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    I think you're letting Garrett of the hook a bit here too. He has a horrible tendency to forget even thinking about running the ball or pretending to be balanced, setting Romo up to fail.
    Fair point. My point is that Romo should not be absolved if the Cowboys fail again this season. He's had a big part in the chokage as well.

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    In the two "coaching" losses it's important to ask why JG would be hesitant to have the ball in a Top-10 QB's hands at the end, when more aggressive play-calling could've won them the games (Better field position in AZ, going for TD's against NE)? Was he worried Tony would do something stupid?
    JG has a tendency to make the wrong decision in the wrong situation.

    Against the Jets, he had a comfy lead and instead of running the ball and killing clock, he kept with the passing offense, which not only gave them more time to come back but led to the fumble/pick(which is Tony's fault, don't get me wrong). Against NE, he had a small lead and decided to try to run out clock with the run game and rely on his defense to get a stop instead of going with the pass/play-action offense and keeping the ball out of Brady's hands. He gave the ball back to Brady and pretty much invited him to run a successful 2 minute drill. You were right about that in the game thread BTW.

    Basically, Garrett doesn't realize that against mediocre QB's like Sanchez, you can employ running game/defense strategy in the fourth quarter because your defense will likely be able to shut him down, and all you have to do is NOT turn the ball over, which is less likely when you run. Against elite QB's like Brady, you have to keep the ball out of their hands in the last few minutes when you have a narrow lead. Period.

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    JG has a tendency to make the wrong decision in the wrong situation.

    Against the Jets, he had a comfy lead and instead of running the ball and killing clock, he kept with the passing offense, which not only gave them more time to come back but led to the fumble/pick(which is Tony's fault, don't get me wrong). Against NE, he had a small lead and decided to try to run out clock with the run game and rely on his defense to get a stop instead of going with the pass/play-action offense and keeping the ball out of Brady's hands. He gave the ball back to Brady and pretty much invited him to run a successful 2 minute drill. You were right about that in the game thread BTW.

    Basically, Garrett doesn't realize that against mediocre QB's like Sanchez, you can employ running game/defense strategy in the fourth quarter because your defense will likely be able to shut him down, and all you have to do is NOT turn the ball over, which is less likely when you run. Against elite QB's like Brady, you have to keep the ball out of their hands in the last few minutes when you have a narrow lead. Period.
    No doubt, JG's coaching has been a comedy of errors this season. Unfortunately, Jerry Jones just gave him a ringing endorsement and said he'd be around for awhile.

    I do think you're right in that he's wholly mismanaged Romo, but I also think some of Romo's on-field decisions have played into the cluster that is the Cowboys present situation.

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    How is Romo the anti-Tebow? Is he not praying hard enough for field goals? He put them in position both of the last two games.

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    If Romo had a kicker who could hit from 70 yards, the Cowboys would likely have won the last two games.

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    No doubt, JG's coaching has been a comedy of errors this season. Unfortunately, Jerry Jones just gave him a ringing endorsement and said he'd be around for awhile.

    I do think you're right in that he's wholly mismanaged Romo, but I also think some of Romo's on-field decisions have played into the cluster that is the Cowboys present situation.
    The key is to see if Garret learns from his mistakes and comes out and gets it done next year by dominating the division. Im tired of excuses, as you said earlier the Cowboys have way too many offensive weapons to not be putting up 25 per game.

    Romo shares a lot of blame too, he is the offensive leader and should be making better decisions/audibles when he sees certain things from the D.

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    The thread tle is spot on, Romo is the anti-Tebow or if you like Tebow is the anti-Romo.

    Tony is very talented and most of the time he plays well but he makes the worst mistakes at the most critical times.

    Tim is very limited passing the ball and he sucks most of the time but he very rarely makes mistakes and is money on crunch time.

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    Romo is not a championship caliber qb. Good qb but not championship caliber. Sorry.

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    Would you rather have Tebow or Romo as your starting QB?

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    Romo still has believers
    He doesn't have Emmitt Smith and one of the best O lines of all time..

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    Romo is not a championship caliber qb. Good qb but not championship caliber. Sorry.
    Neither was Trent Dilfer, Brad Johnson, etc.

    Romo is definitely nowhere near the calibre of Rodgers, Manning, Brady in the fact that he can carry a team by himself to a le

    but IMO he's still a top 10 QB in the league, and it's not easy to come across guys like that so you might as well stick with him and hope that you can get the help he needs instead of turning it all over

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    I'm not saying Romo is the main problem, I'm just saying he's not the answer at QB. Every time it looks like he's turned the corner, he does something stupid again.
    Then who the is the answer at QB...Drew Bledslow Quincy Carter Drew Henson Ryan Leaf?

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    Romo needs to team up with this guy


    TBH


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    Then who the is the answer at QB...Drew Bledslow Quincy Carter Drew Henson Ryan Leaf?
    What a terrible post. At least bump had some decent reasons for defending the guy.

    Comparing a decent qb to a bunch of garbage from the past does not help your case. If anything, it only solidifies my point even more. Cowboy fans are starved for playoff success and clutch qb play. I'm a Bills fan and we've been pining for those things since Jim Kelly retired.

    Dallas is not used to this...they are used to being America's Team, with qb's like staubach, white, and aikman. So after a few frustrating years of bad qb play, cowboy fans are quick to anoint the next great qb b/c he's got a ton of talent--irregardless of how much he sucks in critical moments in big games. He gets more pardons from cowboy fans than any player i can remember.

    The guy is a ing veteran at this point in his career and he's still giving away games in hilariously inept fashion.

    Is he talented? yeah. Is he physically tough? Yes, he's proved that. Is he mentally tough? Absolutely not.

