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    Gotta love the bible thumper's arguments on slavery

    slavery back then wasn't like slavery today, people wanted to be slaves and enjoyed it

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    So you want a federal law forcing churches to marry same sex couples?

    What is wrong with states allowing something no other generation in 5000 years of recorded history to do, as a sign of our more progressing and enlightened culture?

    How is that going against human rights?
    Federal law doesn't have to force anyone to do anything, it simply has to prevent lower jurisdictions from infringing on someone's rights. A gay couple can be attracted to each other, fall in love, raise a family, be faithful to each other and stay together until they die, which cons utes a marriage by any measurable standard. If a church refuses to issue a marriage certificate, that's their right, but a local government should not be allowed to refuse to issue one if there's no fraud involved. I'm not sure that marriage is a basic human right, but saying that a gay couple can't get married is about as arbitrary as saying a gay person can't drive a car.

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    I'll address your other posts tomorrow... I'll be on my way to Dallas and typing responses through the mobile version of the website sucks...

    But I'll comment on this post, before I head out of the house.
    I'll be sitting on pins and needles.

    I was suggesting you were being misled by whatever website filled your mind with the notion that GOD endorses the brutality of slavery or that He doesn't desire that we be free individuals... I simply don't buy the assertion that you somehow catalogued each and every Biblical "servanthood" reference on your own. Like I said, you were misled by the atheistic agenda of those websites you frequent... I saw all of these same out-of-context references in that website RG posted awhile back concerning amputees...
    Googled "slavery bible"

    resulted in Wikipedia: slavery in the Bible, list of verses.

    As for the implications of the New Covenant: Jesus Himself said that "He makes all things new" that He would establish a Kingdom of Righteousness and harmony and furthermore that He came to "liberate the captives free"... that somehow you don't see this statement as a condemnation on the oppression of slavery is beyond me... You have chosen to be conveniently blind only to suit the needs of your argument...
    Since when does "captives" means "slaves"?

    Also 1 Timothy 1:10 references "slave traders" as:

    andrapodistais
    ἀνδραποδισταῖς
    men-stealers,
    kidnappers of free men
    enslavers
    slave dealers

    Sounds like modern slavery to me... and listed among the other evil acts... i.e. condemned by the New Covenant through Christ.
    sounds like men-stealers and kidnappers of free men to me from what you put there.

    The King James Bible as monumental accomplishment as it was is not free of translation errors... the few that were incurred (less than 40 or so), however, have been corrected with the aid of older source codex scrolls and the Dead Sea Scrolls Septuagint. NONE of them, however, detract from the central message because, the Bible as a whole clearly establishes the purpose of Christ's redemptive act and expounds on GOD's desire that "all mankind be saved, and that none should perish".
    Is King James correct here when it says "forever"?

    Is the literal translation correct when it says

    "45 and also of the sons of the settlers who are sojourning with you, of them ye buy, and of their families who [are] with you, which they have begotten in your land, and they have been to you for a possession;"?

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    Federal law doesn't have to force anyone to do anything, it simply has to prevent lower jurisdictions from infringing on someone's rights. A gay couple can be attracted to each other, fall in love, raise a family, be faithful to each other and stay together until they die, which cons utes a marriage by any measurable standard. If a church refuses to issue a marriage certificate, that's their right, but a local government should not be allowed to refuse to issue one if there's no fraud involved. I'm not sure that marriage is a basic human right, but saying that a gay couple can't get married is about as arbitrary as saying a gay person can't drive a car.
    Great take

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    Phenomanul types so much but says so little.

    It's interesting how God's stance on slavery changes. If he is supposed to be a perfect being, one would reasonably assume that he got the rule right the first time.

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    I've got an honest question. If its true that according to Christian belief, any non believer is doomed to ? which means that more than half the population of this world is doomed, correct?

    How exactly does one reconcile the notion of an all benevolent God who makes it so that more than half of his children enter his world already doomed through no fault of their own other than having been born into the wrong religion?

    Someone explain that one to me plz
    There are some denominations, like the catholics I believe, that believe someone who was true to their belief would go to heaven. I honestly wonder the same thing. It hasn't been covered directly in the bible.

