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    So....if Chicago is in the lead for the Butler signing, then its its them or NJ right ?

    If the San Antonio visit went so well, then how is Chicago still in the lead ? What kind of game is Butler playing. I hate when players pull that .

    The Spurs and the FO don't need compliments, they need players.

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    if t he bulls get butler, are they going to keep bogans or they waiving him

    wouldnt mind havin the centerpiece back on the team just for laughs

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    eddy curry medical with the heat, maybe minimum contract

    kwame brown anyone?

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    I'm suprised Spurs seem to have no interest in Joel Pryzbilla, maybe even Kwame Brown.

    Hopefully when we settle our SF position, we can go after him.
    i remember that, in 2006, the spurs wanted to sign him.

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    Good, quick team-by-team overview of NBA free agency and salary cap information:

    http://www.sbnation.com/2011-nba-fre...des-salary-cap

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    right now I'm more on the Prince bandwagon than any other SF left: Butler, Howard, Hill, etc. (Plus he hasn't been mentioned at all in Spurs rumors).

    He is 6'9, plays good defense (blocks and steals), and not an "offensive" type player.

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    people that haven't watched the Pistons in 4 years fail to realize that Prince is simply not that good anymore.

    Lazy on defense, selfish on offense. Stands around and then holds the ball to make an iso play when he has it. Ever since his injury he hasn't been the same physically or mentally.

    He's on the bottom of my list, I'd rather have the older SF's.....

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    people that haven't watched the Pistons in 4 years fail to realize that Prince is simply not that good anymore.

    Lazy on defense, selfish on offense. Stands around and then holds the ball to make an iso play when he has it. Ever since his injury he hasn't been the same physically or mentally.

    He's on the bottom of my list, I'd rather have the older SF's.....
    no motivation when ur stuck on a team rebuilding and going nowhere...

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    I'd like to make a play at Pryzbilla if we can't get a bigger name.

    As far as SF, I wonder if Dunleavy Jr is on our radar, other than the names we've been hearing.

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    no motivation when ur stuck on a team rebuilding and going nowhere...
    My point is we haven't seen him play well in 4 years...and he's just gonna start now?

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    I hear Antawn Jamison is a possible amnesty target. Both he and Baron Davis are not needed in a rebuilding project such as the Cavaliers. While Baron is probably the better amnesty pick, I hear Jamison is really pushing for this because he wants to get on a contender desperately. Should he be amnistied, there is a good chance he signs with a team at the veteran minimum. What are your thoughts on Jamison on the Spurs for a low salary?

    I think he would be very welcomed.

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    right now I'm more on the Prince bandwagon than any other SF left: Butler, Howard, Hill, etc. (Plus he hasn't been mentioned at all in Spurs rumors).

    He is 6'9, plays good defense (blocks and steals), and not an "offensive" type player.
    Do you think he commands the full MLE? I'd say around 4 millions

    System wise, he's a better fit than any SF left including butler. He shoots the corner 3 better than Caron and is a more versatile defender. I don't think he could be any worse than RJ so I'd be fine with it.

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    no motivation when ur stuck on a team rebuilding and going nowhere...
    If the 10M/yr he was collecting from the Pistons wasn't enough motivation to play hard....

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    On December 3rd:

    I'll expect the 2011-12 Spurs to be the 2010-11 Spurs minus Hill and Dice. New players will Leonard, a minimum salary big, and maybe a minimum salary backup PG.

    I remain open to pleasant surprises.

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    I'll expect the 2011-12 Spurs to be the 2010-11 Spurs minus Hill and Dice. New players will Leonard, a minimum salary big, and maybe a minimum salary backup PG.

    I remain open to pleasant surprises.
    So basically to be the 2011 Spurs without our 2nd best big and our 3rd best guard from last year.

    Sounds great

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    lol Dice second best big.

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    Outlaw amnestied by the Nets:
    http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap...estied_By_Nets

    Not sure he'll be an upgrade over RJ.
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    Outlaw amnestied by the Nets:
    http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap...estied_By_Nets

    Not sure he'll be an upgrade over RJ.
    I agree. At least RJ can stretch the defense.

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    Outlaw was beyond terrible last year. He was so bad, Avery turned to Graham and Sasha over him.

    I rather have R.J or, if amnestied, stick to Leonard/Anderson/Green.

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    I agree with everyone else. Outlaw was way bad last year. Terrible shooter, non-committed defender, despite having great wingspan. At least RJ improved his 3-pt shooting.

    As a matter of fact, between the Spurs re-upping RJ to a ridiculous extension and the Nets offering up the mid-level for Outlaw, I'm not sure which decision was worse.

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    Looks like the Spurs will hold onto RJ at this point. What I've read from McDonald this morning was supremely disappointing. It seems like the Spurs mindset is to just stay stable and not shake things up too much. I was surprised when Woj wrote they would amnesty RJ because it's hard to imagine them eating that contract. Looks like they will just hold onto him.

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    Now the worry becomes them dumping him at the deadline with one of the good young players to get rid of him. This was probably the biggest reason I wanted to see him gone before opening day.

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    Honestly, RJ is better than the other small forwards on the market. Yes, we paid too much for him, but right now the benefit of waiving him doesn't translate into more cap space to get better players. And the best players on the market right now are marginal given that the best players planned for this season in advance and got their contracts to go beyond the lockout.

    Oh well, we can always hope that young players make a big jump this season.

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    Actually, I think we should be like Dallas was last year. Why spend the mid-level on players that won't actually make the team better. Why not wait and see who becomes available at playoff time. Heck, there are some free agents stuck in China right now and if we have money, we could sign them for the playoff run (assuming we are in contention) rather than the crap that is on the market right now.

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    Now the worry becomes them dumping him at the deadline with one of the good young players to get rid of him. This was probably the biggest reason I wanted to see him gone before opening day.
    Pretty sure that's one of the reason's why R.J has yet to be traded (Along w/ his contract; Spurs are reluctant to trade young assets) .

    Spurs will most likely wait to use the amnesty next off-season. I don't see the big deal either. If R.J has a bad first half or a bad stretch of games, Pop finally has more than capable replacements in Leonard and Anderson.

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