Mavs looking to clear Brewer/Fernandez from their cap space...

[Big P]

$11, 881, 232. That's how much money Brewer has made in his career. I know some of that goes to taxes, his agent and he probably has a few others on his payroll (manager, publicist, financial planner, chef, house keeper, etc.) But still. If he's not already, not set for life, but living comfortably off of that, then he's an idiot.

Not because I'm a Spurs fan, but this was a perfect fit for him. He could have played an Ariza type role on a team with a shot to at least win a couple of rounds. That would have been much more beneficial to his career going forward than a quick cash grab.

So who decides that brewer has made enough money and that he should be set by now?

Brewer did what was best for him at that point...I don't fault him...who's to say that he wouldn't have had a career ending injury last year and would never play ball again, and if he would have taken a minimum salary, how set would he have been? And if he would have played at minimum or less than value money, had a career ending injury, how would that have helped him "in his career going forward"?

I would have liked to see him on our team last year, but WE didn't/don't have the money, that's not his fault.

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So who decides that brewer has made enough money and that he should be set by now?

Brewer did what was best for him at that point...I don't fault him...who's to say that he wouldn't have had a career ending injury last year and would never play ball again, and if he would have taken a minimum salary, how set would he have been? And if he would have played at minimum or less than value money, had a career ending injury, how would that have helped him "in his career going forward"?

I would have liked to see him on our team last year, but WE didn't/don't have the money, that's not his fault.

It's incredible how many people lack basic reading comprehension. I never said he's "made enough money" or that "he should be set by now" (in fact, I specifically said "not set for life, but living comfortably off of that".)

It was a short sighted decision. And now, he'll either be stapled to the Mavs bench, inactive or sent to a team of their choosing and depending on the team, he may again be stapled to the bench.

How was taking more in the short term (if I recall correctly, the Spurs offered either their remaining cap space or their bi-annual exception, so somewhere in the range of $1.8-2.5 million) worth it, when he's already made just under $12 million in his career? He could have come to the Spurs, actually played a role, likely started this season and potentially gotten the full mid-level exception for his next contract. At the rate he's going, he'll be hard pressed to duplicate the contract he's currently on, much less exceed it.

[Big P]

It's incredible how many people lack basic reading comprehension. I never said he's "made enough money" or that "he should be set by now" (in fact, I specifically said "not set for life, but living comfortably off of that".)

It was a short sighted decision. And now, he'll either be stapled to the Mavs bench, inactive or sent to a team of their choosing and depending on the team, he may again be stapled to the bench.

How was taking more in the short term (if I recall correctly, the Spurs offered either their remaining cap space or their bi-annual exception, so somewhere in the range of $1.8-2.5 million) worth it, when he's already made just under $12 million in his career? He could have come to the Spurs, actually played a role, likely started this season and potentially gotten the full mid-level exception for his next contract. At the rate he's going, he'll be hard pressed to duplicate the contract he's currently on, much less exceed it.

My point exactly...there is no guarantee he would have signed a bigger contract..he took the money instead of hoping that playing for the Spurs would have "furthered" his career.....Pop was not going to magically turn him into a super star, he is what he is and his salary reflects that....and it's not really my reading comprehension when you write" If he's not already, not set for life, but living comfortably off of that, then he's an idiot."

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My point exactly...there is no guarantee he would have signed a bigger contract..he took the money instead of hoping that playing for the Spurs would have "furthered" his career.....Pop was not going to magically turn him into a super star, he is what he is and his salary reflects that....and it's not really my reading comprehension when you write" If he's not already, not set for life, but living comfortably off of that, then he's an idiot."

Very few things are guaranteed in life. It's not about a guarantee, it's about putting yourself in the best possible situation. The Spurs were clearly a better situation for him, at least out of the two. You'd have to be a biased Mavs fan, shortsighted or an idiot to think otherwise.

[The Truth #6]

1. Other than RJ and Bonner, I don't think anyone has ever made above market value by playing for the Spurs.

2. The Mavs won a le...how can you say he went to the wrong team?

3. When middling talent go to the Spurs and then get cut - usually their career is over because no one wants to take a chance on them. SA is the end of the road...he's not there yet.

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1. Other than RJ and Bonner, I don't think anyone has ever made above market value by playing for the Spurs.

2. The Mavs won a le...how can you say he went to the wrong team?

3. When middling talent go to the Spurs and then get cut - usually their career is over because no one wants to take a chance on them. SA is the end of the road...he's not there yet.

Because they used to exclusively bring in minimal vets. How many good prospects have the Spurs had that have played a significant role? One that just did, Hill, is due to cash in to the tune of the full MLE next year.

The Mavs won a le . . . with Brewer stapled to the bench. Where's the accomplishment in that?

Middling talent or not, Brewer is still viewed as an intriguing prospect, which is why there was so much interest in him before the Mavs signed him and why they paid him what they did.

[ChuckD]

Very few things are guaranteed in life. It's not about a guarantee, it's about putting yourself in the best possible situation. The Spurs were clearly a better situation for him, at least out of the two. You'd have to be a biased Mavs fan, shortsighted or an idiot to think otherwise.

