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    Sucks.

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    T.T can we just tank to get a bigman...i heard there was some good prospects this year.

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    I swear we need to tank. this season & Pop & this wack ass front office. I'm ultimately depressed by this .

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    The mood swings on SpursTalk is great for entertainment purposes.

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    thhis franchise

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    Lol, oh wise and noble armchair GM, I see you added Sheldon Williams to your impressive list of bigs. The guy has bounced the league for quite a few years now and can't keep a job as a 4th string 4, or 5, but, you want the Spurs to snatch him up. And how in the did the Spurs lose their "second or third best big", when the guy retires? Since you have this wealth of knowledge, regarding the Spur's assets, I'm curious as to exactly how much money are the Spur's willing to spend and tell me exactly which deals were RC and Pop working on? Which deals and trade senarios were Pop and RC working on and were ultimatly turned down? Or are Pop and RC just doing nothing at all and are kicking back over a bottle of wine and waiting for the season to start?
    Williams would have made sense as a fifth big, particularly if Blair were traded. He's strong, a good rebounder, solid defender and can make the occasional mid range jumper. Basically, a poor man's Kurt Thomas. Speaking of whom, why wasn't he signed? Despite his age, he was solid again last season and is similar enough to McDyess, who they wanted to retain. They lost McDyess to retirement and failed to replace him. Even you should be able to understand that.

    The Spurs have their mini mid-level exception, worth $3 million, available. There's no reason they couldn't have outbid a bunch of teams for one of those bigs. This is a results oriented business and nobody cares if they tried or were limited in what they could do. As I alluded to, other teams were limited too, but still found a way to fill at least some needs and it wasn't just the glamor teams.

    If they were interested in any of the aforementioned bigs, I'm sure we'd have heard in at least a few of the cases. They were too busy nitpicking and acting like they were smarter than everyone else, like they thought a quality all around big would fall into their lap for the minimum. If you can't have quality, then you've got to have quan y. They have neither.

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    Williams would have made sense as a fifth big, particularly if Blair were traded. He's strong, a good rebounder, solid defender and can make the occasional mid range jumper. Basically, a poor man's Kurt Thomas. Speaking of whom, why wasn't he signed? Despite his age, he was solid again last season and is similar enough to McDyess, who they wanted to retain. They lost McDyess to retirement and failed to replace him. Even you should be able to understand that.

    The Spurs have their mini mid-level exception, worth $3 million, available. There's no reason they couldn't have outbid a bunch of teams for one of those bigs. This is a results oriented business and nobody cares if they tried or were limited in what they could do. As I alluded to, other teams were limited too, but still found a way to fill at least some needs and it wasn't just the glamor teams.

    If they were interested in any of the aforementioned bigs, I'm sure we'd have heard in at least a few of the cases. They were too busy nitpicking and acting like they were smarter than everyone else, like they thought a quality all around big would fall into their lap for the minimum. If you can't have quality, then you've got to have quan y. They have neither.
    Did you not read the article, that the Spurs are not gonna just sign anybody? Depth is nice, if that depth actually gets on the court.

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    Did you not read the article, that the Spurs are not gonna just sign anybody? Depth is nice, if that depth actually gets on the court.
    I did. Hence the "they nitpicked and thought they were smarter than everyone else" comment. Depth isn't just "nice", it's a necessity. And it's especially essential in a compressed season, where your best big by far is 35, with a ton of mileage and you have only two other legit sized bigs, one of whom is basically a perimeter player and the other being fairly injury prone.

    The two positions you absolute can't be short at, in term of bodies, is center and point guard. They no longer have the luxury of quality. The aforementioned bigs were as close to quality as they could afford in free agency and they apparently weren't interested. So now it's not about that, it's about having another big body. And whoever it is will get on the court. They won't be in the rotation, but they will be needed to eat up a fair amount of minutes, even if the four rotation bigs avoid injury.

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    Williams would have made sense as a fifth big, particularly if Blair were traded. He's strong, a good rebounder, solid defender and can make the occasional mid range jumper. Basically, a poor man's Kurt Thomas. Speaking of whom, why wasn't he signed?
    You should review the player pool.

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    You should review the player pool.
    ? Both of them were available at the start of free agency and both signed for the minimum.

    So you don't want depth up front? You like the fact that they don't have quality or quan y of bigs?

