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This doesn't sit well with me & makes our chance slim of picking up a big man
The two bits of news coming out at the same time is pretty interesting....
This doesn't sit well with me & makes our chance slim of picking up a big man
Possibility to start plus play with an organization he likes might sway Butler.
You know what, I dont think theres one non-defensive-minded team that wouldnt take bonner. Bonner, and dice's contract, thats around 9 mil.
Blair would be the piece traded with Dyess to bring in a big, not Bonner unfortunately.
That's what I'm thinking too.
Butler or his agent could have tipped off Woj, since the Spurs surely would have told him they planned to waive RJ in order to allay any concerns over playing time.
I hope it means the Spurs are close or confident in a deal with one of those SF veterans. But what it really tells me is they're confident that they're a better team without him and that he's not worth the $2M they add to replace him. That's a pretty big statement.
Am I the only one who doesn't understand how Caron Butler would fit on this team? He's most effective on isolations -- sets the Spurs don't run and shouldn't run when any of the Big 3 is also on the court.
Amnesty-ing RJ to give Butler a full MLE deal is like hoping maybe your other hand won't get burned by touching the same hot stove.
I think Tiago is on his way out. Mcdyess + Tiago for Anderson Varejo is coming....
It's a sad day when your team is without a starting SF, Vince Carter is a rumored option, and you're left hoping and praying they can land Caron Butler for the MLE.
Wouldn't it be funny if Butler landed in S.A. and RJ ended up in a Mavs uniform?
Dejuan (and his tweets)/Bonner/Dice's contract to Clippers for Kaman.
While I'm glad to see a quick resolution to the Jefferson issue (personally, I didn't want to spend another season hoping to squeeze blood from a stone), this does worry me quite a bit.
If we had one glaring weakness in the Memphis series, it was our frontline. Our bigs just couldn't hang with their size and toughness and it's not like the Grizzlies are the only team to boast a sizable frontline. Unless Splitter seriously develops in his second season, or the Spurs have some tricks up their sleeve trade-wise or in the free agent market, Spurs will still have the same deficiencies that was their Achilles Heel last season.
Yeah but if we're being totally accurate we'd also have to add back in any luxury tax payments that overpaying RJ has and will cause.
I was going to say the same thing. I can see him being RJ 2.0.
But in a fistfight in a dark alley Butler would annihilate RJ ... Butler may have the same problems adapting to playing with the BIG 3, but at least he is a compe or!
Except your other hand has the mindset to be wearing oven mitts.
Basically Jefferson's at ude, mentality and motor sucked so did his iso game. The opposite is true for Butler.
Last edited by Buddy Holly; 12-07-2011 at 02:26 PM.
I was thinking the same thing but what other options do we have? I wouldn't mind starting Leonard, but I doubt Pop give him that spot so early.
I would like to see Blair saved for the deadline trade to see if he improves. I don't see him making huge progress though. He just seems like he's got some incredible potential that we haven't even begun to tap.
Jefferson was so worthless against Memphis that he actually did more for the Spurs by being on the bench. I'm not really sure how Butler fits in either, but being able to unload RJ and his contract for Caron's unknown value is worth a shot at this point.
Much rather have Butler than RJ. His wouldn't be that hard to move after a couple years if it didn't work out either.
The label of a "ball stopper" that Caron has might be true at times but I think having somebody else that can create their own shot would be a huge plus for this team. Manu isn't getting any younger and he's pretty much the only one on our roster who can do what Caron can do with the ball.
He also isn't a mental midget like RJ and brings an at ude and toughness this locker-room would benefit to have. He might not be the ideal choice but I like this idea of him in a Spurs uniform.
I'm very surprised Holt was ready to waive RJ while he was owned $29M.
Right now, It's hard to tell is it's or not a good move. 2 questions are up in the air:
1) Will a team below the cap claim a part of RJ's contract?
2) What Spurs will do with this new financial flexibility?
I'm shocked the Spurs are manning up and viewing RJ as a sunk cost and admitting their mistake to the world. Don't see that often. Especially with the reports of Holt being the champion for having the amnesty not expire this year.
I'm also shocked because of the financial commitment. Assuming no one claims RJ, spurs using amnesty on RJ + the full MLE is akin to paying the new guy 14m this year + the additional life of the new contract. It's really surprising that w team needs and using a lottery pick on a SF that they target a position like SF for guys who's talent isn't much better (although it wasn't a talent issue w RJ just at ude and Caron is a huge upgrade in toughness)
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