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    Do you believe the Spurs would not be a lottery team if TJ Ford started the entire season in place of Parker?
    1 - If TJ can stay healthy 2 - If they incorporate RJ in the offense I dont see the Spurs being any type of lottery team, unless the worse happens. Duncan or Manu out for the season or injured for most of it.

    The offense would change a bit without him. Kinda like the Nuggets, they fed and fed Melo. Then when he left the other players got legit chances to make plays and take shots and they did fine.

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    odom is at lakers practice too. some rejects cant take a hint

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    Lamar Odom Skips First Day of Lakers Training Camp After Failed Chris Paul Trade
    CHRIS PAUL, LAMAR ODOM, LOS ANGELES LAKERS, NBA | COMMENTS

    NBA star Lamar Odom did not report to Lakers training camp today, according to the Los Angeles Times.

    Odom voiced his displeasure Thursday over his involvement in the failed Chris Paul trade deal and told the LA Times, “Maybe I’ll see you [at training camp], but I doubt it. You don’t want to go to no place you’re not wanted.”

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    Ok, now we just have to convince Demps that he needs RJ at 3yrs/30M.
    Now that's an entirely different problem altogether. Maybe Pop and Rc can talk about the good ol' days and then bring up RJ after a few (10 or more) drinks......

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    Ok, now we just have to convince Demps that he needs RJ at 3yrs/30M.
    Sign Landry.

    Trade R.J/Blair for Ariza ? Bueller?

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    Now that's an entirely different problem altogether. Maybe Pop and Rc can talk about the good ol' days and then bring up RJ after a few (10 or more) drinks......
    Pop will have to bring the special stuff up from the cellar....

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    Let's trade RJ for Odom. One malcontent for another!

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    Sign Landry.

    Trade R.J/Blair for Ariza + inferior filler? Bueller?
    Ariza makes a 3-4 million less than RJ per year. That filler would have to be J-Jack or something of his type contract.

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    Pop will have to bring the special stuff up from the cellar....
    And then hope and pray, that RC doesnt drink it all in the car on their way to Demps' place.

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    Sign Landry.

    Trade R.J/Blair for Ariza ? Bueller?
    I don't think there's much chance we see NOH adding any long term financial commitments, but it's worth a call. All they can do is say no, just like everyone else they've talked to so far.

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    And then hope and pray, that RC doesnt drink it all in the car on their way to Demps' place.

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    "...and then Jefferson showed up for practice"


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    I don't think there's much chance we see NOH adding any long term financial commitments, but it's worth a call. All they can do is say no, just like everyone else they've talked to so far.
    It's certainly worth a call, R.J makes only 8 more million than Ariza over the next 3 years. Ariza was worse than R.J last year.

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    At what point does it become apparent that this FO is not able to make the Spurs a legitmate contender now that the big 3 have faded.

    I get it that the Spurs were extremely fortunate to get Duncan through the draft, but the other FO moves (& picks) in the years after that (Tony, Manu, S. Jackson, Bowen, Horry, etc.) were just as important.

    Neal was a pretty good pick up, but I'd have to guess that was more of pure luck than well done scouting. Leonard & Anderson might end up being good, but will their success overshadow - RJ, Scola, J. Butler, Bonner, Ian, G. Hill, Finley, Udoka, Bogans, etc.?

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    At what point does it become apparent that this FO is not able to make the Spurs a legitmate contender now that the big 3 have faded.

    I get it that the Spurs were extremely fortunate to get Duncan through the draft, but the other FO moves (& picks) in the years after that (Tony, Manu, S. Jackson, Bowen, Horry, etc.) were just as important.

    Neal was a pretty good pick up, but I'd have to guess that was more of pure luck than well done scouting. Leonard & Anderson might end up being good, but will their success overshadow - RJ, Scola, J. Butler, Bonner, Ian, G. Hill, Finley, Udoka, Bogans, etc.?
    This.

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    I don't think there's much chance we see NOH adding any long term financial commitments, but it's worth a call. All they can do is say no, just like everyone else they've talked to so far.
    This is why, depending on what young players/picks the Hornets can pry out of another team for Chris Paul, we could yet see a RJ/Dice/Blair for Ariza/Okafor trade; it clears out $10+M in salary for 2012-2013 and 2013-2014. If it takes a pick to get it done, I think it would be well worth it.

    Yes, I'm aware that this is homer talk. But isn't this the place for it?

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    1 - If TJ can stay healthy 2 - If they incorporate RJ in the offense I dont see the Spurs being any type of lottery team, unless the worse happens. Duncan or Manu out for the season or injured for most of it.
    Spurs have had 2 years to incorporate RJ into the offense...it is not going to happen. He is too hesitant to shoot or drive to the rim on a consistent basis. Add to this that he would be bitter about the amnesty leaks prior to today and I believe he would be nothing but a sulking mess if he stayed here another season.

    I initially liked the Ford signing as a Parker backup until I saw the notes from Timvp about how awful he has been since his neck injury. Seems like his days as a starter are way behind him.

    As much as I love and respect Tim and Manu during their tenures here, they can no longer carry the load for a team themselves. Better to start the process of trying to improve the team for the future than running in place this season.

    Now, if we can pickup a big like Kaman or West, plus get a competent SF to replace Jefferson while allowing Leonard and Anderson to improve...I am all for giving it another shot.

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    It's certainly worth a call, R.J makes only 8 more million than Ariza over the next 3 years. Ariza was worse than R.J last year.
    Have to disagree with you there. He is much better fit with the spurs, simply because he can shoot the corner 3 and doesn't have confidence issues. And then first and foremost he plays serious D. In the hornets offense they allow players a certain amount freedom, even though its not always productive. Thats what RJ needs, and Ariza doesnt.

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    Let's trade RJ for Odom. One malcontent for another!
    I realize this is a joke, but... it doesn't actually sound that bad. We'd have to give the Lakers something else obviously, but still.

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    Don't do this to me. Don't wanna hear: "How stole christmas"...

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    Spurs have had 2 years to incorporate RJ into the offense...it is not going to happen. He is too hesitant to shoot or drive to the rim on a consistent basis.
    They run more motion and iso plays for him an he gets rewarded when he runs in transition. I see all this take place when Parker is hurt.

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