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    Q: Can other religions lead to Heaven too?
    A: No. Jesus said there is only one way, and that way is not a religion, not even Christianity. That way is Jesus Himself. People who think other religions lead to the same place forget that everyone does not even want to go to the same place. For example, many Hindus desire to rejoin an eternal life, die for the last time, lose their individuality, and be absorbed in a cosmic consciousness. Buddhists want to go to Nirvana, where among other thing, there is no love or joy. Muslims refuse to worship Jesus and are taught to fight against Christians. Either this pleases God or it displeases God, but it cannot be both. Everyone does not all worship the same God, because God does not have multiple personality disorder! In addition to all the verses referenced in the first question, there are five main things Scripture teaches about Jesus being the only way.
    a) Only One Way: Imagine, before Jesus' terrible torture and crucifixion, Jesus praying in the Garden in Gethsemane saying "Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me", and God the Father saying, "Your dying on the cross is not needed to take away people's sins, we're just going through all this for fun." Jesus' death did not provide an "alternative way" to go to Heaven. Jesus is the one and only way.
    b) Narrow is the gate and way that leads to eternal life (Matthew 7:14). Can someone like a Buddhist ever go to Heaven? Sure, because my father-in-law and mother-in-law were Buddhists, before they rejected Buddhism and came to Christ. A Muslim who wants to come to Christ has to realize that when Mohammed fought against Christianity, he was against the Triune God of Christianity.
    c) Sacrifices a person sincerely might make to idols, are sacrifices to demons, not God. (1 Corinthians 10:19-20; Deuteronomy 32:16-17). C.S. Lewis wrote otherwise near the end of his book, The Lion, The Witch, and the Wardrobe. C.S. Lewis was wrong here.
    d) However, God desires that none perish (2 Peter 3:9; Ezekiel 18:23,32). The narrowness is not due to God's lack of love, or withholding information, but due to people's rejection of God (Romans 1:18-21) and not combining what they know with faith (Hebrews 4:2).
    e) Everyone who trusts in Jesus will never be put to shame (Romans 10:11b)
    f) People have to call on one whom they believe, whom they have heard about, who have been preached to. (Romans 10:14-15)
    An illustration might help here. Suppose you were on an island and you were warned that a hurricane was coming. There is a narrow bridge connecting the island to the mainland. It really does not matter which road you take on the island, or which way you go, as long as you do not want to leave the island. If you want to escape the hurricane though, you have to cross the bridge to the mainland. Now the typhoon of judgment for mankind’s sin in coming to our island called earth. God invites us all to cross the bridge He has provided for us and escape. If we choose not to cross God’s bridge though, then our destruction is our own fault.
    When Helen Keller, who was blind and deaf, learned to communicate with the outside world, her teacher shared with her about God. Helen said that she always knew He was there, but she just did not know His name.
    Contrary view: Pope John Paul II and many liberal Protestants believe that many religions lead people to the same God, that Jesus is the best way, but not the only way. Jesus said, "no one comes to the Father, but through Me." (John 14:6). If you are going to the same place as all the other religions lead, or you can go to a different place, where Jesus leads.
    http://www.biblequery.org/Doctrine/N...gTheGospel.htm

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    An illustration might help here. Suppose you were on an island and you were warned that a hurricane was coming. There is a narrow bridge connecting the island to the mainland. It really does not matter which road you take on the island, or which way you go, as long as you do not want to leave the island. If you want to escape the hurricane though, you have to cross the bridge to the mainland. Now the typhoon of judgment for mankind’s sin in coming to our island called earth. God invites us all to cross the bridge He has provided for us and escape. If we choose not to cross God’s bridge though, then our destruction is our own fault.
    Other examples of that logic:

    "I told that woman that if she didn't want me to beat her, all she had to do was give me a BJ. She chose not to take the easy way out."

    "I told that guy that if he just shut up about our illegal operations, he could keep his job. He chose to blab."

    "I offered the guy the option to hand me over his wallet or take a bullet. If he chooses not to hand over the wallet, that's his problem."

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    “Ms. Bachmann, my mommy’s gay but she doesn’t need any fixing,” the child said.
    gay-



    doesn't need fixing






    does not compute

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    How many 8 year old kids know who Bachman is or would want to meet her? Kids don't care about politics and hippie .

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    The 8 year old doesn't know mommy licks vagina. She will learn though.

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    But seriously, why would a kid want to meet Mic e Bachman? I don't get it. I know it was a stunt by the mom to be political but it's kind of pathetic on the mom's part.
    The mom obviously doesn't like Bachman or Bachman's views so why even do it? Was it done just to stick it to the evil Republican bigot conservative female?

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    But seriously, why would a kid want to meet Mic e Bachman? I don't get it. I know it was a stunt by the mom to be political but it's kind of pathetic on the mom's part.
    The mom obviously doesn't like Bachman or Bachman's views so why even do it? Was it done just to stick it to the evil Republican bigot conservative female?
    The same reason kids meet some old bearded man in the mall and sit on his lap, because Mom wants it.

    But the kid was right. If mom is Gay, she doesn't need to be fixed. She's already thwarted her child production.

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    Was it done just to stick it to the evil Republican bigot conservative female?
    As good a reason as any.

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    Well what a delightful story …Just what this country needs…Another screwed up kid because Mommy went to the dark side…How dare any parent change teams after bringing children into this world…

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    ...An illustration might help here. Suppose you were on an island and you were warned that a hurricane was coming. There is a narrow bridge connecting the island to the mainland. It really does not matter which road you take on the island, or which way you go, as long as you do not want to leave the island. If you want to escape the hurricane though, you have to cross the bridge to the mainland. Now the typhoon of judgment for mankind’s sin in coming to our island called earth. God invites us all to cross the bridge He has provided for us and escape. If we choose not to cross God’s bridge though, then our destruction is our own fault.....
    Suppose the fire department invites us all to have fire department services for a relatively reasonable $75 fee.

    If we choose not to pay the fee and our houses catch fire, then the death and destruction is our own fault.

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    Bill O was a total idiot last night on his show. Saying that an 8 yr old doesn't know about sexuality? Maybe his 8 yr old kid doesn't know because he's been sheltered from reality. What a jerk.

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