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    Everyone seems to think this is bad luck, spurs hopes crushed,etc...

    #1) This season should have never even been played...the players really caved into the owners/Stern B.S....and in return Stern & co. made up a schedule that will completely put ALL the players at high risk for injury.

    #2) EVERY team is going to have major injuries...young teams, old teams, ....
    every team...

    #3) Hate to say it ...but Manu's injury won't even be the last major injury the Spurs will suffer...so get used to this....

    #4) The GOOD NEWS? Here it is;

    Every team has the same chance of winning a le this year...it comes down to who is the luckiest and who can roll with the punches and be there at the end...actually this is true every year..but this season it will seem magnified because of this horrendous 66 game bull season....believe me ...when other teams "stars" go down...like dominoes....the Spurs won't seem any worse...

    Thoughts?

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    1) Both the owners and players wanted the most games possible. The owners get to keep more of the TV revenue, while the players get to keep a larger prorated amount of their original contracts.

    2 and 3) The 1999 Spurs, which played in an even more condensed season and was an older team, suffered no major injury. No player in the rotation missed more than three games.

    4) There are only about six teams that can win a championship. The playoffs will be basically the same as every other season.

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    1) Both the owners and players wanted the most games possible. The owners get to keep more of the TV revenue, while the players get to keep a larger prorated amount of their original contracts.

    2 and 3) The 1999 Spurs, which played in an even more condensed season and was an older team, suffered no major injury. No player in the rotation missed more than three games.

    4) There are only about six teams that can win a championship. The playoffs will be basically the same as every other season.
    Good points but I don't remember ever seeing back-to-back-to back games and 4 or 5 games a week-all season long.

    It will remain to be seen but I, for one, will not be the least bit surprised to see more injuries than ever-certainly won't be surprised if there are more injuries than in a full 82 game season.

    Just watch.

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    Good points but I don't remember ever seeing back-to-back-to back games and 4 or 5 games a week-all season long.
    Those things were abundant in the 1999 schedule. You can't play 50 games in 3 1/2 months without that kind of scheduling.

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    Nonsense. Today's players are coddled. Wilt played over 48 minutes a game one season.

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    Good points but I don't remember ever seeing back-to-back-to back games and 4 or 5 games a week-all season long.
    The Spurs played six games in the first eight days of that season. Four games in five nights was commonplace. And they had a pair of back-to-back-to-back sets within a couple weeks of each other.

    This schedule looks like a walk in the park compared to the '99 schedule.

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    The Spurs played six games in the first eight days of that season. Four games in five nights was commonplace. And they had a pair of back-to-back-to-back sets within a couple weeks of each other.

    This schedule looks like a walk in the park compared to the '99 schedule.
    ...except that Timmy was a young gazelle...and the Spurs and Pop believed in defense....


    this won't be a walk in the park for any team...

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    The Spurs played six games in the first eight days of that season. Four games in five nights was commonplace. And they had a pair of back-to-back-to-back sets within a couple weeks of each other.

    This schedule looks like a walk in the park compared to the '99 schedule.
    Absolutely.

    That schedule was 13 weeks long (season started on a Friday and ended on a Wednesday). The Spurs played 4 games or more in 10 of the 13 weeks; they played 5 games in the first 7 days (not the first 8). Of the 50 games, there were 15 back-to-backs (including the 2 back-to-back-to-backs, which were March 25-27 and April 12-14) and 6 sets of 4-in-5s.

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    ....I'm not the kinda' guy that would say,"I told you so!"....

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    ....I'm not the kinda' guy that would say,"I told you so!"....
    yeah ... and last night I thought Courtney Lee was done as well, but it was only a calf strain ...

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    yeah ... and last night I thought Courtney Lee was done as well, but it was only a calf strain ...
    watching that Courtney Lee replay...I thought the Achilles heel had snapped like an old rubber band...

    he got lucky...

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    Nonsense. Today's players are coddled. Wilt played over 48 minutes a game one season.
    True, and AI played over 40 mpg for just about his whole career. Today's players are made of glass compared to the old guys.

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    Nonsense. Today's players are coddled. Wilt played over 48 minutes a game one season.
    Let's leave Wilt's bedroom exploits out of this...

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    True, and AI played over 40 mpg for just about his whole career. Today's players are made of glass compared to the old guys.
    I've never understood Pop's fear to play players over 30 minutes a game. Jordan and Pippen averaged at least 37+ min a game and still three-peated. Since Pop tried to aggressively reduce minutes in the RS they haven't won once.

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    I've never understood Pop's fear to play players over 30 minutes a game. Jordan and Pippen averaged at least 37+ min a game and still three-peated. Since Pop tried to aggressively reduce minutes in the RS they haven't won once.
    He did it because guys were getting hurt and appeared worn down in the playoffs. Not everyone is Jordan or Pippen or plays half court ball like the 90s Bulls.

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    The Spurs played six games in the first eight days of that season. Four games in five nights was commonplace. And they had a pair of back-to-back-to-back sets within a couple weeks of each other.

    This schedule looks like a walk in the park compared to the '99 schedule.
    Your right Timvp, brutal schedule in 1999.

    11 sets of back to backs
    2 back to backs to backs

    and even a back to back in the playoffs against the Lakers

    2 and 3) The 1999 Spurs, which played in an even more condensed season and was an older team, suffered no major injury. No player in the rotation missed more than three games.
    We were a little older in 1999 between our two rosters in the starting lineup.

