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    How did the corporate knowledge look?
    It's been such a factor in our last 4 years success.

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    20 min - 12 pt, 5 Rebounds, 50 % on 3's, 4-4 FT, 1 ST

    I'll take that awful all year.
    The regular season isn't the problem, it's the post-season where Bonner is a mental midget.

    HTH.

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    RJ didn't seem to care the the Spurs saved him from the amnesty pool. For someone who was just granted mercy he didn't show much appreciation. Leonard looked like a guy who was playing for a starting spot...and supplanting RJ shouldn't be that difficult if he progresses forward from here. Oh...and a big lol to all of you that said Parker was RJ's problem. What was the excuse last night? Anyone?
    Rj sucks, yet some people want to believe that he has strengths that would shine without TP. In reality all of Rj's strengths are relative to his weaknesses. The guy is a flat out bum who looked absolutely terrible on defense last night. At least this year we have Kawhi to back him up.

    On another note I can't wait to see what F/C the FO adds. Currently if someone goes down we have Novak. That's not an option. We need five bigs capable of at least playing. Even more so this year because of the schedule.

    Not sure what they're going to do. I would have been thrilled to get Murphy. The Spurs just continue to do nothing. It's sad...

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    The regular season isn't the problem, it's the post-season where Bonner is a mental midget.

    HTH.
    Bonner may help in spurs post season failures but he sure as isnt the primary reason for recent post season woes for the spurs..

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    Enjoy your regular season Bonner on offense (and ignore how Scola glided right through him).

    Bonner Brigade do what Bonner Brigade do.
    The thing you overlook is that Scola regularly "glides through" and around first-line players that guard hiim as well. That's why he's a premier PF on offense.

    NOt too surprising that Bonner can't shut him down which is what you seem to expect. Scola matched against Blair would have been even worse, don't you think?

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    It's when you start expecting him to be something he isn't that people go overboard.


    Don't get me started on RJ. That dude is a mental midget and fragile. He was brought here to be aggressive offensively, take the ball to the whole, give rebounding from the 3 position and play solid D. He's done none of that consistently and looks lost.
    Also applies to RJ.

    Wrong. He was brought here to play in the Spurs offensive system which puts the SF way out on the wing and expects him to shoot 3s first and drive if the defensive player comes out too aggressively. He was never expected to be a shut down defensive player in his entire career.


    RJ was't the player to do that but he re-tooled his offensive game to meet Pop's requirements on offense and actually had a 40% avg. on 3s and 47% on FGs.

    We're comparing him as a replacement to Bruce Bowen of defensive fame, but Bruce's offensive output wasn't nearly as good. His FG% was 5% pts less and 3pt only 1% better. His average was 6PPG but his last season was a pitiful 2.8. And his rebounding was negligible (2.8).

    We need to put memories of Bruce behind us and look at what RJ is and has done as the 4th option.


    As the fourth option he came up with a 11ppg avg and 4 rebounds. Lots of teams would take that for their fourth guy in the pecking order of their starters.

    If he doesn't perform as aggressively on offense or as well on defense as we would like, that is due more to our demanding expectations that every Spur perform at an impossiblly elite level rather than a sober analysis of his abilities or his role on the team.
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    Anyone got more detailed info on Anderson, Leonard, and Joseph?

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    back to the game:

    Pop is still having me worried with Splitter. With the added bonus of McDonald's bleary-eyed unfunny water-carrying:

    From the EN:



    Splitter was not injured most of the time. Nothing that would have kept him on the bench most of the year. He had a tough year because Pop made it a tough year.

    He didn't dress for 9 games if Yahoo's boxes are correct. He played 60 and had another 13 non-appearances credited as DNP-CDs, which rings true to my memory. AND in the playoffs he spent the first 3 games with DNP-CDs on the bench.

    RJ had a uva year, Splitter was hurt all season . . . the hits keep coming.
    And there I was happy to hear the little blurb about the coaching staff recognizing that they did a poor job coaching in the playoffs. Does it take 3 games of Bonner/Blair being abused by Randolph/Gasol to finally get Splitter off the bench? Is Pop just deluded? What other tale is he going to spin - Splitter - hurt all season

    Both Bonner and RJ are expensive pos since Novak could do what Bonner does for cheaper.

