Devin Harris without a stacked team where he's free to be the 4th option and get curbstomped on defense:
43%, 40%, 42%
Does it really matter how well he performs on a bad team? The point is that he was a great fit alongside Dirk. Got us past the Spurs and almost won the finals. He was a great sixth man and could start against certain teams. He provided needed energy off the bench. Without him, Dallas wasn't that good. As proven by their losing in 08.Devin Harris without a stacked team where he's free to be the 4th option and get curbstomped on defense:
43%, 40%, 42%
Yeah, it does. It shows that he only looked better playing with an excellent 06 mavericks team and that getting curbstomped on defense wasn't worth what he brought to the table. Whenever a player goes somewhere else and falls off a cliff, then the team that got rid of you goes on to win a championship it shows a lot. The mavs absolutely made the right decision letting him go because if you sub Harris for Kidd last year we DON'T win the championship. Kidd's defense on kobe and wade was outstanding, something Harris couldn't do. It's just like when we let nash go, it was nothing personal but it was the right move for US.
Stevenson and Marion were the ones doing most of the dirty work. This team actually suits Harris more than the mavs of 06. Btw Heat of 06>Heat of 2K11. Harris to the Mavs was as important as Bobby Jackson was for the Kings. No surprise both teams dropped off tremendously once they were not there. While we are at it, Antoine Walker 1 ring. Charles Barkley no ring.
mavs with kidd: 1 ring
mavs with harris: 0 rings
Harris couldn't ever duplicate what Kidd did for us last year. Not shutting down Wade and Kobe or hitting those 3's. Kidd was the better fit you're just an asshurt bullsfan/ sexual devin harris lover, your take on the whole trade is irrational.
This team would be a whole lot better offensively. Teams will struggle with containing Harris's penetration which will open up other players. If you thought Barea was good, Harris is better and more annoying to other teams. Just ask Tony Parker about how he thought about the trade.
Stevenson would be guarding Wade. Harris wouldn't need to guard Wade with that lineup. Harris would destroy Bibby though. Kidd couldn't do anything against Bibby. And having Chandler guard the rim was huge for all Dallas players. This team had more talent than 06. Miami had 2 big men in 06. Way more suited to the playoffs when the game slows down.
Stevenson isn't a guy who is going to play for 40 minutes a night and can't guard them all game long. Kidd guarded those guys to perfection whereas Harris could not. You fail.
Harris can guard Wade for 10 minutes a game. It's a big difference than him guarding Wade for most of the game which he had to in 06. And Wade wasn't as quick now as he was in 06. He was a nightmare back then with a little help from the refs. Having Chandler guard the rim would also be huge in slowing down Wade.
lol devin harris
I haven't heard anything about the guy since he hit that half court shot a few years ago.
^Scro I'll let you take it from here, this guy gave me a headache
& aside from Jefferson I ain't ever seen a guy look better being ty than Devin Harris. Uncanny.
^Scro I'll let you take it from here, this guy gave me a headache
had you got the same 5 n!ggas on your squad 5 years ago you'd be a certain to win da championship tbhHere is two of our newest Mavericks...
^Cept without Chandler you've never been able to win squat.
another year for us mav fans
if that's our final squad for the upcoming season, i say they're going to tank it and prepare for the next season and offseason. dirk may still have a few good years ahead of him but we need to plan further, at least in the next 10 years we must ensure that we have a superstar (preferably a dallas native) or a combo of two superstars (a dallas native plus a superman) to lead this team and keep the team great.
Delonte West needs to remain at the starting 2 guard.
IMO West > Barea overall, just needs the time to gel. But by season's end, we will be happier with West than we were with Barea. They basically bring the same things: penetration, scoring, determination, but periodically make brainless plays. However, West is a MUCH better defender, and is actually capable of taking on speedy guys like Westbrook and Parker, as well as bigger guys like Wade and Kobe, and actually making them all work hard for what they get.
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Also, I think VC is going to fit in quite nicely if he keeps doing what he's been doing... shooting spot up shots (has always been a very underrated jumpshooter), and periodically attacking the rim when the opportunity arises.
But the most important player to get in a groove is Lamar Odom. He's been completely out of sync. But when he does build that chemistry... he can be a VERY deadly weapon and can help take this offense to the next level, and keep the Mavs from struggling so badly when Dirk leaves the game (which was pretty much the story of the game last night against OKC - they made all their runs when Dirk was out).
Way too early to give up on the season Mavs fans... there is a LOT to like about the team. Will they win a championship? Hard to say, with Miami lurking, but they are the only team to feel threatened by in the end, IMO (OKC isn't scary to me in the least bit as they havent shown any real improvement since last season and are still every bit as boneheaded). But staying in contention is still extremely important, especially if they want to have a shot at landing a big FA next year.
I smell a repeat... of 2007
Lakers getting face ed in 5 in the first round?
Very likely, tbqmfh.
I agree that West will replace everything that Barea gave us. Much better shooter/defender and a good penetrator but not quite as good as Barea. Actually has an underrated postgame. I was pretty excited when I found out we got him.
And you're right about Odom. Once he gets in sync with the offense, I think Dallas will be in good shape. He's given us nothing so far but it's obvious he's capable of a lot more.
The West signing is looking to be brilliant..him checking westbrook last night was a major reason why we were even in it. Wouldn't mind him starting at the 2 at all tbh.
I'm happy with this squad, and strongly believe that they will finish strong, and hopefully can make another nice playoff run.
If they somehow overcame all odds, and pulled off another championship run, I think it would pretty much guarantee that the Mavs at least get one of the big 2 FAs (Dwight and Deron), if not both. As much as some Mavs fans want to say that this season doesn't matter much because they are playing for 2012 free agency, the more successful season they have, the more desirable Dallas becomes to FAs. If they go out and completely lay an egg and miss the playoffs, Dwight and Deron might have second thoughts on whether Dallas is a suitable location for them or not.
Again, I don't think the Mavs will win a championship, I think Miami will. But I do think that if Dallas is firing on all cylinders, they are the only team in the NBA with a legit shot at beating Miami, because they again match up well, in having players that make Wade/Lebron work at both ends of the court, have a major mismatch in Dirk, and have an unquestionably superior coach.
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