    He can only take you so far. I agree with BUMP that he's a Top 10 qb as of now and that he can't carry a team on his back--but at the end of the day don't you need that ability from your QB? Dilfer and Johnson benefited from some of the greatest defenses ever, and this was back when every rule change didnt favor the offense.

    If you wanna win in today's nfl, you better have a boss at qb who can make things happen in the clutch.
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    What a terrible post. At least bump had some decent reasons for defending the guy.

    Comparing a decent qb to a bunch of garbage from the past does not help your case. If anything, it only solidifies my point even more. Cowboy fans are starved for playoff success and clutch qb play. I'm a Bills fan and we've been pining for those things since Jim Kelly retired.

    Dallas is not used to this...they are used to being America's Team, with qb's like staubach, white, and aikman. So after a few frustrating years of bad qb play, cowboy fans are quick to anoint the next great qb b/c he's got a ton of talent--irregardless of how much he sucks in critical moments in big games. He gets more pardons from cowboy fans than any player i can remember.

    The guy is a ing veteran at this point in his career and he's still giving away games in hilariously inept fashion.

    Is he talented? yeah. Is he physically tough? Yes, he's proved that. Is he mentally tough? Absolutely not.

    He can only take you so far. I agree with BUMP that he's a Top 10 qb as of now and that he can't carry a team on his back--but at the end of the day don't you need that ability from your QB? Dilfer and Johnson benefited from some of the greatest defenses ever, and this was back when every rule change didnt favor the offense.

    If you wanna win in today's nfl, you better have a boss at qb who can make things happen in the clutch.

    Wait so how many QBs in the league can actually carry a team? and please don't say Brady because these past few seasons have indicated he can't. He has been consistently punched from the playoffs mostly because he lost his once reliable defense that helped win the patriots 3 rings.

    I can think of maybe Rodgers and Manning and Rodgers is a stretch because his defense gives up a ton of yards but usually makes plays and did mask Rodgers terrible NFC championship game against the Bears. Brees in a similar boat.

    In actually there is only one QB who can truly carry a garbage team, Peyton Manning.

    It's a team sport unless Romo get's a consistent defense there is really nothing the cowboys will ever do, and if you seen Romo this year (which you haven't except for those losses pinned on him) you would know he has been pretty clutch. Last two losses he gave the team a chance to win by putting them in field goal range on the last drive of the game...it's not his fault his team can't perform under pressure.

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    Wait so how many QBs in the league can actually carry a team? and please don't say Brady
    Brady, Brees, Rodgers, Manning, Roethlisberger, and Vince

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    And they're all fabulous cornerbacks.

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    I think both sides are right. Cowboys need to either:

    1) Use the fact that they are the Cowboys to land a legit top 5 QB that can carry a team on a deep playoff run.

    2) Build the team to where Tony Romo doesn't have to play like a top 5 QB every single game and constantly bail out the defense/coaching mistakes. Would probably require hiring a known coach who is defensively-minded, and require the defense to get stops in critical situations.

    Either way, what they're doing year in and year out isn't working in playoff games. Something has to change.

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    Really though, Tony has played well the past few weeks. In the previous two games, he played solid in the fourth quarter, and led drives in the waning minute to put his team in the position to win (or at least tie) the game.

    It's not his fault that his dumbass coach decided to ice his own kicker, that his defense can't protect 12 point leads, that Felix Jones suddenly reverts back to being Felix Jones when it really matters, that his kicker who hit 26 straight suddenly can't hit two in a row, or that his offensive line can't hold back the defense from a block.

    Tony made two big mistakes against the Giants...falling into the end zone in the first quarter, and over-throwing his pass to Austin. The first was pretty inexcusable, considering he had his leading receiver wide open, but the second I can let go. That game shouldn't have come down to one blown pass.

    Not that this excuses all of his past ass-hattery, but Romo isn't really to blame for the Cowboys current rendition of December woes.

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    Really though, Tony has played well the past few weeks. In the previous two games, he played solid in the fourth quarter, and led drives in the waning minute to put his team in the position to win (or at least tie) the game.

    It's not his fault that his dumbass coach decided to ice his own kicker, that his defense can't protect 12 point leads, that Felix Jones suddenly reverts back to being Felix Jones when it really matters, that his kicker who hit 26 straight suddenly can't hit two in a row, or that his offensive line can't hold back the defense from a block.

    Tony made two big mistakes against the Giants...falling into the end zone in the first quarter, and over-throwing his pass to Austin. The first was pretty inexcusable, considering he had his leading receiver wide open, but the second I can let go. That game shouldn't have come down to one blown pass.

    Not that this excuses all of his past ass-hattery, but Romo isn't really to blame for the Cowboys current rendition of December woes.

    This.....he hasn't been the "December Tony" we're all used to seeing....

    But his team is playing like the "December Cowboys".

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    i was watchin what look like a replay of the NY VS DALLas game

    how dallas lost in the final 4 seconds of play, wtf does the NYG get to call a timeout when they are defending....lame rules man

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    If I were the owner of the Giants, I'd have fired Coughlin if he DIDN'T ice the Cowboys' kicker.

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    Neither was Trent Dilfer, Brad Johnson, etc.

    Romo is definitely nowhere near the calibre of Rodgers, Manning, Brady in the fact that he can carry a team by himself to a le

    but IMO he's still a top 10 QB in the league, and it's not easy to come across guys like that so you might as well stick with him and hope that you can get the help he needs instead of turning it all over
    Dil fer and BJ had stout defenses the year they won. The cowboys not so much. Is he a top ten? More like top 12. But that's neither here or there. However, the fact still remains he is not a championship qb simply because he is not good enough to overcome his team's shortcomings.

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    Would you rather have Tebow or Romo as your starting QB?

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