    Avery Johnson (33 yrs old)
    Mario Elie (35 yrs old)
    Sean Elliott (31 yrs old)
    Tim Duncan (22 yrs old)
    David Robinson (33 yrs old)

    Starting lineup AVG age = 30.8 yrs old

    Tony Parker (29 yrs old)
    Manu Ginobili (34 yrs old)
    Richard Jefferson (31 yrs old)
    Tim Duncan (35 yrs old)
    Dejuan Blair (22 yrs old)

    Starting Lineup AVG age = 30.2 yrs old

    Biggest difference I see is that we have more size in 1999 but we have more athleticism in 2012.

    One thing I will mention is that the rules of 1999 allowed perimeter defenders to be more physical, helping a guy like Elie be a great defender. But ever since the rules changed, speed and quick feet is the only thing that wins. I don't know how good the 1999 lineup would be in todays NBA.

    Anyways, here is the schedule of 1999 season, bolded are the back to backs.


    1 Fri, Feb 5, 1999 Sacramento Kings
    2 Sat, Feb 6, 1999 Minnesota Timberwolves


    3 Mon, Feb 8, 1999 Los Angeles Lakers
    4 Tue, Feb 9, 1999 @ Minnesota Timberwolves


    5 Thu, Feb 11, 1999 @ Cleveland Cavaliers
    6 Fri, Feb 12, 1999 @ Philadelphia 76ers


    7 Sun, Feb 14, 1999 @ Chicago Bulls

    8 Wed, Feb 17, 1999 Phoenix Suns

    9 Fri, Feb 19, 1999 @ Los Angeles Lakers

    10 Sun, Feb 21, 1999 Detroit Pistons
    11 Mon, Feb 22, 1999 @ Minnesota Timberwolves


    12 Wed, Feb 24, 1999 Seattle SuperSonics

    13 Fri, Feb 26, 1999 @ Seattle SuperSonics

    14 Sun, Feb 28, 1999 Utah Jazz

    15 Tue, Mar 2, 1999 @ Houston Rockets

    16 Thu, Mar 4, 1999 @ Dallas Mavericks

    17 Sat, Mar 6, 1999 Los Angeles Clippers
    18 Sun, Mar 7, 1999 @ Denver Nuggets


    19 Wed, Mar 10, 1999 Orlando Magic

    20 Fri, Mar 12, 1999 @ Phoenix Suns
    21 Sat, Mar 13, 1999 Denver Nuggets


    22 Tue, Mar 16, 1999 @ Sacramento Kings
    23 Wed, Mar 17, 1999 @ Golden State Warriors


    24 Fri, Mar 19, 1999 @ Portland Trail Blazers
    25 Sat, Mar 20, 1999 @ Vancouver Grizzlies


    26 Tue, Mar 23, 1999 Denver Nuggets

    27 Thu, Mar 25, 1999 @ Denver Nuggets
    28 Fri, Mar 26, 1999 Toronto Raptors
    29 Sat, Mar 27, 1999 Dallas Mavericks


    30 Tue, Mar 30, 1999 Seattle SuperSonics

    31 Thu, Apr 1, 1999 Vancouver Grizzlies

    32 Sat, Apr 3, 1999 Los Angeles Clippers

    33 Mon, Apr 5, 1999 Golden State Warriors

    34 Thu, Apr 8, 1999 @ Houston Rockets

    35 Sat, Apr 10, 1999 @ Phoenix Suns

    36 Mon, Apr 12, 1999 Phoenix Suns
    37 Tue, Apr 13, 1999 @ Dallas Mavericks
    38 Wed, Apr 14, 1999 Minnesota Timberwolves


    39 Fri, Apr 16, 1999 Portland Trail Blazers

    40 Sun, Apr 18, 1999 Houston Rockets

    41 Tue, Apr 20, 1999 @ Utah Jazz

    42 Thu, Apr 22, 1999 Dallas Mavericks

    43 Sat, Apr 24, 1999 Los Angeles Lakers

    44 Mon, Apr 26, 1999 @ Los Angeles Clippers
    45 Tue, Apr 27, 1999 @ Sacramento Kings


    46 Thu, Apr 29, 1999 @ Vancouver Grizzlies

    47 Sat, May 1, 1999 Portland Trail Blazers
    48 Sun, May 2, 1999 Utah Jazz


    49 Tue, May 4, 1999 @ Portland Trail Blazers
    50 Wed, May 5, 1999 @ Golden State Warriors



    PLAYOFFS
    1 Sun, May 9, 1999 Minnesota Timberwolves
    2 Tue, May 11, 1999 Minnesota Timberwolves
    3 Thu, May 13, 1999 @ Minnesota Timberwolves
    4 Sat, May 15, 1999 @ Minnesota Timberwolves
    5 Mon, May 17, 1999 Los Angeles Lakers
    6 Wed, May 19, 1999 Los Angeles Lakers
    7 Sat, May 22, 1999 @ Los Angeles Lakers
    8 Sun, May 23, 1999 @ Los Angeles Lakers

    9 Sat, May 29, 1999 Portland Trail Blazers
    10 Mon, May 31, 1999 Portland Trail Blazers
    11 Fri, Jun 4, 1999 @ Portland Trail Blazers
    12 Sun, Jun 6, 1999 @ Portland Trail Blazers
    13 Wed, Jun 16, 1999 New York Knicks
    14 Fri, Jun 18, 1999 New York Knicks
    15 Mon, Jun 21, 1999 @ New York Knicks
    16 Wed, Jun 23, 1999 @ New York Knicks
    17 Fri, Jun 25, 1999 @ New York Knicks

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