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    Bogans for the minimum? Can't believe I'm even pondering it.

    He did play pretty well in Chicago last year, relatively speaking. Cheap. Could be a spot starter until someone like Leonard or JA beats him out. Might be enough to get Spurs to amnesty RJ.

    Ugh ... but given the alternatives, a return of The Centerpiece isn't the worst possible ending.

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    a return of The Centerpiece isn't the worst possible ending.
    what a sad state of affairs...

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    Ugh ... but given the alternatives, a return of The Centerpiece isn't the worst possible ending.
    The only thing worse is him and Bonner starting on opening day.

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    The only thing worse is him and Bonner starting on opening day.
    Bonner starting is worse on its own.

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    Bonner starting is worse on its own.
    No. Any scenario that's worse than Bogans is a combination of Bogans and something else.

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    No. Any scenario that's worse than Bogans is a combination of Bogans and something else.

    just imagine the centerpiece of ,bonner and rj stacked es

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    No. Any scenario that's worse than Bogans is a combination of Bogans and something else.
    maybe theoretically but in the real world, you can't have less than 0.

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    If only in my dreams...

    PG Jacque Vaughn
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    maybe theoretically but in the real world, you can't have less than 0.
    Then you obviously missed KB's first tour here. He gives some coaches the illusion of defense and produces nothing, that's less than zero.

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    Then you obviously missed KB's first tour here. He gives some coaches the illusion of defense and produces nothing, that's less than zero.


    I wish I missed it. But if you are giving me a list of negatives and the first words out of your mouth are "Bonner starting", I'm already making sure there's a round in the chamber.

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    No news after his visit in Salt Lake City ?

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    It should be apparent to most by now, that Josh Howard doesn't want to be a Spur and that is fine with me. What is also apparent to me is the guy hasn't changed. If he wanted to be a Spur, he would've already signed. As a matter of fact, if he wanted to be anywhere he would've already signed someplace.

    The process of integrating into a new team, learning a new offensive and defensive scheme, on top of having to do it within the confines of a protracted training camp schedule, makes for an arduous challenge for any incoming new player (rookie or veteran)

    While other veteran NBA players seem to get that and have already signed somewhere, Howard, in the meantime, is content on taking his sweet time. This simply tells me that this guy STILL has a low BBIQ and his team commitment should be severely questioned.

    Again, I'm past the point where I'd like him on the Spurs. I'm just saying that, for whoever lands him, it doesn't appear that his behavior has changed. He still doesn't take his job seriously. Let the buyer beware.

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    It should be apparent to most by now, that Josh Howard doesn't want to be a Spur and that is fine with me. What is also apparent to me is the guy hasn't changed. If he wanted to be a Spur, he would've already signed. As a matter of fact, if he wanted to be anywhere he would've already signed someplace.

    The process of integrating into a new team, learning a new offensive and defensive scheme, on top of having to do it within the confines of a protracted training camp schedule, makes for an arduous challenge for any incoming new player (rookie or veteran)

    While other veteran NBA players seem to get that and have already signed somewhere, Howard, in the meantime, is content on taking his sweet time. This simply tells me that this guy STILL has a low BBIQ and his team commitment should be severely questioned.

    Again, I'm past the point where I'd like him on the Spurs. I'm just saying that, for whoever lands him, it doesn't appear that his behavior has changed. He still doesn't take his job seriously. Let the buyer beware.
    Yes to this entire post.

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    Josh Howard wants the most $$ he can squeeze out of an organization. The Spurs MAY have offered him pittance and he's hoping Utah believes he's worth more. Gotta believe a dumbass like Howard doesn't have much $$ left to speak of.

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    Josh Howard wants the most $$ he can squeeze out of an organization. The Spurs MAY have offered him pittance and he's hoping Utah believes he's worth more. Gotta believe a dumbass like Howard doesn't have much $$ left to speak of.
    At this point, I wouldn't want the guy if he were to play for free. If the Spurs have offered him a contract, I'll pull and tell him to go elsewhere. After all, for a guy who has only played in 53 games in 3 years, how motivated can he be?

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    So Josh Howard still hasnt made up his mind huh? I gotta agree with Senor, the guy is showing that he's still a low IQ idiot. At this point, I'd rather stick with RJ, who knows the system, than going with an idiot whos missing valuable training camp time in Howard....

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    we keep RJ ... like last off-season the only solid small forward who wants to play for the Spurs

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    we keep RJ ... like last off-season the only solid small forward who wants to play for the Spurs
    Agreed. Besides, at least this year we have the anti-RJ on the roster. A player seemingly with some tenacity, defensive prowess and hunger, Kawai Leonard.

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    Agreed. Besides, at least this year we have the anti-RJ on the roster. A player seemingly with some tenacity, defensive prowess and hunger, Kawai Leonard.
    Tenacity, defensive prowess and hunger wouldn't be fair to the team. We led the west in wins without Kawhi. -

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    Tenacity, defensive prowess and hunger wouldn't be fair to the team. We led the west in wins without Kawhi. -
    And we see how that turned out in the playoffs.

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    Holy , when is this guy going to make a decision?

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    Holy , when is this guy going to make a decision?
    He probably forgot which teams he's gotten offers from.

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    Holy , when is this guy going to make a decision?
    Whenever someone other than SA and Utah gives him the most $ and years...Gurantee he does not want to play for either of these teams

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