McDyess retiring

[baseline bum]

McDyess goes down as one of my favorite players of all-time. The athletic version of McDyess was really fun to watch. I thought he was done after his knee injuries but he reinvented himself as a very good role playing big. I can't think of another player who totally reinvented how they played the game and did so seamlessly.

Thanks, Dice

Cheers to Dice for a great career. I was such a fan of his in his Denver and Phoenix days and thought the Rockets were completely nuts to sign Pippen over him in 1999. After the hard times in New York I was so glad to see him regain control of his career in Detroit, and against any other team in those 05 Finals I would have been cheering like for him to ring. I'll never forget the way he was able to guard Nowitzki in the 2010 playoffs and help deliver an improbable series win. Antonio will go down as one of my favorite supporting players in franchise history. What I would have given to have him on the team for that 2006 matchup with Dallas.

[jjktkk]

I specifically said "no one was expecting a star or anything close" and I then went about listing affordable third-fifth big type options. I don't need a source, it's called common sense. If they wanted someone, they'd have gotten one of the names I mentioned.

Wright is a PF, genius. Shawne Williams wanted to stay with the Knicks, too. But the money and opportunity with the Nets was too much to pass up. Supposedly Clark got a little over $1 million annually on a 2 year contract. If the Spurs offered him $2, he's not turning that down. Just like if they offered Murphy $2 or a little more, instead of the $1.4 he got and told him he'd have a shot to eventually start, he's not turning that down.

Lack of trade assets and "cap situation", my ass. The Lakers found a way to get two of the better low cost bigs available. The Celtics damn near got a near All-Star caliber big. The Knicks did get a near All-Star caliber big. Not a single one had cap space, but they found a way to fill their needs or at least gave it their best shot.

Lakers, Knicks, Celtics, you really don't have a clue do you?

[Spurtacus]

Disappointing but not unexpected. Thanks for your efforts on the Spurs. Sorry you couldn't get a ring.

[024]

i can't believe the spurs couldn't turn mcdyess's expiring contract into anything. what a waste. i would have liked mcdyess to do one last thing for the spurs before he sinks into retirement like bowen (even though that didn't turn out well). sad to see mcdyess never get his ring.

[TD 21]

Lakers, Knicks, Celtics, you really don't have a clue do you?

I knew you'd pull that, but not surprisingly, you're missing the point. For the umpteenth time, I'm not saying they should have got someone at the level of a Chandler, West, etc. But Murphy, McRoberts, Clark, Wright, Gray, Shawne and Shelden Williams, etc., they definitely could have gotten one of. And honestly, between McDyess, Blair and their 1st, they should have done better than that via trade. Those guys should have been the minimum.

This old, senile asshole tells us he felt (to paraphrase) "uneasy about the spotty defense last season", then claims he'll do "whatever it takes to get back to 4th-7th defensively". He responds by losing either their second or third best defensive big, increasing the role of their two worst defensive bigs and not even bothering to bring in a surefire NBA player for a fifth big. And idiots like you, who have little to no knowledge and just blindly defend their every move, continue to give them a free pass.

[ElNono]

Not apologist, just a realist. Look at this teams history. Trot out the names of all the great free agents that the Spurs have brought to S.A.? For whatever reason, money, location, etc...

Well, not that long ago they picked up Bones, Finley... when they really wanted to get a big, they went after Horry, Oberto, Gooden, Dice...

This is a team that flew over the coach and dropped the red carpet for mighty mouse Stoudamire... so, when they really wanted, they've managed to do stuff. But it's readily apparent that the urgency isn't there this time, and Pop said basically as much a day or two ago.

That Dice contract is just a waste. I wish the best to Dice, this has nothing to do with him, but the Spurs had an asset, and basically decided to throw it away.

[ElNono]

I don't know how Duncan could allow this. He should have went berserk a few years ago, but especially after last season. Should have demanded that they brought in size, even if the best they could do was a Turiaf type. Instead, he, Ginobili and Parker, continue to put on a brave face for the cameras and pretend. Meanwhile, they've allowed the dumb, senile old man and the drunk piss away whatever slim chance they still had at contending. Well done.

When the SA media wasn't around, Tony said what he really thought...

[NRHector]

thanks Dice, FU Pop and RC

[ElNono]

Are you serious? You can't wait for a Spurs player to get injured?

