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    whats worst?

    splitters pussy layups or blairs showtime layups?

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    whats worst?

    splitters pussy layups or blairs showtime layups?

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    Another thing.. even though Tiago usually throws up soft hooks and flips from the post.. he does have good quick footwork and moves in the post it's just the finishing touch thats missing. He can still draw fouls from the post.. he just needs to be able to finish better and/or stronger.

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    As is Kawhi...
    Not even the same. Just stfu and quit thinking you know wtf you're talking about. Please.

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    Not even the same. Just stfu and quit thinking you know wtf you're talking about. Please.
    Leonard isnt an offensive liability? Especially with the ball in his hands?

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    Leonard isnt an offensive liability? Especially with the ball in his hands?
    No, and not even close to the liability of what Udoka was.

    How many turnovers does he have when handling the ball? None.

    How many careless plays on the offensive side? None.

    Yes, he isn't hitting his shot at a high clip, but this is his second NBA game and fourth basketball game and he's 20.

    Udoka was how old and played how many years?

    Like I said, not even the same. So again, stfu with the basketball talk because you're terrible at it.

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    How many turnovers does he have when handling the ball? None.
    To be fair, he normally just dribbles in place and doesn't go anywhere with the ball. I would hope he doesn't have any turnovers.

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    No, and not even close to the liability of what Udoka was.

    How many turnovers does he have when handling the ball? None.

    How many careless plays on the offensive side? None.

    Yes, he isn't hitting his shot at a high clip, but this is his second NBA game and fourth basketball game and he's 20.

    Udoka was how old and played how many years?

    Like I said, not even the same. So again, stfu with the basketball talk because you're terrible at it.


    With that out of the way, he doesnt have to be as bad as Udoka to be an offensive liability dumbass. He cant shoot, he cant penetrate, and he hasnt even shown a knack for finishing despite his athleticism and length. Sure the guy is young, and he still has room to grow, but from what weve seen so far he is definitely a liability on one end and that isnt going to change overnight.


    To be fair, he normally just dribbles in place and doesn't go anywhere with the ball. I would hope he doesn't have any turnovers.
    This too. Playing conservatively to the point were he has no TOs doesnt make him a solid offensive player. See Jacque Vaughn for proof.

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    Another thing.. even though Tiago usually throws up soft hooks and flips from the post.. he does have good quick footwork and moves in the post it's just the finishing touch thats missing. He can still draw fouls from the post.. he just needs to be able to finish better and/or stronger.
    I think he just needs to take his time. He seems to be rushing the shot at times.

    I like the defense better than last year. On offense I think having Ginobili and Jefferson 1-2 in scoring and Parker at 8 apg seems to be a good formula. I think that will keep Jefferson aggressive and Parker from dominating the ball.

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    With that out of the way,
    I meant within the set offense, not trying to bring it up like a point guard. I didn't forget that when I asked you the question in the quotes.

    he doesnt have to be as bad as Udoka to be an offensive liability dumbass.
    Look up the word liability.

    He cant shoot, he cant penetrate, and he hasnt even shown a knack for finishing despite his athleticism and length. Sure the guy is young, and he still has room to grow, but from what weve seen so far he is definitely a liability on one end and that isnt going to change overnight.
    Again, second game in, cut the kid some ing slack nimrod.

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    To be fair, he normally just dribbles in place and doesn't go anywhere with the ball. I would hope he doesn't have any turnovers.
    He had one in the first game. In the open court against Rudy Gay. Its in the highlight video.

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    10 of 19 from downtown, 52%. It looks like the Spurs can win when the 3's are falling.
    2 of 19 would have been enough to win this game

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    I meant within the set offense, not trying to bring it up like a point guard. I didn't forget that when I asked you the question in the quotes.
    Like Nathan89 mentioned, the guy doesnt even attempt to do much when he has the ball in his hands. Atleast he knows his limitations though.

    Look up the word liability.
    I know what it means. Youre the re that needs to realize that playing mistake free basketball doesnt always mean a player isnt an offensive liability. Look at Vaughn.

    Again, second game in, cut the kid some ing slack nimrod.
    It doesnt take a genius to realize Kawhi isnt very polished offensively. Its not just the fact that his shots arent falling, but also the fact that his shooting form is horrible and his handles look suspect. Those two things wont change overnight, it doesnt matter if its the 2nd game or 62nd game. improve those working hard during summers not as the season progresses.

