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a rich law firm might decide to do it pro-bono, with the right case
only a matter of time, given the trend
a rich law firm might decide to do it pro-bono, with the right case
Has anyone thought about this rationally?
82 people in three years...
That's a pretty small number of improper incarcerations compared to other improper incarcerations across this nation.
Roughly a person every month, from an agency that readily admits it can't detain citizens, yet does?
I guess it's ok until it's you being thrown in jail.
Is your freedom worth catching Jose and Pepe?
well maybe he should tell his cousins to stop gettin ed up. seriously, i mean the japanese were detained during WWII and I guess you'd also agree that it wasn't right because their lives were interrupted.
more than 30 ppl every year are locked up for crimes they didn't commit such as murder, or even framed by the police for drug related charges. I guess we should do away with the police and leave people alone to do whatever the they want huh.
more people have been later set free by DNA or other evidence after years false imprisonment than the 82 who were wrongfully detained, therefore getting rid of the prison system and freeing all the prisoners should be higher on your list before we get to immigration.
you're welcome to your opinion. i'm for nothing of the sort.
http://motherjones.com/politics/2011...ple-us-prisons
850 people exonerated since the 80's, sounds like a much bigger problem than 82 to me especially considering the amount of time they spent behind bars some of them on death row, and what about the ones who were executed? should we just not enforce the laws in our society?
both problems are perfectly serious. neither should be mildly tolerated. but pretending the only reasonable solution is to abolish LE and immigration enforcement, is absurd.
You're on a false premise there (YH)... the judicial certainly has the authority to charge you with a crime and remove your freedom while the case is investigated.
ICE has no such authority over american citizens.
Well that's what the government is trying to do, they do this preemptively getting ready to amnesty the out of a bunch of people. And they want you to at least be okay with it enough to not uprise or make too much fuss. Well if it means poor pablo won't be falsely imprisoned..
So then it should be the cops job, since entering illegally IS breaking the law. Then the cops can hold them while they are "investigated." Better?
The issue is not about not enforcing immigration enforcement. It's to have the accountability and oversight such that citizens don't have to spend a year in jail before they're released because they were wrongfully imprisoned.
Yes there should be oversight to go along with ACTUAL real enforcement, we need an overhaul of the system.
Cops already have the authority to detain somebody for committing a crime.
The problem here is when the cops are ready to release the citizen and ICE requests the person be held and it's actually jailed by ICE afterwards.
Part of the overhaul should include a very serious penalty for detaining a US citizen for over, say, 7 days. I understand clerical or computer errors, those can happen. But keeping a guy wrongfully detained for a year is ridiculous.
then add a few trillion to the debt and break the bank because some guys have been wrongfully detained for a of a lot longer than 7 days! It's part of law enforcement unfortunately. Nobody is right 100% of the time. out of the several hundred thousand that ICE deports each year, 82 cases ain't bad.
how magnanimous of you to be so willing to sacrifice the liberty of others on the altar of your insecurity.
you're doing it by being okay with locking people up. you were cool with innocents dying so that your pussy insecure ass didn't have to worry about the big bad murderer coming for you too. ha, pussy
If Congress deemed that ICE required the authority to imprison citizens to carry out their duties, then they would've included such authority. But so far they haven't.
I don't know what you consider your freedom worth, but chasing Pepe and Jose isn't worth a year of my life in jail. I think 7 days is a reasonable number to establish citizenship.
I'm against the death penalty.
Is chasing around violent offenders worth a year of your life in jail?
and I'm for better ins utional safeguards against US citizens being erroneously imprisoned. wanting LE and immigration to be better at what they do is a call for improvement, not elimination.
your suggestion that no problem worthy of a solution exists only highlights your low regard for the liberty you claim to protect.
We were chasing violent offenders before ICE even existed. You're not really helping your argument there.
But I'll answer the strawman question when Congress grants ICE broad authority to detain US citizens who otherwise wouldn't be detained by LE.
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