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    You act as if this is the first time they've said this. They ALWAYS threaten that . Its their biggest threat. You see a reason to build a pipeline. I see a reason to make an even stronger push toward alternative energy.
    Why can't we do both? It's not an either/or decision.

    And lets face it...the middle east is much more volatile now than it's been in 20 years and there is no end in sight...

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    Its really not. Iran Iraq war through the 80s. Israel wars with Eygpt prior.

    And it can't be both the pipeline is terrible for the environment.

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    Its really not. Iran Iraq war through the 80s. Israel wars with Eygpt prior.

    And it can't be both the pipeline is terrible for the environment.

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    Just widen the Suez Canal so ships don't have to wait to pass each other.
    ???????

    WTF does the Suez Canal have to do with the Persian Gulf?

    but since you brought it up, how stable is Egypt/Suez Canal? Thats another huge question mark....

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    Its really not. Iran Iraq war through the 80s. Israel wars with Eygpt prior.

    And it can't be both the pipeline is terrible for the environment.
    Why is that pipeline terrible for the environment and the thousands of others already in existence aren't? You have been conned, Manny.

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    You kinda have to go through the straits of hormuz to get to the suez canal. In any event, I don't give a about Iran's threats because they always make empty threats like this. Same when they go out and buy new Russian anti ship weapons.

    Iran's leaders are far more rational than many give them credit for.

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    Why is that pipeline terrible for the environment and the thousands of others already in existence aren't? You have been conned, Manny.
    When did I say the ones that were in existence now weren't?

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    Its really not. Iran Iraq war through the 80s. Israel wars with Eygpt prior.

    And it can't be both the pipeline is terrible for the environment.
    I specifically said last 20 years.

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    When did I say the ones that were in existence now weren't?
    Why are pipelines terrible for the environment?

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    I specifically said last 20 years.
    Fair enough. Although I don't think thats true either. The situation was worse in the past 10 years.

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    Why are pipelines terrible for the environment?
    Um, REALLY?

    Spills, increased CO2 emissions, interruption of animal movement patterns just to name a few off the top of my head.

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    Um, REALLY?

    Spills, increased CO2 emissions, interruption of animal movement patterns just to name a few off the top of my head.
    Most pipelines are buried and you don't even know they are there. There are thousands.

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    These are just the major pipelines in Texas...

    Have you ever seen one? Seen a spill from one?


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    Fear mongering?

    the Iranians threatening to close the straits is really just Republican fear mongering?

    Got DAMN you are a ing idiot....


    Iranians have said all kinds of from threatening Israel to oblivion to blockading this and that. They are full of . It's funny that re s like you start listening to them in election season.

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    You kinda have to go through the straits of hormuz to get to the suez canal. In any event, I don't give a about Iran's threats because they always make empty threats like this.
    pssst, it's election season

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    Unlike you, I'm not stupid enough to underestimate our enemies.

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    but you are stupid enough to believe Iran is out to start a war with us

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    pssst, it's election season
    Damn you are a ing idiot. You didn't even understand what he was talking about. The Suez Canal has nothing to do with the Persian Gulf and the Straits of hormuz.

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    LOL you mad

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    but you are stupid enough to believe Iran is out to start a war with us
    Dummy.

    They don't have to start a war to up the industrial world as we know it. All they have to do is close the straits.

    They know our current President is such a pussy that he wouldn't do anything about it except to ask them "pretty please will you open them up again?" just like he asked "pretty please, will you give us our top secret spy drone back?"...

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    LOL you stupid.

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    but you are stupid enough to believe Iran is out to start a war with us
    Start a war? They've been at war with the United States for decades.

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    Dummy.

    They don't have to start a war to up the industrial world as we know it. All they have to do is close the straits.

    They know our current President is such a pussy that he wouldn't do anything about it except to ask them "pretty please will you open them up again?" just like he asked "pretty please, will you give us our top secret spy drone back?"...
    yes, keep telling yourself they will close the straights

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    Dummy.

    They don't have to start a war to up the industrial world as we know it. All they have to do is close the straits.

    They know our current President is such a pussy that he wouldn't do anything about it except to ask them "pretty please will you open them up again?" just like he asked "pretty please, will you give us our top secret spy drone back?"...
    You really think that we should have given the Iranian people a reason to coalesce around their government against us by starting a war over a drone?

    He asked as a matter of procedure, no one thought they would give it back. If you believe that it was an earnest request then I feel sorry for you.

    Also, if you think that Iran doesn't think that our president (OR ANY OTHER COUNTRY'S LEADER) would think twice about squashing them then, again, I feel sorry for you.

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    You really think that we should have given the Iranian people a reason to coalesce around their government against us by starting a war over a drone?

    He asked as a matter of procedure, no one thought they would give it back. If you believe that it was an earnest request then I feel sorry for you.

    Also, if you think that Iran doesn't think that our president (OR ANY OTHER COUNTRY'S LEADER) would think twice about squashing them then, again, I feel sorry for you.
    he fails to understand the simple "cause and effect" concept. how sad

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