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    ? Both of them were available at the start of free agency and both signed for the minimum.

    So you don't want depth up front? You like the fact that they don't have quality or quan y of bigs?
    Sorry, misread your sentence.

    We have enough slow big men. I wanted to sign him for years and years -- it was a bit too late when he actually got here and it's far too late now.

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    Sorry, misread your sentence.

    We have enough slow big men. I wanted to sign him for years and years -- it was a bit too late when he actually got here and it's far too late now.
    I agree. But beggars can't be choosers. At least he can make a shot outside of 10 feet and hold his own on the glass and defensively in the post. There's only one big on this team who the same can be said for.

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    I agree. But beggars can't be choosers. At least he can make a shot outside of 10 feet and hold his own on the glass and defensively in the post. There's only one big on this team who the same can be said for.
    Sure beggars can be choosers -- it's just that all the choices suck.

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    For posterity.

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    i still remember bringing in dice and how great a fit he was.Will always remember timmy going against dice early in his career when dice was still a sun.

    Gl antonio srry u couldnt go out with a ring

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    I did. Hence the "they nitpicked and thought they were smarter than everyone else.
    Hmmm. I wonder if their smarter than TD 21? I'll go out on a limb and say yes.

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    Hmmm. I wonder if their smarter than TD 21? I'll go out on a limb and say yes.
    So smart that they managed to take a severe weakness and make it worse, despite having the trade assets to improve it.

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    By Mike Monroe
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    HOUSTON — Admitting it felt strange to be sitting in the stands 10 rows behind the Spurs bench, and even weirder seeing Tim Duncan sitting out the second half of the third game of the season because the Spurs were being blown out by the Rockets, Antonio McDyess put to rest any thoughts that he might elect to come out of retirement at any time this season.

    “Uh-uh,” he said, flashing his characteristic smile. “A lot of people have been asking, but it’s not happening.”

    McDyess and his wife are expecting their first child in a few days and he said he is comfortable with his decision to leave the NBA after 16 seasons, the last two with the Spurs.

    The former All-Star and Olympic gold medal winner paid a short visit to the Spurs locker room after the Rockets’ 105-85 drubbing, to the delight of coach Gregg Popovich.

    “The best part of this whole night was seeing Antonio,” Popovich said.
    http://blog.mysanantonio.com/spursna...done-for-good/

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    I recall when Denver & Phoenix got into a pissing match for his services many years ago. Denver brought him into town and out to the Pepsi Center. Kidd, George McCloud and Rex Chapman took a Lear up at Colangelo's expense in order to get him to come back down here. They took off from Sky Harbor and arrived in a snow storm in Denver, landed and drove out to the Pepsi Center. But, they wouldn't sell them a ticket, or, answer the door. Finally they got a janitor (Lefty's estranged father) to open the door a crack, but, he refused to let 'em in.

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    Congrats to Dice and his wife. He will be missed. I hope he enjoys retirement.

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    I recall watching him hit open jumpers on us on game 3 of 2005 finals and thinking, man it'd be nice having this guy.
    it was great seeing him as a spur too bad we didn't win more

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    The FO should convince Dice to unretire for one last season. He can hit long jumpers on offense, without sacrificing defense and rebounding.

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    The FO should convince Dice to unretire for one last season. He can hit long jumpers on offense, without sacrificing defense and rebounding.
    I was really hoping we could get through this thread without someone begging for Dice to come back. If Dice were here, he wouldn't be eating into Bonner's minutes. Let that sink in.

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    I was really hoping we could get through this thread without someone begging for Dice to come back. If Dice were here, he wouldn't be eating into Bonner's minutes. Let that sink in.
    Pop likes to have a bigman that plays on the perimeter, however the Spurs need a backup for the other players. The red rocket could be replaced by RJ, with his role at SF covered by Leonard or Anderson. But when the other 3 bigs get in foul trouble, the options are very limited. Also, it would allow Duncan to miss some RS games. And if somebody gets injured, it will be very difficult.

    Dice seems an mature individual, the Spurs should simply talk to him and put an offer on a table. If accepted fine, if not move one. Working with Pop or in a Spurs FO has later granted a top level job to many persons. Perhaps the Spurs offered $$$, so Dice says he's comfortable being retired.
    Last edited by dunkman; 12-31-2011 at 07:10 AM.

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    Dice seems an mature individual.
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