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  1. 12-25-2011 #76
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    Quote Originally Posted by ElNono
    you mean losing the NBA finals?
    What is your IQ? 48?
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  2. 12-25-2011 #77
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    Wait, weren't you the guy that claimed not to be a Kobe apologist?
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  3. 12-25-2011 #78
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce Bigalow
    What is your IQ? 48?
    You mean losing the NBA Finals?
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  4. 12-25-2011 #79
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    Quote Originally Posted by ElNono
    I'm a trend setter.

    I set trends.
    I'm trend setter.

    I set trends.
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  5. 12-25-2011 #80
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    Quote Originally Posted by Giuseppe
    set
    I'm trend setter.

    I set trends.
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  6. 12-25-2011 #81
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    Quote Originally Posted by ElNono
    I'm trend setter.

    I set trends.
    I'm trend setter.

    I set trends.
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  7. 12-25-2011 #82
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    Quote Originally Posted by Giuseppe
    I
    I'm trend setter.

    I set trends.
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  8. 12-25-2011 #83
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    Quote Originally Posted by ElNono
    Wait, weren't you the guy that claimed not to be a Kobe apologist?
    How am I being an "apologist'

    making the finals >>> losing in prior round
    kobe is better than duncan right now despite 4,000 more minutes played

    Low IQ?
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  9. 12-25-2011 #84
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce Bigalow
    How am I being an "apologist'
    Low IQ?
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  10. 12-25-2011 #85
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    Quote Originally Posted by ElNono
    Low IQ?
    This fool
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  11. 12-25-2011 #86
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    OK tell me

    DO you want your Spurs to make the Finals this year, or lose in the 1st round?
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  12. 12-25-2011 #87
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    Tell me how you really feel about Kobe's choke today...
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  13. 12-25-2011 #88
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    Quote Originally Posted by ElNono
    Tell me how you really feel about Kobe's choke today...
    How do you think?
    blowing an 11 point lead felt really good man....
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  14. 12-26-2011 #89
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce Bigalow
    How do you think?
    blowing an 11 point lead felt really good man....
    You sound mad, tbh
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  15. 12-26-2011 #90
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    Quote Originally Posted by ElNono
    I'm trend setter.

    I set trends.
    I'm a trend setter.

    I set trends.
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  16. 12-26-2011 #91
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    Quote Originally Posted by Giuseppe
    I'm a trend setter.

    I set trends.
    'seppe!!!

    What did katiegirl get you for christmas? two-pack of fixodent?
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    Deuce, not to say that Kobe isn't one of the most skilled players to ever play or that he wasn't athletic, he is/was that, but he also always had bellow average bball iq.

    He had to defer to Shaq for the first rings. Shaq commanded similar attention to that pic of Kobe, with the difference that it would have been a dunk and 1. Shaq also passed the ball often in that situations.

    Gasol / Bynum / Odom would get 10 rpg each - outrebounding every other team, make all types of miss matches with size, strenght and speed, plus they would score their points at around 1.5 pts/shot. Kobe would take most of the shots by far and make more points than Gasol, but he wasn't the true reason why the Lakers were so succesful.

    The only time Kobe played really well in the finals was against the Magic, a team without an good wing defender. In the other 4 championships, the Lakers bigs contributed more than Kobe. When the Lakers failed to win, Kobe played terribly.

    In the last Lakers championship, Fisher had to yell at Kobe in the game 7, because he was to shot the Lakers out. Basically World Peace and Gasol bailed out the Lakers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ElNono
    'seppe!!!

    What did katiegirl get you for christmas? two-pack of fixodent?
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  19. 12-26-2011 #94
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    Quote Originally Posted by LkrFan
    Oh, yeah, that's in' hilarious.
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  21. 12-26-2011 #96
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    Quote Originally Posted by dunkman
    In the last Lakers championship, Fisher had to yell at Kobe in the game 7, because he was to shot the Lakers out.
    The key? When he had to yell at him, Fisher was standing in California because of those 7 last second victories that Kobe garnered in the first 82 games.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Giuseppe
    Oh, yeah, that's in' hilarious.
    Sorry man. That was funny.
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  23. 12-26-2011 #98
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    Quote Originally Posted by LkrFan
    Sorry man. That we funny.
    Oh, yeah, just a side splitter.
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  24. 12-26-2011 #99
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    Quote Originally Posted by Giuseppe
    Oh, yeah, just a side splitter.
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  25. 12-26-2011 #100
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    Quote Originally Posted by dunkman
    Deuce, not to say that Kobe isn't one of the most skilled players to ever play or that he wasn't athletic, he is/was that, but he also always had bellow average bball iq.

    He had to defer to Shaq for the first rings. Shaq commanded similar attention to that pic of Kobe, with the difference that it would have been a dunk and 1. Shaq also passed the ball often in that situations.

    Gasol / Bynum / Odom would get 10 rpg each - outrebounding every other team, make all types of miss matches with size, strenght and speed, plus they would score their points at around 1.5 pts/shot. Kobe would take most of the shots by far and make more points than Gasol, but he wasn't the true reason why the Lakers were so succesful.

    The only time Kobe played really well in the finals was against the Magic, a team without an good wing defender. In the other 4 championships, the Lakers bigs contributed more than Kobe. When the Lakers failed to win, Kobe played terribly.

    In the last Lakers championship, Fisher had to yell at Kobe in the game 7, because he was to shot the Lakers out. Basically World Peace and Gasol bailed out the Lakers.
    The bigs were better than Kobe in the '08 and '10 finals? uh ok
    Kobe played well in the '02 finals (27/6/5/51%) and still averaged 29/8 in the '10 finals, bad % but still 29/8 is bad?
    30-6-5 in '08 PO
    30-5-6 in '09 PO
    29-6-6 in '10 PO
    Bynum in 08 PO - DNP any games, '09 PO - 6/4/46%, '10 PO - 9/7/54%
    Odom in '08 PO - 14/10/49%, '09 PO - 12/9/52%, '10 PO - 10/9/47%
    Gasol was great all around (except in '08 Finals)

    and this whole "bailed out thing" it happens all the time, one player doesn't win a championship, Horry bailed out the entire spurs team in the '05 finals, it happens

    Kobe and Jordan are the only players to ever average 30-5-5 in the playoffs and win finals MVP, to say that Kobe wasn't the best player on those teams is re ed
    and how did LA make the Finals in '08 in the first place? Kobe averaged 32/6/6/52FG%/61TS% through the first 3 rounds
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