I don't think he's wishing anybody to get injured. If you don't know Splitter's softness when it comes to injuries, then you need to catch up. I'm sure everybody wishes him to be healthy all season long, but it's true he's basically the only true big we have outside of TD, who can't really play that many games himself.

[Morg1411]

McDyess was the man. I was totally excited to have him come to SA, and I'm appreciative of how well he played for us.

[Morg1411]

In current news, I'm enjoying the pre-season meltdown. Entertaining .

[jjktkk]

Well, not that long ago they picked up Bones, Finley... when they really wanted to get a big, they went after Horry, Oberto, Gooden, Dice...

This is a team that flew over the coach and dropped the red carpet for mighty mouse Stoudamire... so, when they really wanted, they've managed to do stuff. But it's readily apparent that the urgency isn't there this time, and Pop said basically as much a day or two ago.

That Dice contract is just a waste. I wish the best to Dice, this has nothing to do with him, but the Spurs had an asset, and basically decided to throw it away.

Bones, was the arguably the best fa pickup in long while. Why aren't fa's wanting to come to S.A.? Is it because they look at S.A. and no longer view them as a contender? To me that is part if the reason. Is the FO lowballing free agents? Is it Location? If this was 5 years ago, do you think the Spurs would be having such a hard time finding a decent big? I honestly do not know, do you? According to MacDonald(Twitter), the Spurs were trying to make a trade using a Dice/Blair combo, but the trade to whatever team(didn't specify which team) fell thru. Look, this FO is far from perfect, the RJ fiasco is mind numbing to say the least, but considering and understanding what the Spurs are working with, in terms of trade assets and/or money, what realistically where you expecting?

[jjktkk]

I knew you'd pull that, but not surprisingly, you're missing the point. For the umpteenth time, I'm not saying they should have got someone at the level of a Chandler, West, etc. But Murphy, McRoberts, Clark, Wright, Gray, Shawne and Shelden Williams, etc., they definitely could have gotten one of. And honestly, between McDyess, Blair and their 1st, they should have done better than that via trade. Those guys should have been the minimum.

This old, senile asshole tells us he felt (to paraphrase) "uneasy about the spotty defense last season", then claims he'll do "whatever it takes to get back to 4th-7th defensively". He responds by losing either their second or third best defensive big, increasing the role of their two worst defensive bigs and not even bothering to bring in a surefire NBA player for a fifth big. And idiots like you, who have little to no knowledge and just blindly defend their every move, continue to give them a free pass.

Lol, oh wise and noble armchair GM, I see you added Sheldon Williams to your impressive list of bigs. The guy has bounced the league for quite a few years now and can't keep a job as a 4th string 4, or 5, but, you want the Spurs to snatch him up. And how in the did the Spurs lose their "second or third best big", when the guy retires? Since you have this wealth of knowledge, regarding the Spur's assets, I'm curious as to exactly how much money are the Spur's willing to spend and tell me exactly which deals were RC and Pop working on? Which deals and trade senarios were Pop and RC working on and were ultimatly turned down? Or are Pop and RC just doing nothing at all and are kicking back over a bottle of wine and waiting for the season to start?

[Bruno]

It's disappointing that Spurs haven't been able to turn Dice's contract into something good. It was a nice trade asset. Even the typical salary dump trade would have given Spurs a nice trade exception and more flexibility with the luxury tax.

I also don't get at all what Spurs are trying to do with their bigmen rotation. Waiving Novak to let him sign with Knicks is a nice move but it also meant that Spurs told him that he has very little chance to make the roster. Why that? Are Spurs ready to only have 4 bigmen on their roster? Have Spurs a mystery bigman waiting on the sidelines? That's just so weird...

[ElNono]

Bones, was the arguably the best fa pickup in long while. Why aren't fa's wanting to come to S.A.? Is it because they look at S.A. and no longer view them as a contender? To me that is part if the reason. Is the FO lowballing free agents? Is it Location? If this was 5 years ago, do you think the Spurs would be having such a hard time finding a decent big? I honestly do not know, do you? According to MacDonald(Twitter), the Spurs were trying to make a trade using a Dice/Blair combo, but the trade to whatever team(didn't specify which team) fell thru. Look, this FO is far from perfect, the RJ fiasco is mind numbing to say the least, but considering and understanding what the Spurs are working with, in terms of trade assets and/or money, what realistically where you expecting?

