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    Aside from the other points made in my previous post regarding Duncan's decline, if there was ever another sure sign of how his skills have declined, this would be it. Opposing coaches and players know realize that they do not have to send the standard "extra" defender to slow him down.

    Again, this is not a slam on our future HOFer, it's simply factual evidence that we've all witnessed. It's called the natural decline of all athletes.
    Nobody is calling Duncan the best player on the team. It's pretty clear that he has lost a step in every way as 35 year old bigmen do. But someone calling him "not viable" is plain re ed. Tim is still a very good player and still at 35 years old in the upper tier of Centers in this league.

    He isn't the best player or even close to it anymore and that's fine. He is still a very good player.

    Going on about how he doesn't get double teams, or he's lost a step defensively, or can't pull down as many rebounds, or can't score as many points is just re ed at this point. Everyone understands that he is a s of his former self but that doesn't mean he can't play the game at a high level. He isn't the problem and has never been and nobody with half a brain is expecting Duncan to do anymore than 13 and 10 with the limited minutes he receives.

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    I find it very hard to believe that the same FO that garnered 4 championships in 8 years can't find a way to scout talent.

    If they're not doing anything, I doubt it is due to effort. It is most likely due to cir stance. Again, we don't know who the FO is talking to but right now, the Spurs are in DECLINE. That's the entire team.

    Again, whether you're a star player or a role/bench player, would you rather play for the Lakers, Heat, Mavs, Clippers, Knicks, Thunder or Spurs? Spurs are the oldest team in the league in a city that is great for some but lacks big time glitz and attraction.

    it is what it is...

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    Nobody is calling Duncan the best player on the team. It's pretty clear that he has lost a step in every way as 35 year old bigmen do. But someone calling him "not viable" is plain re ed. Tim is still a very good player and still at 35 years old in the upper tier of Centers in this league.

    He isn't the best player or even close to it anymore and that's fine. He is still a very good player.

    Going on about how he doesn't get double teams, or he's lost a step defensively, or can't pull down as many rebounds, or can't score as many points is just re ed at this point. Everyone understands that he is a s of his former self but that doesn't mean he can't play the game at a high level. He isn't the problem and has never been and nobody with half a brain is expecting Duncan to do anymore than 13 and 10 with the limited minutes he receives.
    No one is debating whether or not Duncan is still a very good player. We all know that he still is. The point is he cannot do the heavy lifting for this franchise, on both ends of the court, anymore and he shouldn't have to. There should be enough additional frontline support on the roster to offset whatever diminished production and skills Duncan has left.

    The fact is that is not the case. And the FO has to assume the blame for that. After all Duncan has done for this franchise, it's a shame that they've betrayed him in this fashion.

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    On a serious tip. With Dice leaving, do we more money to go get Dalembert an Humpries?

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    On a serious tip. With Dice leaving, do we more money to go get Dalembert an Humpries?
    No. You keep that offensive slug Jefferson and call it an offseason. For a franchise that supposedly makes all the right moves, I can't think of one in the last 2 years.

    Another wasted offseason of oppurtunities passing the Spurs by.

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    ESPNSteinLine Marc Stein
    ESPN web link to Arron Afflalo reaching terms on five-year, $43 million deal to stay with Nuggets: es.pn/tJH8c7

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    Yes. He's probably headed to Knicks. RT @rtking10 any truth to the rumor that Novak was released?

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    The New Orleans Hornets announced today that they have requested waivers on center David Andersen.

    The Hornets training camp roster now stands at 16.

    Read more: http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap...#ixzz1h2BzJWtX

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    Could we have gotten BJ mullens? it was for a 2nd rnd pick and cash.

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    The New Orleans Hornets announced today that they have requested waivers on center David Andersen.

    The Hornets training camp roster now stands at 16.

    Read more: http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap...#ixzz1h2BzJWtX
    I know we won't just settle for any big man, but worse case scenarion Andersen could help. he has a decent a shot and size

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    right, let's sign Ajinca and call it a day.

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    The Spurs need to have their doctors take a look at Chuck Hayes. If he can pass a physical, I'm all for signing him. He's a midget but he's a great defender -- probably the best post defender in the league.
    I would love it if SA could get Hayes. I've talked about him since his high school days.

