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    We've got nothing. Unless this team ante's up and moves Parker, its hard to see us improving in the front court. Blair has to be thrilled.

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    Barron Davis just sigend w/ the Knicks.

    They will start him, Melo, Stoudamire, Chandler and (insert SG here). They should be nice...

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    Barron Davis just sigend w/ the Knicks.

    They will start him, Melo, Stoudamire, Chandler and (insert SG here). They should be nice...
    Landry Fields would be their SG and he is solid...

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Landry_Fields
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    When I look at your description of positions Dice still is a PF ... he never lost his midrange jumper.
    Ok, I'll give you that. But he doesn't really have the drive to the basket skills so he's part PF part C.

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    Landry Fields would be their SG and he is solid...

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Landry_Fields
    that's even worse...

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    Barron Davis just sigend w/ the Knicks.

    They will start him, Melo, Stoudamire, Chandler and (insert SG here). They should be nice...
    Knicks get Baron Davis. Charlotte gets Biyombo and Mullens. Mavs get Sean Williams. The list goes on and on. I'm just feeling kinda left out here, and it reminded me of an old song. (Offensive content warning.)


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    *sighhhhhhhhhhhhh*

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    Knicks get Baron Davis. Charlotte gets Biyombo and Mullens. Mavs get Sean Williams. The list goes on and on. I'm just feeling kinda left out here, and it reminded me of an old song.
    Spurs fans, we need to quit whining!!!!

    Do you really think the FO is doing NOTHING! They may not be willing to overpay mediocre players that we all think would work but I wouldn't blame them.

    If you worked your way to becoming a multi-millionaire (by hard work and frugal business decisions) and you had a team that is paying TD what he's getting at his age, a SG who's old and comtemplating retirement, a group of young, untested guys who can't play defense due to size and/or mentality and don't look like they're gonna be anything near as good as what you've just experienced for the past 10 years and more importanly, no real way to entice any quality free agents to your city (other than the Riverwalk and Fiesta Texas and the same $ everyone else is offering) what would you do?

    Let the year play out with the team being mediocre (6-8 seed) then lose in the 1st round, let TD and MG retire and send them off with class and style (and then perhaps trade your decent PG while he still has value), then be a lottery team for the next 3-4 years and work the draft once you get higher picks

    OR

    spend like crazy and offer guys like Josh Howard or Tyson Chandler moster contracts that will take you WELL into the luxury tax area only to be medicre team for the next 4-7 years without every really improving or every being lousy enough to draft elite players?
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    Do you really think the FO is doing NOTHING!
    If that was a question, then yes, I do think that. They've given up.

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    Hayes signed a 4-yr, $21 million deal, but an abnormality was revealed in heart test. Subsequent tests were taken but results were unknown.
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    RT @sam_amick: Shocker in Sacto: Kings GM Geoff Petrie releases statement saying contract of F Chuck Hayes voided after he failed physical


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    Dalembert's camp has been talking with Houston and exploring possible sign and trades elsewhere w/ Kings, but now there is a more dire need.
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    There is a basketball ripple effect here, however, and it would appear free agent center Sam Dalembert is a possibility again in Sacto.

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    If that was a question, then yes, I do think that. They've given up.
    They're being smart.

    They're waiting till the team is bad enough to draft high and are hoping to find another group of 3 young, talented players that will take them back to the Championship.

    It happend before. Remember when TD was trying to get Jason Kidd to come to SA; and he ended up going elsewhere? What happened after that? the FO scouted the Euroleagues and took a chance on a 19 yr old PG nobody had ever heard of. And the gamble worked - that PG ended up being a Finals MVP.

    That's the Spurs model. As a Spurs fan, that's YOUR model (mine too).

    Let's quit complaining, get behind the FO, believe in their ability to do it all again, and support the team through what will probably be a miserable existence for the next 3 to 5.

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    The Spurs need to have their doctors take a look at Chuck Hayes. If he can pass a physical, I'm all for signing him. He's a midget but he's a great defender -- probably the best post defender in the league.

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    They're being smart.

    They're waiting till the team is bad enough to draft high and are hoping to find another group of 3 young, talented players that will take them back to the Championship.

    It happend before. Remember when TD was trying to get Jason Kidd to come to SA; and he ended up going elsewhere? What happened after that? the FO scouted the Euroleagues and took a chance on a 19 yr old PG nobody had ever heard of. And the gamble worked - that PG ended up being a Finals MVP.

    That's the Spurs model. As a Spurs fan, that's YOUR model (mine too).

    Let's quit complaining, get behind the FO, believe in their ability to do it all again, and support the team through what will probably be a miserable existence for the next 3 to 5.
    Then they should make trades and get rid of the good players for draft picks and you prospects. Were not going to get a high pick even if we don't sign another big. At the very least offer a player like T. Murphy a contract for one year like the Lakers did(Murphy signed a one-year deal for the veteran's minimum, worth $1,352,181). Meanwhile we do nothing...

