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Rodgers would absolutely have to tank.
Even then, Brady could also beat out Brees.
Rodgers would absolutely have to tank.
Even then, Brady could also beat out Brees.
Yeah Brees and Brady are pretty even across the board. Both are 2A and 2B. Rodgers has the edge as he should.
Brees posting MVP-worthy numbers
Rodgers' season is excellent, but assault on Marino's passing record may be better
- There is no wrong answer, not now, not after the Green Bay Packers' perfect season ended with a subpar outing by the team and its quarterback against Kansas City. If the Packers had run the table and finished the regular season 16-0, Aaron Rodgers would have been the unanimous choice as the NFL's most valuable player. There would have been no debate.
As it stands, Rodgers probably will win the league's most prestigious individual award anyway. He has had a fantastic season. It is his award to lose.
But Drew Brees is equally deserving. If New Orleans wins its last two regular-season games, against Atlanta and Carolina, and -- as expected -- Brees obliterates Dan Marino's 27-year-old record for passing yards in a season, I will be hard-pressed to vote for Rodgers over Brees.
[+] EnlargeTom Dahlin/Getty ImagesHe's been overlooked before and may be again this year, but Drew Brees is putting up MVP-worthy numbers.
That record is football gold. Marino's 1984 season is the standard for quarterbacks. He was so dominant that year, against defenses that were not hamstrung the way they are today, that no one has surpassed it. Even with rules protecting quarterbacks and prohibiting contact to receivers after five yards, Peyton Manning never topped Marino. Neither has Tom Brady. Neither, so far, has Brees, who came within 15 yards of matching the record in 2008 and is the only other player in league history to throw for at least 5,000 yards in a season.
Marino threw for 5,084 yards the season he defined quarterback excellence. Brees is going to sail past that.
The numbers in Brees' favor are staggering. With two games to go, he has thrown for 4,780 yards -- the most in NFL history through 14 games -- and is on pace for 5,462 yards. In a season in which he is averaging 341.4 passing yards per game, Brees needs to average only 152.5 yards in the next two games to break the record. Only three teams have held Brees to fewer than 300 passing yards, and none did better than Tampa Bay, which gave up 258 yards in Week 9.
After completing 32 of 40 passes, a whopping 80 percent, against Minnesota on Sunday, Brees has completed a league-high 71.5 percent of his passes this season. He set the league record for completion percentage (70.6) in 2009.
Brees has a team-record and career-high 37 touchdown passes, including five each against the Vikings and Indianapolis, and four against the Giants in Week 12. He has thrown for a touchdown in 41 consecutive games and needs to do so in six more games to tie John Unitas for the most consecutive games with a touchdown pass in NFL history. (Brees also has a streak of 34 games with at least 20 completions, an NFL record.)
With 412 yards against Minnesota, Brees has 11 300-yard passing games, eclipsing the NFL record he (2008, 2011) and Oakland's Rich Gannon (2002) shared. He has thrown for at least 300 yards in the last five games, one shy of the record for consecutive 300-yard games held by Gannon (2002), St. Louis's Kurt Warner (2000) and San Francisco's Steve Young (1998).
Brees has gone five consecutive games without an interception -- he has thrown 11 all season. Since their embarrassing Week 8 loss to St. Louis, the Saints have won six straight games and have a chance to tie a franchise record, set in 2009 with Brees at the helm, with 13 wins this season.
"Drew's having, in my mind, an MVP season, there's no doubt about that," Atlanta coach Mike Smith told reporters in New Orleans on Thursday. "He's distributing the ball extremely well. They're a top-10 team in running the football, the No. 1 team in total yards, No. 2 in points. Just to watch him operate, he looks very comfortable back there running the offense. It's just amazing to watch him go out and run that offense. I hope he's at his highest level because if he plays any better I don't know if there's any way to stop him."
Smith should know. In Week 10, Brees carved up Smith's Falcons, completing 69.8 percent of his passes for 322 yards, two touchdowns and no interceptions. But that was nothing compared to what he did at Minnesota last week. According to the Elias Sports Bureau, Brees became the first player ever with 400 passing yards, five passing touchdowns and an 80 percent completion rate in a game.
Like Brees, Rodgers has been outstanding, and he probably will be most voters' selection for MVP. The Packers are 13-1, and Rodgers has thrown 40 touchdown passes and just six interceptions and is on the brink of setting an NFL record for passer rating in a season. Rodgers has been efficient, accurate, relentless and consistently good. One bad game against the Chiefs doesn't change that.
On Thursday, Brees said that he hasn't given the MVP award much thought this season, "because turning on TV, watching Aaron Rodgers light it up, he seems like a pretty obvious choice," he said.
