Vegans

[balli]

Your body casues the death of many forms of life on a daily basis. Plants are also alive.

Is the average lettuce leaf more sentient or smart than your pet dog? Cause the sausage you recently ate was.

[CuckingFunt]

Is the average lettuce leaf more sentient or smart than your pet dog? Cause the sausage you recently ate was.

"Yeah, but a dog's got personality. Personality goes a long way."

[redzero]

balli reminds me of the guy from Scott Pilgrim who had the vegan powers.

[CuckingFunt]

This thread makes me want to go to Cochon.

[MannyIsGod]

Is the average lettuce leaf more sentient or smart than your pet dog? Cause the sausage you recently ate was.

So you pretty much set the bar where you need to for your morality to be satisfied. I do the same, except mine is high enough to include that piece of bacon walking around.

[MannyIsGod]

Most of the stuff Vegans eat is pretty damn good. But I'll never give up sushi and bacon. Never.

[balli]

So you pretty much set the bar where you need to for your morality to be satisfied. I do the same, except mine is high enough to include that piece of bacon walking around.

Well that's ed up. And indwfensible. And you probqbpy know this. it. i am not fixing the phone typos.

[balli]

"Yeah, but a dog's got personality. Personality goes a long way."

[benefactor]

And here is the only place where the vegan arrogance bothers me. I've never lived fully vegetarian or vegan, and have generally never denied myself any type of food -- the only things I don't eat are things I don't like the taste of, things that are overly processed, and citrus (due to an allergy) -- but I can make the majority of the same claims as above. My diet includes meat and dairy, but I have ALWAYS been careful about paying attention to what my body actually needs; what goes in my body, how much, and how frequently.

In short, there's a HUGE amount of grey area between healthy vegan mountain climber and gluttonous carnivore with high cholesterol and blood dripping down their chin.

Exactly. I have actually built my body from the ground up eating pretty much what I want. I've learned to moderate certain things in order to accomplish my goals but I can also say most of what balli said and more. I am not naturally athletic at all, yet my diet has not hindered me from getting in better shape than the majority of people my age and I haven't seen any evidence in my personal journey that suggests I need to change anything.

[redzero]

Most of the stuff Vegans eat is pretty damn good. But I'll never give up sushi and bacon. Never.

Bacon is the most overrated thing on the planet.

[CuckingFunt]

Most of the stuff Vegans eat is pretty damn good.

Agreed, for the record. Just not something I feel compelled to make my whole diet.

[leemajors]

Is the average lettuce leaf more sentient or smart than your pet dog? Cause the sausage you recently ate was.

Plants communicate with each other through runners and chemicals, letting them know of damage/pests/pollinators and triggering changes in neighboring plants. This can cause leaves to grow thicker, harder to chew, or even flowers to open up more for pollinators. They may not be "sentient" or "smart" but they are nowhere near passive or unresponsive.

[balli]

And btw, when you pluck an applw off a tree, you aren't killing the tree. You're accepting what thw tree peovides, in order that it can provide again.

[leemajors]

This is true.

you can make pretty damn good beans with water, onion, and garlic.

[leemajors]

And btw, when you pluck an applw off a tree, you aren't killing the tree. You're accepting what thw tree peovides, in order that it can provide again.

When you kill one bacterial meatsuit, you are nourishing another.

[balli]

You gotta throw some seaweed into the pintos. Natty sea salts. So in good.

[balli]

I know what yall are sayin regarding the whole 'i could never be vegan' thing. thats how i feel about gluten. in beer is holding me down. it took me 8 months to wrap my head around veganism. but in 8 months ill be gluten free too. you should all start thinking about animal though. theres a new world at your fingertips.

[katyon6th]

How does one become a vegan?

[balli]

Its simple katy baby. No meat, no cheese, no yogurt milk or otherwise dairy. You're an empress girl; recognise how beautiful your stunning, human, female self is and give that up. You deserve it.

[baseline bum]

you can make pretty damn good beans with water, onion, and garlic.

But you make them great by also adding bacon, poblanos, cilantro, and a can of beer tbh.

[balli]

But you make them great by also adding bacon, poblanos, cilantro, and a can of beer tbh.

Say you were hungry though? And anything you made would look good? So you skip the bacon and and make the beans with just the cilantro and chili. Afterwards, when you are full, do you think you'd really be sad without having eaten the pig flesh. The answer is: No. You'd feel good.

[baseline bum]

Its simple katy baby. No meat, no cheese, no yogurt milk or otherwise dairy. You're an empress girl; recognise how beautiful your stunning, human, female self is and give that up. You deserve it.

Don't listen to him katy; having a booty is a positive thing.

[leemajors]

But you make them great by also adding bacon, poblanos, cilantro, and a can of beer tbh.

i'll keep cilantro far away from my beans. i am of that percentile of the population it tastes like soap to.

[leemajors]

I know what yall are sayin regarding the whole 'i could never be vegan' thing. thats how i feel about gluten. in beer is holding me down. it took me 8 months to wrap my head around veganism. but in 8 months ill be gluten free too. you should all start thinking about animal though. theres a new world at your fingertips.

if you're drinking beer, there is a decent chance you have been consuming traces of isinglass and/or gelatin.

[silverblk mystix]

Here's the thing about it. I know exactly, like exactly, how many grams of protein I've eaten today. I know the amount and where it's come from. I'm the only poster in this thread who can say that. Look, I get that veganism is arrogant, but I lack for nothing in my diet. Everything I eat I'm amazed by. I am so happy and grateful, daily, for the quality of food I get to eat. Everyday I am blessed with the cleanest and most pure food available. Quinoa, amazing almonds, hemp seeds, lentil pilafs, vegetables. The list goes on and on and on. And it's a shame that so many misconceptions exist about food. Because I feel great. Always. I never, ever, get headaches. My and digestive system is always perfect. My fingernails are stronger. My hair and skin are healthy. I always have energy. I never push away from a huge meal and feel like . I'm never lethargic or sick. I don't own a microwave. Nothing that thinks ever has to die in order for me to live. Everything I eat makes me feel great and nothing I eat makes me feel bad, ever. Everything in my life is better because of what I eat. I want for nothing. I have a hard time explaining to people how good I always feel, because anybody eating meat and cheese has never come close to feeling this way and cannot relate. And it's a shame that people scoff it, because what they're missing out on is simply the truth. And the lie is so short of what anybody can choose to have. That's why we're so evangelical about it.

He may be trolling, but I know exactly how this feels. In the mid 90's to until about 2003...I ate almost no animal products and I felt....superior to other people...

I would see people eating stuff that I could only smh to and I kinda looked down on...just thinking what this junk was doing to their bodies...

Eventually...I transitioned back into a diet which is probably 85-90% fruits/veggies...with about 10-15% meats and/or animal products ...probably because old habits die hard and also the love for things like Sushi and certain other animal based foods...

I might satisfy a burger craving or a philly cheesesteak once and then afterwards....I feel ty...so I won't crave the burger/steak for about 6-8 months...

On the one hand I agree with what Balli is saying here...and do agree that the less animal products one consumes the healthier one is...I also believe that many diseases are caused by eating a lifetime's worth of animal products,etc...

On the other hand I still feel great and always appreciate the genuine look of shock when someone asks my age and thinks I am lying when I tell them...they always state that they woulda' guessed 15-20 years younger....

Or they could be just in' with me....