    Hopefully he improves as he gets older, but as of right now only a dumbass would say he isnt a liability on the offensive end.

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    I'm all for critisising Bonner when it's appropriate, but this

    bonner = got too trigger happy after a few shots were fallin.
    is simply not true. He had 4 shots with the first and the last being baskets. His lack of rebounding though...

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    Leonard has very good handles and penetrating is his biggest strength offensively, he can also post up. He's not an offensive liability, eventually he'll start getting used to playing with everybody and gain confidence.

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    Teams are going to take the three point shooting away in the playoffs like the Grizzlies did. Hopefully the Spurs have a plan B. The defense is much improved from a year ago. If they combine the offense that gave them first seed with better defense I think they have a good chance.
    This is a solid point and one that has been of a concern since Duncan has seamlessly transitioned his offense to the high post. Other than some occasional drops from Blair and with Tiago's offense struggline, there is very little post scoring - meaning this team relies ultra-heavily on 3-pt shooting.

    It's already been proven that, over the long haul, you cannot win in that fashion. Yet, I don't believe the Spurs have any other choice.

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    I was glad to see JA start looking good in the second half, but damn did that look awful seeing him fall on his ass when Randy Foye crossed him up. That was bad.

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    Sounds like defense and Emanuel Ginobili.
    Sounds about right.

    Makes me think back to the decision NOT to pay for the league pass this year, as long as Jefferson is on the team.

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    Again, second game in, cut the kid some ing slack nimrod.
    Remember that Fkla was George Hill greatest fan and is still butthurt about the trade. So cut Fkla some slack, it wouldn't be fair to his partiality if he wasn't ting on Leonard's play after 2 games...

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    Timvp, why do you hate Tiago?
    Why does he hate so many effective centers for the Spurs?

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    I was glad to see JA start looking good in the second half, but damn did that look awful seeing him fall on his ass when Randy Foye crossed him up. That was bad.
    It was nice to see him get back up and get himself going.

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    This is a solid point and one that has been of a concern since Duncan has seamlessly transitioned his offense to the high post. Other than some occasional drops from Blair and with Tiago's offense struggline, there is very little post scoring - meaning this team relies ultra-heavily on 3-pt shooting.

    It's already been proven that, over the long haul, you cannot win in that fashion. Yet, I don't believe the Spurs have any other choice.
    This is exactly my concern with Duncan, I haven't seen 1 basket on the block against a good defensive big (Gasol, Jordan) if scoring in the post offensively is no longer a threat, and no longer attracts a double, it puts so much more preasure in the perimeter to deliver. As Pop said those shots won't always go in, plus they will obviously be defended better in the playoffs. we won't have the same looks we had in the regular season.

    For these early games , I'm looking for positives, the defense is one (Tiago and Kawhi), Andersons and RJ offensive confidence is another. We know what we will get from Manu and Tony, Unfortunately TD's ability to remain a threat one on one on the block is not one of them. In fact Blair actually had more low post baskets, I'm just not confident in placing my faith in an undersized big like Blair, Teams are probably saying yeah let him get his points now , come playoff we're shutting that down

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    IMO there are already some huge potential improvements from last years team.. even without getting another big.

    1. Tiago having a bigger role improves the team defense leaps and bounds. It should mean opposing bigmen no longer have field days against the Spurs. It also stops the layup drills teams were running at the Spurs basket last season.

    2. JA gives the Spurs more scoring punch off the bench and under rated playmaking. That already makes him an improvement over George Hill imo.. who was an out and out shooter/slasher. Anderson wont force the Spurs to suffer with mismatches defensively either.

    3. Leonard potentially can be a lockdown defender and great rebounder at the 3. Im really interested to see how he does against some of the elite perimeter scorers to see if he can move his feet well enough to stay with in distance to get those long arms up to contest.

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    Good grades. Manu was so good he almost made me cry. Splitter is limited on O except for PnR. He is smart and quick for his size and also good at passing so he has some utility there. Props to RJ and Blair. If they would play like this all season we would be tough to beat.

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    With that out of the way

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