Kobe and Duncan's respective rankings on the all-time playoff leaderboards.

[DMC]

Jackson missed being part of New York's 1970 championship season due to spinal fusion surgery; however, he authored a book en led "Take It All," a photo diary of the Knicks' 1970 Championship run.

That says all I need to know about the frontrunner.

[Giuseppe]

I got no problem with it.

Kobe: 5

Duncan: 4

Obviously afore the bag.

[Spur_Fanatic]

Not worth to necro, since few care of Culby's tirade.

[Deuce Bigalow]

Duncan isn't in the top 3 in any category, Kobe is
Kobe has a chance to end up #1 in total career playoff points

[ogait]

Nice thread. Medvedenko certainly has secured his legacy has the most re ed argument maker on the history of Spurs Talk.

[ogait]

Ducan was far greater from 1999-2001
Kobe narrows the gap from 2002-2007, but duncan still on top ...
2008 - present ...Kobe catches and passes duncan in rings, stats, some of your precious advanced stats ...that is why he is ranked higher.

Killa you are one the few Lakers fans that makes sense in this thread, but how exactly does Kobe narrows the gap from 2002 to 2007?

Seeing how you value rings, it has to be noticed that Duncan won 3 in that span of time and he also played maybe the most impressive playoff run of anyone post MJ in 2003 when you consider the value of his team and the final outcome (only Dirk run last year compares imo). Kobe has a couple of scoring championships, sabotaging his team in the finals, missing the playoffs and first round losses to show for.

Anyway in the big picture Kobe at age 31 was fortunately to have one more ring than Duncan. After that Duncan's decline has been much more pronounced than Kobe's but the role played on the championships runs has to be the main factor. Let's say, just for argument sake, that the Spurs somehow managed to win a ring this year (lol not going to happen). Seeing how Duncan is no longer the Spurs best player that ring it shouldn't add much if any value to his overall career.

Imo post MJ it's like this.
Shaq best prime.
Duncan and Shaq tied in first as overall career.
Kobe more rings (tied with Horry).

Maybe a championship well in his 30's as the man (sorry bringing in Dwight to do the work doesn't qualify) as well as a dominant finals performance for a change can put him in the same level of those 2.

[Giuseppe]

Killa you are one the few Lakers fans that makes sense in this thread, but how exactly does Kobe narrows the gap from 2002 to 2007?

Seeing how you value rings, it has to be noticed that Duncan won 3 in that span of time and he also played maybe the most impressive playoff run of anyone post MJ in 2003 when you consider the value of his team and the final outcome (only Dirk run last year compares imo). Kobe has a couple of scoring championships, sabotaging his team in the finals, missing the playoffs and first round losses to show for.

Anyway in the big picture Kobe at age 31 was fortunately to have one more ring than Duncan. After that Duncan's decline has been much more pronounced than Kobe's but the role played on the championships runs has to be the main factor. Let's say, just for argument sake, that the Spurs somehow managed to win a ring this year (lol not going to happen). Seeing how Duncan is no longer the Spurs best player that ring it shouldn't add much if any value to his overall career.

Imo post MJ it's like this.
Shaq best prime.
Duncan and Shaq tied in first as overall career.
Kobe more rings (tied with Horry).

Maybe a championship well in his 30's as the man (sorry bringing in Dwight to do the work doesn't qualify) as well as a dominant finals performance for a change can put him in the same level of those 2.

Boiled down:::

Kobe: 5

tired old bag Duncan: 4

[daslicer]

Boiled down:::

Kobe: 5

tired old bag Duncan: 4

Typical old got who cares you won't be around in 10 years anyways. I'm going to use my line

Duncan: 5 mvps

Alimony Kobe: 3 mvps

[Giuseppe]

Typical old got who cares you won't be around in 10 years anyways. I'm going to use my line

Duncan: 5 mvps

Alimony Kobe: 3 mvps

To begin with:::only pussies and assholes do MVPs.

[LkrFan]

2000 First Round. Duncan's injured and doesn't play, Spurs don't advance.

2005, 06, 07, Kobe's totally healthy (aside from a few games in '05). Team misses playoffs, gets raped by Nash twice.

Who doesn't make their team better again?

Well well well. Interesting, wouldn't you say mid?

[Reck]

Lkrfan with the bumping fever tonight.

[midnightpulp]

Well well well. Interesting, wouldn't you say mid?

Never said I blame him.

Besides, I was counter-trolling luva anyhow.

[LkrFan]

Never said I blame him.

Besides, I was counter-trolling luva anyhow.

that shiiiiiiiiiit I said.