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    They're not being smart, they're being forced, as they were in your example. Right now, they're being forced to bide their time. Even the most hardcore supporters have to admit how disappointing this abbreviated offseason has gone. We've made one lonely upgrade which has yet to be proven, although it won't take much to upgrade over RJ, and have not even remotely addressed the biggest need.

    I've always watched as many games as possible and this season will be no different, but instead of steady and determined optimism, I now will watch only because I always have and to see how the new guys blossom.

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    The Spurs need to have their doctors take a look at Chuck Hayes. If he can pass a physical, I'm all for signing him. He's a midget but he's a great defender -- probably the best post defender in the league.
    Wow spurs are literally living on a prayer this free agency period. This is easily the worsted free agency that i can remember in like ten years

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    Spurs have took chances on players with medical issues before (Blair most recently)

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    Then they should make trades and get rid of the good players for draft picks and you prospects. Were not going to get a high pick even if we don't sign another big. At the very least offer a player like T. Murphy a contract for one year like the Lakers did(Murphy signed a one-year deal for the veteran's minimum, worth $1,352,181). Meanwhile we do nothing...
    They're not trading Parker yet as that would be "obvious" and disrespectful to TD and MG. One more year is what Tim wants, so that's what he'll get.

    And the Lakers can sign a player like Murphy to the min. But for him to come to SA, he'd probably want more. Players come to SA after they have exhausted ways to get to more attractive locations.

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    The Spurs need to have their doctors take a look at Chuck Hayes. If he can pass a physical, I'm all for signing him. He's a midget but he's a great defender -- probably the best post defender in the league.
    Amen. He will not block many shots, but will rebound and play solid post defense.

    I still don't see how he manned the post while filling in for Yao Ming during his injury-plagued absences.

    Certainly worth a look. Is he healthy?

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    even if they signed Hayes in this fever dream scenario . . . why would Pop even play him?

    "Playing Chuck Hayes wouldn't be fair to the team or his aorta. Next time don't miss camp and I won't pretend like you were hurt all year long." -

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    They're not trading Parker yet as that would be "obvious" and disrespectful to TD and MG. One more year is what Tim wants, so that's what he'll get.

    And the Lakers can sign a player like Murphy to the min. But for him to come to SA, he'd probably want more. Players come to SA after they have exhausted ways to get to more attractive locations.
    What is disrespectful to TD is the fact that the FO surrounds him with the worst bigs in the league.

    The Spurs could have got Murphy because they could have offered him more than LA. If not him though someone else. One thing for sure is you don't bring back the same team that got stomped in the 1st round by the eighth seed. Oh wait they're not because were losing Dice. Compound this all with giving the fans expectations of a renewed defense this year. You know when Pop set a goal of being a top 7 defense. Not chance in while bringing back a depleted front court.

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    I don't get why the Spurs aren't even taking fliers on guys with potential. Instead, they invite guys with scoliosis and whatnot to camp. I was looking at last years D-League all-stars and one center stood out to me, Sean Williams. He's a defensive ace that was averaging like 2.5 blocks per game at one point and over 12 RPG. He was a one time 1st round draft pick for the Nets who had some disciplinary issues and so played abroad and in the D League. Seems to be a low-risk high reward guy. So guess who picks him up? That's right, the ing Mavericks. They just agreed to a deal with the guy about 5 hours ago.

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    I don't get why the Spurs aren't even taking fliers on guys with potential. Instead, they invite guys with scoliosis and whatnot to camp. I was looking at last years D-League all-stars and one center stood out to me, Sean Williams. He's a defensive ace that was averaging like 2.5 blocks per game at one point and over 12 RPG. He was a one time 1st round draft pick for the Nets who had some disciplinary issues and so played abroad and in the D League. Seems to be a low-risk high reward guy. So guess who picks him up? That's right, the ing Mavericks. They just agreed to a deal with the guy about 5 hours ago.
    back2back:


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    lol, gay.

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    Think you gonna win a ring with this guy?



    Lmao, didnt think so.

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    Then they should make trades and get rid of the good players for draft picks and you prospects. Were not going to get a high pick even if we don't sign another big. At the very least offer a player like T. Murphy a contract for one year like the Lakers did(Murphy signed a one-year deal for the veteran's minimum, worth $1,352,181). Meanwhile we do nothing...
    Instead of looking at it thru Spur fan's eyes, look at it thru Murphy's eyes: Hmmm, sign with the Lakers, or Spurs. Who has a better chance to win, Lakers or Spurs. Try being a little more realistic.

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