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    I'm not claiming blind innocence on the part of the Blazers front office. They're absolutely dumbasses for agreeing to the extension. But I'm claiming Roy as disingenuous if he knew about his crap knees back then, especially because of what I recall about him ing that he deserved max money.

    If I could sell my car for $300,000 because I felt that was what it was worth, yes, I would. You're failing to see that my criticism is that Roy was being pretentious when he said that's what he felt he was worth if he knew how bad his knees worth. There's no way he should feel that way, hence why I was suggesting he may have been disingenuous. For example, I would be lying to myself if I thought a beat-up Ford Taurus with 150,000 miles on it and a shot engine was worth $300,000.

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    I'm not claiming blind innocence on the part of the Blazers front office. They're absolutely dumbasses for agreeing to the extension. But I'm claiming Roy as disingenuous if he knew about his crap knees back then, especially because of what I recall about him ing that he deserved max money.

    If I could sell my car for $300,000 because I felt that was what it was worth, yes, I would. You're failing to see that my criticism is that Roy was being pretentious when he said that's what he felt he was worth if he knew how bad his knees worth. There's no way he should feel that way, hence why I was suggesting he may have been disingenuous. For example, I would be lying to myself if I thought a beat-up Ford Taurus with 150,000 miles on it was worth $300,000.
    I completely understand what you are saying. We both know (I think) that your car isn't worth 300K. If you could pretend it was, and get that money, wouldn't you?

    How much effort should an employee put into ensuring the company who hires them isn't spending too much?

    I agree he probably knew he wouldn't make it to term, but so did the team doctors and you always ask for a lot more than you end up getting. If they pay you the larger price, good for you. They obviously think you're worth the risk.

    I don't think Brandon Roy knew anything the Blazers didn't know. There should be a stipulation in the way the insurance is structured to say that retirement has to be suggested by a group of physicians, and that might be the case. Otherwise anyone could do that.

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    I completely understand what you are saying. We both know (I think) that your car isn't worth 300K. If you could pretend it was, and get that money, wouldn't you?
    Honestly, no.

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    lmao lmao lmao

    but if it were kobe you'd be applauding the savy move imho

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    *cough*bull *cough*

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    Right, but could you do it dishonestly?

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    crofl crofl now that the 04 piston love on this site has gone away everyone on this got with me. " i wouldn't take 63 million dollars if someone offered it to me because i don't deserve it " laughable.

    if you want to be technical, who really DOES "deserve" 63 million dollars? get off your high horse

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    ^I'm with Y on this one.

    Jammie is a pompous ass & a terrible windbag.

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    You are a rare gem then.

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    Real talk

    Are the Blazers cursed?

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    Real talk

    Are the Blazers cursed?
    No, because curses don't exist.

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    No, because curses don't exist.
    I don't know, I am sure they have cursed a few times in the past few years.

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    No, because curses don't exist.
    I think Oden, Bowie and Roy beg to differ

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    "Ernie" was cursed on this morning's episode of "My Three Sons."

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    Curly, you ever lose your sons to social services for pedophile reasons?

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    Just go back and your mother some more, Pass.

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    Why don't you let go of those kids you invited over to your house to play "Locked Up: 20 to life & under 5"

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    Roy gets the money because the Blazers used the amnesty clause on him. That's how it works--the player comes off your salary cap, but you still have to pay the amount left on his contract.

    It has nothing to do with his medical retirement. He did file for medical retirement, but that process takes a full season to complete, and the Blazers elected not to wait. Instead of waiting that year out, they used the amnesty clause on him immediately so they could sign Crawford. In other words, Roy is getting paid for the exact same reason that RJeff would be paid if the Spurs amniested him.

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    *edit* double post
    Last edited by DubMcDub; 12-16-2011 at 02:08 PM.

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    I heard you the first time Dub!

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    O & 44!!! Now, go back &
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    Why don't you let go of those kids you invited over to your house to play "Locked Up: 20 to life & under 5"
    Just go back and your mother some more.

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    Just go back and your mother some more.

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    *cough*bull *cough*
    Let's say the car's true value is $500. Would I sell it for $600? Sure. $700? Yup. $1000? Maybe but I'd feel guilty about it. Sell a $500 car for $300,000? No, not in good conscience.

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    If some dumbass wanted to buy my clunker for 300 grand I'd do it in a flash.

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    crofl crofl now that the 04 piston love on this site has gone away everyone on this got with me. " i wouldn't take 63 million dollars if someone offered it to me because i don't deserve it " laughable.

    if you want to be technical, who really DOES "deserve" 63 million dollars? get off your high horse
    I don't have a problem if a person wins the lottery and becomes a multi-millionaire, whether they "deserve" it or not. It doesn't have to do with being "deserving."

    My criticism of Roy relates to negotiating and campaigning for a max contract if he knew about his knees. And I reiterate that's "if" he did in fact know at the time.

    As for your feeling towards me... uh ok. I don't even know who you are. Who are you anyway. Don't recognize your screen name. Don't know your opinion on things. Shrugs. Even if I did, please allow me not to give a what an anonymous sports forum poster thinks of me. You can " " all you want. I will continue not yo give a . Sounds like a good plan.

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