But the door is now open for Brees, who deserved to win it in 2006 but lost out to LaDainian Tomlinson, who set an NFL record for touchdowns (31) and points (186). Brees also deserved to win it in 2008 and 2009 but lost out to the Colts' Manning, who threw for 4,002 and then 4,500 yards.
Brees is as image-conscious as Manning and, though he would never admit it, being the league's MVP would mean something to him. Speaking about the award in general, he called winning it "significant" and "a tremendous honor."
Brees probably won't win the award this year, either, but he should. Marino's record is special. Brees' will be, too.
Rodgers vs Bears
21-29 283 5 tds 0 INTs.
Rodgers threw his last pass with 14:55 left in the 4th so no stat padding.
now sons for any of you Brees haters that right there is usually 50% of his interceptions. passes that are dead on, but the receiver can't hold on to it and it bounces into the air. that is at least the 5th or 6th one this season.
Brees comes back into the game up 22 with 5 minutes left to stat pad to the record.
I guess you could say the LouNecks wanted to see the record broken at home.
Notin rong wit dat i guess.
son he came back in to throw 30 yards to get the record against our biggest rival. it NEEDED to be done tonight against the Falcons and their ghetto ass, talking (with nothing to back it up) fan base!Brees comes back into the game up 22 with 5 minutes left to stat pad to the record.
I guess you could say the LouNecks wanted to see the record broken at home.
Notin rong wit dat i guess.
Not sure how MVP isn't wrapped up at this point.
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Rodgers should win the MVP. Besides, who cares if Brees can win the Super Bowl MVP.
BR, when you get a chance please do a final season comparison.
Off the top of my head, I know that Brees led the NFL in TD passes with 46, and he broke multiple NFL single season records:
Passing Yards
Completion Percentage
Number of Completions
Games of over 300+ passing yards
Games of over 350+ passing yards
Games of 5+ Touchdown passes
I don't think Rodgers broke any NFL records this season
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How hard can it be for Aaron Rodgers if his backup throws for 480 and SIX TOUCHDOWNS vs. Detroit trying hard to win?! MVP? Really? System?
FINAL STATS
MVP
Drew Brees
Passing Yards - 5,476 (1st)
Touchdowns - 46 (1st)
Interceptions - 14
Sacks - 24
Completions - 468 (1st)
Completion Percentage - 71.2% (1st)
Notable NFL records broken
Single Season Passing Yards (broke Marino's 27 year old record)
Single Season Completion Percentage (broke his own 2009 record)
Single Season Total Completions
13 Games of over 300+ single season passing yards (broke his own record)
7 Games of over 350+ single season passing yards
Games of 5+ Touchdown passes
Single Season Total Team Offensive Yards - 7,474
Single Season Total Team First Downs - 416
Runner Up
Tom Brady
Passing Yards - 5,235 - (2nd)
Touchdowns - 39 - (4th)
Interceptions - 13
Sacks - 32
Completions - 401 - (3rd)
Completion Percentage - 65.6% - (3rd)
3rd Place
Aaron Rodgers
Passing Yards - 4,643 - (4th)
Touchdowns - 45 - (2nd)
Interceptions - 6
Sacks - 36
Completions - 343 - (6th)
Completion Percentage - 68.3% - (2nd)
* I had Aaron Rodgers as runner up for the MVP up until today when Matt Flynn exposed the system. In result, Tom Brady should be the runner up.
Last edited by BRHornet45; 01-01-2012 at 09:55 PM.
Brady also broke Marinos record.
PRivers became only the 4th QB to pass for 4,500+ four straight years.
This final Sundays games had all kinds of insane pass yardage stats.
Yardage has increased with the rule changes.
Son props to Brees, but lets see if he can Bowl it.
but he didn't surpass Brees and Brees broke it in 15 games. Brady needed 16 games.
son that's not true at all. Rivers threw for 4,314 this season, 4,710 in 10, 4,254 in 09, and 4,009 in 08.
Not exactly sure what you're talking about there. to put things into perspective, over the last 4 years Brees has 19,553 passing yards and Rivers has 17,287.
and numerous teams, like Green Bay were playing against teams fighting for the playoffs. so the numbers weren't in "garbage time".
and son just like in every other sport in the world the players get bigger, stronger, and faster every decade. the same argument can be used against guys like Marino or Babe Ruth for racking up stats against smaller and weaker talented players and less black players.
thanks son. he has led us there before and that is the ultimate goal. God bless
school is out now
They quoted it during the game. Perhaps Rivers is only the 4th to do 4000+ 4 years straight. Yes son i believe Brees was one of the 4.
Maybe only the Saints game had no playoff implications and thus was a pure "stat padder".and numerous teams, like Green Bay were playing against teams fighting for the playoffs. so the numbers weren't in "garbage time".
well son when you kick the out of everyone in the second half of the season, people tend to get mad and make up silly excuses.
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