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Can that really happen?
If so, it would be so roflmao to see it actually happen.
Look at LSU and Alabama's body of work.
LSU has had a tougher schedule.
LSU beat Alabama on the road.
LSU also won their conference, while Alabama didn't even win the division.
Let's say LSU and Alabama meet in the BCS NC Game. Alabama wins by a narrow 1-2 points.
Who is the true National Champion?
Now obviously, Bama would be considered the champion, but lets say the computer rankings still consider LSU ahead of Bama due to the full body of work. LSU could make an argument for there to be a split-national champion again, or even that they are the true outright champions (even though it would look lame considering they lost the big game)
Shouldn't this be another cause for concern when it comes to the BCS?
In other words... PLAYOFF SYSTEM. I say use a combo of AP and computer rankings through the regular season to determine who gets into the playoffs and their seeding. If I recall, having a 32 team playoff would result in just as many playoff games as bowl games, and you can still keep the sponsor names for each playoff game (ex. Fiesta Bowl Semi-final Game or something like that) so they can still make that money.
Last edited by stretch; 12-01-2011 at 11:59 AM.
Can that really happen?
If so, it would be so roflmao to see it actually happen.
I don't know how their systems are actually set up, but I wouldn't be surpised if that was possible. Although if it happened, they would probably do everything possible to keep it from going public, just to save any further possible controversy of the BCS.
tbh not sure if the playoff system would necessarily solve the theory you just presented.
you could make a case that the 07 Patriots should've been split Super Bowl winners also
let me put it this way
let's say stretch and philip are both 10-0 going into their grappling match. philip wins in 15 rounds, and had the tougher opponents leading up to the game. But then let's say they meet again in the "National Grappling Championship" and stretch wins this one in 15 rounds even though he had cupcake opponents his whole career.
who's really the champion here?
I don't think there are BCS standings after the bowls.
The standings are only (well not only) used to determine the #1 & #2 teams to play in the national championship game. I don't think there is a BCS standings in January after all of the bowls have been played. There is the final AP & Coaches Poll after the bowls are played but not a BCS standings release, as the BCS considers the winner of the national championship game the undisputed champion.
lol grappling
how so? there is no polls in effect as soon as the playoffs start, only for teams to get into the playoffs, and how they are seeded.
LSU hasn't won their conference
LSU, apparently, would be the AP National Champs if they beat Georgia
imho there's nothing wrong with your playoff system i was just playing devil's advocate.
At the same time, if Alabama wins the NC game, they should be crowned champions no matter what even if LSU is somehow ranked ahead of them. (If that can really happen it's re ed)
Which is exactly why they should not be allowed to play each other again. Its such a failure of a system.
Per usual, everyone gets in a tizzy with a few weeks left.. worrying about who will play for the le. When it almost always gets sorted out; stakes raise, rivalry games, etc.. teams lose. The cream rises to the top. However, that does not seem to be the case this time around, as it appears almost certain LSU and 'Bama will meet again. A shame.
how would a playoffs help? what, one more game for LSU to slip up in, 2 more? so if LSU loses to some other team and Bama wins, that's ok?
have we learned nothing from the NFL? from 18-1, from the 10-6 and even 9-7 teams getting to the SB? in the NFL, the best team wins the SB probably less than half the time, and often isn't even in the SB, how often does that happen in the BCS?
LSU is clearly the best team, the BCS allows them to validate it with just one more victory, a playoffs would make them play 2 or 3 more games, and still wouldn't actually crown LSU even if they lost to Bama, which is probably what should happen if that happened
The computer's only a small part of the calculation. If the voters put LSU number one then it would happen. The weakness in polls all these years is that losing late counts more than losing early, so voters will reflexively put whoever wins the game at number one.
of OK St wins, I hope the voters put them at 2
OSU lost to Iowa St.
Alabama lost to LSU
Bama had their chance at home to beat LSU. No reason they should get a second chance.
I think it's hilarious that Southern Miss cost itself about $1 million by winning its conference championship.
the BCS.
they both lost one game, and OK st had the tougher schedule. I'll take schedule over single game
OSU beat 4 current top 25 teams
Alabama beat 2
So you are saying the nfl would be better off with a bcs system.how would a playoffs help? what, one more game for LSU to slip up in, 2 more? so if LSU loses to some other team and Bama wins, that's ok?
have we learned nothing from the NFL? from 18-1, from the 10-6 and even 9-7 teams getting to the SB? in the NFL, the best team wins the SB probably less than half the time, and often isn't even in the SB, how often does that happen in the BCS?
LSU is clearly the best team, the BCS allows them to validate it with just one more victory, a playoffs would make them play 2 or 3 more games, and still wouldn't actually crown LSU even if they lost to Bama, which is probably what should happen if that happened
K
& them beatin' Houston like that went over like a fart in church with Media.
tee, hee.
nfl don't need a BCS, there's 16 games and only 32 teams, vs. cfb's 12 games and 120+ teams
SOS in the NFL is relatively equal across teams, NFL just needs to cut the amount of playoff teams in half
not only this, but i would argue a different angle. considering OSU beat 4 top 25 teams and their only loss is to a an unranked iowa state, i am more likely to forgive them than Alabama losing to LSU at home.
1) easy to overlook an unranked opponent and slip up; not bringing the 'A' game
2) difficult to overlook a huge match up (LSU v. Alabama) and much more likely to get your 'A' game
..then factor in the plane crash news before the game and everything surrounding. i forgive that.
As usual, the voters are the reason the system sucks.
College football don't need a BCS either if some of those 120+ teams can go undefeated and not have a shot at the le.
If a wildcard wins the Super Bowl, do you think they really don't deserve the le?SOS in the NFL is relatively equal across teams, NFL just needs to cut the amount of playoff teams in half
that's happened once right? and now with all the bigger conferences and conference championship games, doesn't look like that's going to be a problemI don't see how anyone could, unless you don't believe that the purpose of the playoffs (and season) is to give the le to the best team.
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