howcome?
With little fanfare, U.S. formally ends Iraq war
http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/world/5...netta.html.csp
Eight years later, Mohammed is perhaps the most widely quoted activist on women’s rights in Iraq. A resident of both Iraq and Canada, she travels internationally, speaks at universities and conferences and has received prestigious awards for her service. And yet her message remains little known outside Iraq.
One of her main talking points is this: Iraq is a more dangerous place for women than it was before the U.S. invasion and it is getting worse. Reports by international human rights groups support her observations. According to the 2011 Iraq summary report by Human Rights Watch: “The deterioration of security has promoted a rise in tribal customs and religiously-inflected political extremism, which have had a deleterious effect on women's rights, both inside and outside the home.”
http://photoblog.msnbc.msn.com/_news...oms-under-fire
2003 forum
mmm any similarities?
good article
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/htm...qimages15.html
While Vietnam gave us the Huey helicopter landing among rotor-washed palms, Iraq's icon is the Humvee rumbling through a dun-colored desert. The arc of the American experience in Iraq can be told through the collage from hope to barbarity, from swaggering invasion to quiet departure.
Those pictures capture the early celebration-by-defacement — the ebullient tearing down of murals, statues and mosaics of Saddam Hussein, at times aided by U.S. troops pleased that the initial thunder run to Baghdad had ended swiftly.
But the joy passed quickly, subsumed by wholesale looting of the capital and beheadings of those captured during a nascent insurgency, by Shiite uprisings and the Sunni Triangle, by haunting evidence of American-supervised humiliation and torture inside Abu Ghraib, and by bodies of Blackwater contractors hanging burned and beaten from a steel bridge over the Euphrates.
Beyond the images, the war has left a legacy on American politics and culture. There is the federal debt, inflated by an estimated $1 trillion spent on the war, along with 4,485 dead troops, a generation of young amputees, a fragile ally in the heart of the Arab Middle East and narrowed ambitions for American power.
"History will judge the decision to go into Iraq," President Obama said this week, then listed the achievements secured by the more than 1 million U.S. troops and civilians who have served there since March 2003.
4.0 = 0.4 ll
uhhh...they are both walls?mmm any similarities?
Nah. He's clearly mmmm'ing. Maybe they have a syrup or candy coating on them.
We're not done in Iraq. It's just going to be logistically harder to save our personnel and protect our assets left behind.
All part of Bush's plan.
Finally the Iraqis can stop welcoming us with open arms and blowing us kisses.
On wall was to keep people in. The other wall is to keep people out. Otherwise, they are just walls we should have on the southern border.
Putting aside your idiotic ignorance of geography, tell us how much your 2,000 mile wall would cost.
Of course there wasn't. That banner was for a warship returning to port.There was no "Mission Accomplished" banner
Do you think every ship returning to port does that?
Yes or no.
And I'm still waiting on your estimate.
How thick is the wall? How tall? What is the soil like? Will we just use a continuous footing or do we need piers? What grade of reinforcement do you want? What type of spacing? What type of concrete? Do we need it to go well below grade or typical? What about labor? Will their be restrictions on nationality? Where will the materials come from? Does hazard pay play a factor?
Answer all of these and I'll do the estimate for WC.
I'm with Chump on this one. A wall/fence is an incredibly stupid idea.
Agreed, but since he requested the estimate, I feel it's on him to supply the specs......that's how it works.
All the breathless and sappy coverage without one mention that we are leaving Iraq on a time table developed and initiated by President Bush, is Barack Obama's "Mission Accomplished" banner.
That was delayed a full day so dubya could appear on the flght deck. yes folks, GWB held up the ship to have his phot op..can anyone imagine the OUTRAGE had Obama done this?
Uh, no. Mic e Obama just took several millions of dollars worth of military and government assets to Hawaii because she's too impatient to travel with her husband who will, in short order, take several millions of dollars worth of military and government assets to Hawaii.
No, I can't imagine the outrage.
so you equate the first lady's travel expenses to troops being delayed another FULL day (after spending 6 months at sea) from their relatives... got it
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