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    I would agree if we can make it such that drug abuse does not affect others.
    Alcohol abuse affects others, and prohibition did jack to limit that

    Tobacco abuse affects how expensive the healthcare of people who don't puff smoke down their throat is, but having a big ass surgeon general's warning on every cigarette box doesn't stop 20% of the population from smoking.

    Keeping drugs illegal does jack to limit its use and its affect on other people.

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    Weed makes you act re ed. I've done it before. Yes it's fun but I worry about the long term effects. Carcinogens being the biggest negative about it.
    wow you are such a little pussy. I bet you had no friends in high school


    weed is bad for you

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    the LEGAL FDA-approved drugs do wonders:

    "As it turns out, the very people and medications we turn to for protection against this onslaught [of current health problems] may be doing more harm than good. The Journal of the American Medical Association reported that there are more than 2 million drug "reactions" annually in the U.S., and more than 100,000 of those reactions are fatal. This makes prescription drugs the fourth leading cause of death in America. But the reality is actually much worse. These numbers do not include:

    Patients who are given the wrong drugs or who are given those drugs at the wrong dosage or in the wrong combination.

    Patients who have fatal reactions to the drugs, but whose death is mistakenly (or deliberately) attributed to other causes. A patient is prescribed a painkiller and dies from a heart attack. How is that recorded on the death certificate—reaction to the drug or heart attack? Both are true, but only one is the truth."

    "Add these cir stances to the aforementioned “official” count and you find that deaths from adverse reactions to drugs may number as high as 700,000 a year. Actually, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) estimates that only 1 percent of all adverse reactions are reported, which, if true, would make 700,000 an incredibly conservative estimate. Now, combine those 700,000 deaths with the number of people who die from misdiagnosis, inappropriate treatment, secondary infections received in hospitals, or just plain physician error, and the startling fact you’re left with is that modern medicine, despite all the great things it may have accomplished, is arguably the single leading cause of death in the United States."

    From a newsletter from JonBarron.org.

    How many deaths from marijuana per year?

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    Alcohol abuse affects others, and prohibition did jack to limit that

    Tobacco abuse affects how expensive the healthcare of people who don't puff smoke down their throat is, but having a big ass surgeon general's warning on every cigarette box doesn't stop 20% of the population from smoking.

    Keeping drugs illegal does jack to limit its use and its affect on other people.
    I'm not sure I agree with the last claim. You cited certain countries where it hasn't been much of a problem. I'll take your word for it. I can tell you from firsthand experience though that the opposite can happen. Went to Ethiopia this summer, and in theres a legalized psychactive drug there called chat that is legal. Its highly addictive and it has made its way into schools. Its benefited local economies but at a very high cost. People walk around with bags of the stuff, getting high and talking to themselves and imaginary friends. It has effectively made a lot of people apathetic and useless to society. I think it's one of those things I would like to test for a few years. Legalize drugs and see what happens. I don't think anyone knows what would happen but in our immediate-gratification society where people can't even monitor what they eat, I think it would cause a lot of damage. Especially to anassumming young people who may want to naively "try it once" and turn into addicts.

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    The problem is people want to "try it once" even more after you tell them not to. It's human nature.

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    I'm not sure I agree with the last claim. You cited certain countries where it hasn't been much of a problem. I'll take your word for it. I can tell you from firsthand experience though that the opposite can happen. Went to Ethiopia this summer, and in theres a legalized psychactive drug there called chat that is legal. Its highly addictive and it has made its way into schools. Its benefited local economies but at a very high cost. People walk around with bags of the stuff, getting high and talking to themselves and imaginary friends. It has effectively made a lot of people apathetic and useless to society. I think it's one of those things I would like to test for a few years. Legalize drugs and see what happens. I don't think anyone knows what would happen but in our immediate-gratification society where people can't even monitor what they eat, I think it would cause a lot of damage. Especially to anassumming young people who may want to naively "try it once" and turn into addicts.
    Easy way to lower obesity rates. Make meth legal.

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    "having a big ass surgeon general's warning on every cigarette box doesn't stop 20% of the population from smoking."

    Big Tobacco disagrees, and are litigating like to stop the packets being covered with explicit images of tobacco's ravages.

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    because the government thinks it knows better than us and legalizes drugs it can tax and makes those illegal that it can't

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    really weed worse than oxycotin?

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    Weed makes you act re ed. I've done it before. Yes it's fun but I worry about the long term effects. Carcinogens being the biggest negative about it.
    I've yet to see a stoned person act re ed. You, on the other hand, I could see that happening.

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    Weed makes you act re ed. I've done it before. Yes it's fun but I worry about the long term effects. Carcinogens being the biggest negative about it.
    Vaporize that then. Or eat it. The only thing bad about marijuana is that it stays in your system for months on end and will guarantee a failed drug test when looking for work.