I listed 6 different FA's. Whether they pan out or not is really irrelevant. The point is that when the FO really scrambled, they managed to get something done.

I can buy the "FAs don't want to come over here" when it comes to starters. But for 2nd-3rd stringers FAs, I really doubt it. I would buy that the Spurs need to overpay a bit in order to entice them, but really, those guys are after the guaranteed money.

I also don't buy the "CIA Pop" line of "they tried but couldn't convince anybody, you just never hear about it". In this day and age, when you're trying to pull a trade or sign and trade, you're talking with other team's managers, agents, etc. It's how we found out about our search for a new SF.

Plus Pop's tacit admission that they're not in a hurry really rounds it all up.

[ace3g]

DarrenMHaynes Darren M. Haynes
Here's my exclusive interview with Antonio McDyess on "possible" retirement https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=344233798924217

[Doctor J]

I haven't seen a better compe or in the paint who plays with heart and soul and gives 110% every night than Dice since Buck Williams in the 80s and 90s.

Dice, I will miss you.

Thank you for great memories!



I still think you should have come to San Antonio after the 2007 championship season....

[Ice009]

DarrenMHaynes Darren M. Haynes
Here's my exclusive interview with Antonio McDyess on "possible" retirement https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=344233798924217

I couldn't understand half of what he said.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

It's disappointing that Spurs haven't been able to turn Dice's contract into something good. It was a nice trade asset. Even the typical salary dump trade would have given Spurs a nice trade exception and more flexibility with the luxury tax.

I also don't get at all what Spurs are trying to do with their bigmen rotation. Waiving Novak to let him sign with Knicks is a nice move but it also meant that Spurs told him that he has very little chance to make the roster. Why that? Are Spurs ready to only have 4 bigmen on their roster? Have Spurs a mystery bigman waiting on the sidelines? That's just so weird...

Must be a trade in the works or something. Why wouldn't they send Dice's contract + $3M to a team under the cap for a top 59 protected 2nd rounder and a TE? Don't see why no team would take this deal.

[SenorSpur]

I'll always remember, in the Memphis playoff series, how ferociously angry Dice got at, what he thought was a terrible call against him, and the Spurs. I remember Tim and others literally having to pull him away from the official to avoid a technical, while Dice was flinging his arms wildly. I've never seen him so animated and so angry. It clearly showed how much passion, frustration and desire he had to win that game. By that time, the series was already slipping away, yet Dice was still out there fighting and compe ing. A true warrior.

[++SaiNt TiAg0++]

man ive never felt so depressed about the spurs in my life. what the is going on !!? i was saying it last year and ill say it again this year POP NEEDS TO GO! especially if hes not going to help timmy/manu/parker i mean who the does he think hes fooling? does he even know where he is.. im serious he needs to have a damn physical for all we know hes on a binge lol you would have to be to sit idle with what you have

[Bruno]

Must be a trade in the works or something. Why wouldn't they send Dice's contract + $3M to a team under the cap for a top 59 protected 2nd rounder and a TE? Don't see why no team would take this deal.

It's hard to understand while Spurs haven't done a trade like that because it would have allowed them to save a lot of money by going under the tax.

Maybe Spurs didn't find a team to do that trade, maybe Spurs want to keep the $3M asset for another trade, maybe Spurs hopes to have Dice back with the team later this season...

In the past, Spurs have done some weird move financially wise. They were just over the tax and didn't go under while there were some easy moves to do it. It's possible that there are some complicate stuffs regarding Spurs financing and that it's not always in the owners best interest to have a payroll as low as possible.

[SA210]

Well, we lost our only gangster on the team..

[tdunk21]

It's hard to understand while Spurs haven't done a trade like that because it would have allowed them to save a lot of money by going under the tax.

Maybe Spurs didn't find a team to do that trade, maybe Spurs want to keep the $3M asset for another trade, maybe Spurs hopes to have Dice back with the team later this season...

In the past, Spurs have done some weird move financially wise. They were just over the tax and didn't go under while there were some easy moves to do it. It's possible that there are some complicate stuffs regarding Spurs financing and that it's not always in the owners best interest to have a payroll as low as possible.

so after waiving novak and dice, are we under the cap?if we are under the cap we can offer the full MLE right?

[Bruno]

so after waiving novak and dice, are we under the cap?if we are under the cap we can offer the full MLE right?

Nope. Spurs are over the tax and can only offer the mini MLE.