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    RJ didn't seem to care the the Spurs saved him from the amnesty pool. For someone who was just granted mercy he didn't show much appreciation. Leonard looked like a guy who was playing for a starting spot...and supplanting RJ shouldn't be that difficult if he progresses forward from here. Oh...and a big lol to all of you that said Parker was RJ's problem. What was the excuse last night? Anyone?

    Why do any of you waste keystrokes on Bonner? He is what he is and that's not going to change. Moving on.
    Actually amnestying RJ probably would have been a favor to him. Unless I'm missing something he gets the salary the Spurs promised him + he might go to a team of his choice for another million or two.

    Worse case I guess a team with cap bids on him but he still gets that salary + he plays for a team that probably isn't too concerned with winning anyways.

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    Any of this stuff with Splitter fall on the shoulders of Tim Duncan? Surely he has a voice in the front office. Does he just toe the line?

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    I think the lineups during the regular season will work somewhat like this.

    Starters

    Parker: 33 mins
    Ginobili: 30 mins
    Jefferson: 27 minutes
    Duncan: 28 mins
    Splitter: 19 mins

    Bench

    Ford: 15 mins
    Neal: 23 mins
    Blair: 24 mins
    Bonner: 23 mins
    Anderson: 18 mins

    Garbage Time

    Kawhi
    Green

    Will hardly see the floor

    Novak
    Joseph

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    I think the lineups during the regular season will work somewhat like this.

    Starters

    Parker: 33 mins
    Ginobili: 30 mins
    Jefferson: 27 minutes
    Duncan: 28 mins
    Splitter: 19 mins

    Bench

    Ford: 15 mins
    Neal: 23 mins
    Blair: 24 mins
    Bonner: 23 mins
    Anderson: 18 mins

    Garbage Time

    Kawhi

    Green

    Will hardly see the floor

    Novak
    Joseph
    I don't think this will be the case. Leonard will play. Also Splitter will get more than 19mpg.

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    I think the lineups during the regular season will work somewhat like this.

    Starters

    Parker: 33 mins
    Ginobili: 30 mins
    Jefferson: 27 minutes
    Duncan: 28 mins
    Splitter: 19 mins

    Bench

    Ford: 15 mins
    Neal: 23 mins
    Blair: 24 mins
    Bonner: 23 mins
    Anderson: 18 mins

    Garbage Time

    Kawhi
    Green

    Will hardly see the floor

    Novak
    Joseph
    Surely you jest - hopefully Splitter sees more time than Bonner/Blair. I don't see why he can't play 34-36 mins in single games. And what's going to happen with those back-to-back-to-backs. FO must get a big - they can't go into the season with this pitiful rotation. Didn't Parker say that a big man was the priority?

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    I think the lineups during the regular season will work somewhat like this.

    Starters

    Parker: 33 mins
    Ginobili: 30 mins
    Jefferson: 27 minutes
    Duncan: 28 mins
    Splitter: 19 mins

    Bench

    Ford: 15 mins
    Neal: 23 mins
    Blair: 24 mins
    Bonner: 23 mins
    Anderson: 18 mins

    Garbage Time

    Kawhi
    Green

    Will hardly see the floor

    Novak
    Joseph
    Leonard only getting garbage time? What are you smoking?

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    Surely you jest - hopefully Splitter sees more time than Bonner/Blair. I don't see why he can't play 34-36 mins in single games. And what's going to happen with those back-to-back-to-backs. FO must get a big - they can't go into the season with this pitiful rotation. Didn't Parker say that a big man was the priority?
    Under Pops Splitter will not play more than 25 minutes a game. Even on days where Timmy is resting Splitter will not go over 30 mins. Pop has more trust in Bonner and Blair which is pathetic. As for Leonard I can see him getting maybe 8-10 mins of playing time. I think Pops will give him the Devin Brown treatment.

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    im very impressed on James Anderson! Seems very confident, can handle the ball very well, athletic, looks good on iso plays.

    This kid can be great one day.

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    Why trade Hill for someone to play garbage minutes? Hopefully Tiago plays more than Bonner and Blair....

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    Pop will play Tiago enough I predict ... no more excuses left

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