    I can't get a read on just how serious or not his health condition is. Sounds like he wants to play and is going to do whatever to get healthy again. Also wants to be around to play and watch his 4 year old son grow up. On one hand it sounds like it could be serious and on the other it's just something he can get fixed and be back on the court again. Very confusing comments from all in the know.

    I would hope the Spurs have been on the phone to find out just what the case is though.

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    Darrell Arthur will miss the entire 2011-12 season with a torn right Achilles.

    the Grizzlies already have been very thin in the front court, now they are reduced to only Zach and Gasol.
    they will make some moves for bigs. they do have the trade assets to make this happen. (Mayo, Henry, Vasquez, pick)
    send them Blair to reunite with his buddy Young.
    get a 2012 1st rounder for him.
    replace Blair with Lawal. (what he can't deliver on offense, he will compensate on defense)

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    Nobody is going to sign Hayes until he can pass his physical and once he's able to clear that hurdle I doubt 3yrs 9mil (the max we can offer) will be enough to land a guy who just got 24 mil.

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    Nobody is going to sign Hayes until he can pass his physical and once he's able to clear that hurdle I doubt 3yrs 9mil (the max we can offer) will be enough to land a guy who just got 24 mil.
    The Rockets on Monday made inquiries about the prognosis of former Rockets forward Chuck Hayes to determine if his medical condition might allow him to be a free-agent option again, a person with knowledge of the talks said. Houston Chronicle

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    Darrell Arthur will miss the entire 2011-12 season with a torn right Achilles.

    the Grizzlies already have been very thin in the front court, now they are reduced to only Zach and Gasol.
    they will make some moves for bigs. they do have the trade assets to make this happen. (Mayo, Henry, Vasquez, pick)
    send them Blair to reunite with his buddy Young.
    get a 2012 1st rounder for him.
    replace Blair with Lawal. (what he can't deliver on offense, he will compensate on defense)
    The Grizzlies are preparing an offer sheet for Charlotte Bobcats restricted free agent Dante Cunningham, and team officials have held trade discussions with the Philadelphia 76ers as a response to forward Darrell Arthur’s season-ending Achilles injury. Memphis Commercial Appeal

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    Nobody is going to sign Hayes until he can pass his physical and once he's able to clear that hurdle I doubt 3yrs 9mil (the max we can offer) will be enough to land a guy who just got 24 mil.
    The Spurs can bring him in for a private physical. If he passes, then offer him a contract on the spot. But I agree that if it becomes public knowledge that his condition is not serious then teams will be lining up to offer him sacks of money.

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    I'm still in disbelief that the Spurs don't have a plan of some sort. Every$#%&body knows we are not ready to face this brutal schedule without some help in the front line. There is no way an organization with our success isn't trying everything they possibly can to get some help. Could we have let go of Dice because the person they are looking at isn't available in a trade? Could they have promised K-Mart the moon after Tim's 20 million comes off the books? Surely we know of the great chance we face of Tim and Tiago having some injury or getting worn down rapidly. Something has got to be brewing.

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    The Nets are finalizing a one-year deal with Kris Humphries today and expect to have him for final preseason game Wednesday, sources tell Y!

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    Darrell Arthur will miss the entire 2011-12 season with a torn right Achilles.
    tbh, i thought Darrell Arthur was serving 10-15 years for raping Bonner in the playoffs last year.

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    tbh, i thought Darrell Arthur was serving 10-15 years for raping Bonner in the playoffs last year.
    tbh, Bonner probably thought it was consensual.

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    Humphries going back to the Nets? FML

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    Why didn't we try to get Brandon Rush in exchange of Dice? I don't think that Amundson-Rush trade is more attractive than that offer.

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    Humphries going back to the Nets? FML
    You realize that any small chance we could convince any decent FA to come here went out the window when we decided to keep RJ right? We officially had a .00% chance at landing this guy.

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    Why didn't we try to get Brandon Rush in exchange of Dice? I don't think that Amundson-Rush trade is more attractive than that offer.
    They actually needed a backup big that could play this year.

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