I know this is going to come as a shock to some of you, but there are a LOT of players in the NBA that don't care about winning. They'd like to win, but it's a lot of work and trouble. They're getting paid millions to play ball, win or lose, and they get their summers off. It's sort of like a REALLY good paying teaching gig.

[Mel_13]

3. When middling talent go to the Spurs and then get cut - usually their career is over because no one wants to take a chance on them. SA is the end of the road...he's not there yet.

Keith Bogans, Roger Mason, and Kurt Thomas say hi.

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I know this is going to come as a shock to some of you, but there are a LOT of players in the NBA that don't care about winning. They'd like to win, but it's a lot of work and trouble. They're getting paid millions to play ball, win or lose, and they get their summers off. It's sort of like a REALLY good paying teaching gig.

Apparently you're as shortsighted as Brewer. He could have accomplished both (which is the ultimate goal of any athlete): win and get paid. All he'd have had to have done is take less in the short term to have a better opportunity to make more in the long term.

The way he's going, he'll be lucky to get the mini mid-level on his next contract and instead may have to settle for the veteran's minimum. If he'd have come to the Spurs, he'd have had a realistic shot at getting the full mid-level on his next contract.

[Bruno]

Dice for Rudy and Brewer would be a nice deal for Spurs.

First, Rudy wants to go back in Europe where a big contract is waiting for him in Madrid. Spurs can do like with Spanoulis and buying him out for $0.

Dice has $2.1M guaranteed left on his contract. Brewer has $5.7M left. This trade would be the equivalent of signing Brewer to a $3.6M/2 years contract.

Brewer for $1.8M per year? I think it's a great deal.

[slick'81]

oh the guy who spurned sa for dallas and now the mavs dont want him hmmmmmmmmmm

[Amuseddaysleeper]

Dice for Rudy and Brewer would be a nice deal for Spurs.

First, Rudy wants to go back in Europe where a big contract is waiting for him in Madrid. Spurs can do like with Spanoulis and buying him out for $0.

Dice has $2.1M guaranteed left on his contract. Brewer has $5.7M left. This trade would be the equivalent of signing Brewer to a $3.6M/2 years contract.

Brewer for $1.8M per year? I think it's a great deal.

Now the question is, would Cuban be willing to give us Brewer? I doubt it.

[ChuckD]

Now the question is, would Cuban be willing to give us Brewer? I doubt it.

I think he might, since we'd be taking the future Brewer years off his cap. I doubt the Spurs want to pay 3M per year for a SG who can neither shoot nor dribble. He's a plus defender, but you'd have a hard time finding minutes for him because he's SO bad on offense. He's kind of a reverse Bonner.

[ChuckD]

Apparently you're as shortsighted as Brewer. He could have accomplished both (which is the ultimate goal of any athlete): win and get paid. All he'd have had to have done is take less in the short term to have a better opportunity to make more in the long term.

The way he's going, he'll be lucky to get the mini mid-level on his next contract and instead may have to settle for the veteran's minimum. If he'd have come to the Spurs, he'd have had a realistic shot at getting the full mid-level on his next contract.

Did I say I agreed with the position? I'm just telling you how it is. Most players DGAF about winning.

[ace3g]

ESPNSteinLine Marc Stein
Sources tell ESPN that Mavs are in advanced discussions to deal Rudy Fernandez to Denver Nuggets for future draft considerations

[Amuseddaysleeper]

ESPNSteinLine Marc Stein:

HoopsHype's own @BarriHoopsHype confirms Rudy's Denver-bound. Mavs known to still have high hopes for Brewer but Denver in hunt for him, too

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Did I say I agreed with the position? I'm just telling you how it is. Most players DGAF about winning.

Did I say you did? I'm just telling you, I already know how it is. Most players "DGAF" about winning, they just "GAF" about money too and most of the time money comes first. Which is fine. But ideally, they'd like to have their cake and eat it too and Brewer could have done just that, if he'd have been patient.

[ChuckD]

Did I say you did? ...

Apparently you're as shortsighted as Brewer. ...

[spursnatic]

Denver got the both of them for a future 2016 second rd pick?....WTF???....... We could've given them that....

[Mel_13]

Denver got the both of them for a future 2016 second rd pick?....WTF???....... We could've given them that....

Denver made their salaries disappear with part of the Melo trade exception. Spurs couldn't do that.

[spursnatic]

Denver made their salaries disappear with part of the Melo trade exception. Spurs couldn't do that.

So that means most likely they end up keeping Nene also?....SPURS aint doing

[Mel_13]

So that means most likely they end up keeping Nene also?....SPURS aint doing

Spurs NEVER had a chance at Nene.

[jesterbobman]

No, Spurs didn't have a realistic chance. There was a half baked dream based around a potential S&T which was only possible if Nene took less money after loving spending 2 weeks here over Summer, Denver was willing to do the S&T rather than just keeping him and us amnestying RJ then signing a vet SF. Possible? Yes. Nene could give up 20 million for those 2 weeks, but realistically, he's not going to.

[The Truth #6]

Keith Bogans, Roger Mason, and Kurt Thomas say hi.

Touche.