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    Alcohol abuse affects others, and prohibition did jack to limit that

    Tobacco abuse affects how expensive the healthcare of people who don't puff smoke down their throat is, but having a big ass surgeon general's warning on every cigarette box doesn't stop 20% of the population from smoking.

    Keeping drugs illegal does jack to limit its use and its affect on other people.
    Keeping drugs illegal just makes the affects worse since drug dealers don't check ID. When you were in high school, which was harder to get? Weed or whiskey? , cocaine was easier to get than booze.

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    You cited certain countries where it hasn't been much of a problem.
    Alcohol consumption isn't a problem in america?

    Alcohol consumption is a bigger problem in America among 18-21 year olds than any other country by far yet America is one of very few places where it's illegal for an 18-21 year old to drink alcohol. What an odd trend.

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    Keeping drugs illegal just makes the affects worse since drug dealers don't check ID. When you were in high school, which was harder to get? Weed or whiskey? , cocaine was easier to get than booze.
    I've never even thought of that but great point. Getting weed in high school was 100x easier than getting booze.

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    "having a big ass surgeon general's warning on every cigarette box doesn't stop 20% of the population from smoking."

    Big Tobacco disagrees, and are litigating like to stop the packets being covered with explicit images of tobacco's ravages.
    The ill effects of smoking couldn't be easier to know about than they are now. I don't blame the tobacco companies for being able to profit off the 20% of re ed Americans who still smoke.

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    Keeping drugs illegal just makes the affects worse since drug dealers don't check ID. When you were in high school, which was harder to get? Weed or whiskey? , cocaine was easier to get than booze.
    and you think if these drugs were to be legal there wouldn't be an abundance of people who are of age to buy that wouldn't sell it on the side to people who aren't of age to make a buck, just as they do now?

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    Alcohol consumption isn't a problem in america?

    Alcohol consumption is a bigger problem in America among 18-21 year olds than any other country by far yet America is one of very few places where it's illegal for an 18-21 year old to drink alcohol. What an odd trend.
    alcohol can be bought very convienently at a store with no drug middleman to have to go through, and it's cheap. you want to do that with meth, crack, cocain, and heroin. don't expect the trend to be much different if that ever happens.

    doesn't matter with alcohol. i aleady explained that siblings and willing-to-help-get-you-drunk parents are in abundance in the states. siblings and parents aren't "middlemen". alcohol might as well be legal in the states being that it's so easy to get.
    Last edited by mingus; 12-06-2011 at 12:14 AM.

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    and you think if these drugs were to be legal there wouldn't be an abundance of people who are of age to buy that wouldn't sell it on the side to people who aren't of age to make a buck, just as they do now?
    I never knew any alcohol dealers in school tbh.

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    Vaporize that then. Or eat it. The only thing bad about marijuana is that it stays in your system for months on end and will guarantee a failed drug test when looking for work.
    If they test your hair that is correct but for a urine test you can clean out in a couple days.

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    I never knew any alcohol dealers in school tbh.
    No, but you had fake IDs and you had older siblings of friends who bought be for you for parties. A whole lot of more than willing parents to help out too. You'd probably just as easily be able to buy drugs with a fake ID and since parents and older siblings probably wouldn't do it because of the nature of these drugs, dealing drugs of this sort would still be profitable.

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    No, but you had fake IDs and you had older siblings of friends who bought be for you for parties. A whole lot of more than willing parents to help out too. You'd probably just as easily be able to buy drugs with a fake ID and since parents and older siblings probably wouldn't do it because of the nature of these drugs, dealing drugs of this sort would still be profitable.
    doubtful

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    Alcohol abuse affects others, and prohibition did jack to limit that
    Maybe I should have added qualifiers. Alcohol does have bad effects on others, but isn't something that can permanently disable someone like some drugs can. I believe in personal responsibility. If someone wants to be addicted to drugs that make them such that they cannot support themselves financially, then that's fine with me, as long as they have a trust fund or something that takes care of them rather than tax payers having to.

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    No, but you had fake IDs and you had older siblings of friends who bought be for you for parties. A whole lot of more than willing parents to help out too. You'd probably just as easily be able to buy drugs with a fake ID and since parents and older siblings probably wouldn't do it because of the nature of these drugs, dealing drugs of this sort would still be profitable.
    What part of it being harder to buy legal drugs when one needs to find someone 21 to get them is so hard for you to understand? Wow, it's not 100% foolproof.

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    What part of it being harder to buy legal drugs when one needs to find someone 21 to get them is so hard for you to understand? Wow, it's not 100% foolproof.
    My point was that underage people wont have a hard time buying it at all when they can buy it off someone. And I explained to you why you never had to buy alcohol from a dealer at school. I guess you never got wasted enough to find out getting beer in High School was a POC w/ older siblings and accommodating parents.

    It has nothing to do with not getting anything. I just don't agree with your stance.

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    i never needed anyone 21 or older to get alcohol for me when i was a kid... same goes for lsd, mush, bud, and pills. it was all easy to get, easier than learning to ride a bike and that's pretty damn easy to learn.

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