with the Celtics, then there's no reason to think he would with the Spurs.
EDIT... nevermind.
That would be luxury tax for two more years, unless Duncan takes a huge pay cut or retires after this season. Pop would love the move, but Holt probably wouldn't.Manu will never see the all again with CP3. Parker hater/Manu lover should be careful with what they wish for.
There will be a time where trading Parker will be the right move to do for both Spurs and Parker. However, this time will be in a couple of years. Right now, keeping Parker is a no-brainer for Spurs.
Actually there is a realistic trade to do for with the Hornets but it's Ariza+Okafor for RJ+Dice+Blair.
However, it does make sense for both sides, assuming that the Hornets are trying to get young players, picks, and cap space to start the rebuild soon.
Please re-read OP. I figure CP3 would be a one year rental, then we're into full rebuild mode.
Fair enough. Didn't know they'd turned down Rondo.
I'm not a TP hater... just thought this trade might give us a shot this year while also clearing more salary for the rebuild.Manu will never see the all again with CP3. Parker hater/Manu lover should be careful with what they wish for.
There will be a time where trading Parker will be the right move to do for both Spurs and Parker. However, this time will be in a couple of years. Right now, keeping Parker is a no-brainer for Spurs.
Actually there is a realistic trade to do for with the Hornets but it's Ariza+Okafor for RJ+Dice+Blair.
As for the other trade, I'd pull the trigger on that, then we can amnesty Bonner instead of RJ!
TP said the Spurs are unlikely to win a trophy any more, but he did sign a lengthy contract. Strange mixed messages.
As I said in the OP, Paul would likely be a one-year hire then rebuilding time. I don't think TP will be happy in rebuild mode. He wants to win (to his credit).
Awwww, go on!
Given the state of Tim's body, his at ude to life, and the 1200 games he's played, I'll be surprised if he wants to play on after this season.
I believe there was a caveat to that first statement, regarding an if-we-don't type scenario.
Nice try, but theres just no way it would ever happen.....
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