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  1. #26
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    And Dennis Scott & Nick Anderson are all star players now
    they were very very good players....borderline Allstars

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    how many les would Duncan have if Kobe was in Charlotte or would Shaq have ram-rodded Duncan and the Spurs with Allen Iverson
    Stephan Marbury would have came to LA and won 4 rings (jk) Your talking about years down the road.

    The point is

    Shaq + (easy to find) Especially considering the Lakers already had Van Exel & Eddie Jones (Actual All Stars)

    Kobe + (hard to find) Remember this was when the Lakers were missing the playoffs

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    how many les would Duncan have if Kobe was in Charlotte or would Shaq have ram-rodded Duncan and the Spurs with Allen Iverson
    We'd probably have 1 more or so.
    But only because Iverson was/is terrible.

    ...

    Congrats. You just proved Kobe is not as bad as Iverson.
    Kool, move on to another topic, you are terrible at basketball.


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    Stephan Marbury would have came to LA and won 4 rings (jk) Your talking about years down the road.

    The point is

    Shaq + (easy to find) Especially considering the Lakers already had Van Exel & Eddie Jones (Actual All Stars)

    Kobe + (hard to find) Remember this was when the Lakers were missing the playoffs

    So let's examine...Shaq gets Swept in the finals after playing with a Star-Studded Orlando team...He comes to LA and plays with All-Stars Van Exel and Eddie Jones and guess what he still couldn't win until when again?

    When Kobe took Eddie's starting spot and came into his own...

    come hard at me or go home...right now you're game is weak

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    You're insane...Shaq had Penny and a shooters all around him..just like MJ had his whole career...MJ had shooters all around him...and 2 of the greatest defensive players in the history of the league and 1 top 50 player along with the greatest rebounder in NBA history...spar me the lesson please...
    And what happened to this AMAZING Penny & shooters when Shaq left town?

    Penny was basically Tracy McGrady

    Howard has a bunch of shooters around him and it got him 1 single Finals appearance and now this current day garbage

    You have to look at the facts & history
    When Kobe had an average NBA roster around him he was missing the playoffs & getting bounced out the 1st Round. AND threatening to skip town.

    So who knows how long Kobe even lasts in Charlotte

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    Who give a about the snitch. ancient now. He'll probably collapse on the floor tonight bcuz them old bones cant handle no back2back.

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    So let's examine...Shaq gets Swept in the finals after playing with a Star-Studded Orlando team...He comes to LA and plays with All-Stars Van Exel and Eddie Jones and guess what he still couldn't win until when again?

    When Kobe took Eddie's starting spot and came into his own...

    come hard at me or go home...right now you're game is weak
    Holy , your analytical mind just pushed you to compare Eddie Jones and Kobe Bryant? Yes, you are right. Kobe was better than Eddie Jones!

    Err... Congrats?

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    We'd probably have 1 more or so.
    But only because Iverson was/is terrible.

    ...

    Congrats. You just proved Kobe is not as bad as Iverson.
    Kool, move on to another topic, you are terrible at basketball.


    Listen you have 1/3rd the knowledge I posses on this game..did you watch those epic battles versus the Spurs...Kobe literally saved Shaq from Duncan...don't make repost some of my greatest hits on this topic...you guys can be history revisionists all you want I saw that myself you can talk that to some unsuspecting got like pass1st but not Kool...I'm a mad man

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    And what happened to this AMAZING Penny & shooters when Shaq left town?

    Penny was basically Tracy McGrady

    Howard has a bunch of shooters around him and it got him 1 single Finals appearance and now this current day garbage

    You have to look at the facts & history
    When Kobe had an average NBA roster around him he was missing the playoffs & getting bounced out the 1st Round. AND threatening to skip town.

    So who knows how long Kobe even lasts in Charlotte
    Word up. Snitch always been big man dependent. If the lil don't got a big like Shaq or the best overall frontline in basketball with Gasol, Drew, and Odom, bow out to the Suns.

    He aint also never won a Finals MVP alongside Shaq like that real Wade. The snitch is nothing more than a 6'5" A.I. Real talk.

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    So let's examine...Shaq gets Swept in the finals after playing with a Star-Studded Orlando team...He comes to LA and plays with All-Stars Van Exel and Eddie Jones and guess what he still couldn't win until when again?

    When Kobe took Eddie's starting spot and came into his own...

    come hard at me or go home...right now you're game is weak
    Where is this Star-Studded Orlando Team?

    No......Lakers won when Phil Jackson came into town & everyone matured like Derek Fisher & Rick Fox (remember them?)

    And your COMPLETELY ignoring Glen Rice. He is the reason the Lakers finally broke through the first season

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    Holy , your analytical mind just pushed you to compare Eddie Jones and Kobe Bryant? Yes, you are right. Kobe was better than Eddie Jones!

    Err... Congrats?

    The point is that Eddie was another all-star that Shaq couldn't win it all with...He had Van Exel too...

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    Dude, you were probably in middle school during the first Lakers threepeat, STFU wigger.

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    Word up. Snitch always been big man dependent. If the lil don't got a big like Shaq or the best overall frontline in basketball with Gasol, Drew, and Odom, bow out to the Suns.

    He aint also never won a Finals MVP alongside Shaq like that real Wade. The snitch is nothing more than a 6'5" A.I. Real talk.
    If you can't afford college holla at Kool I may sponsor you Taco Meat...it's hard as out there

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    Dude, you were probably in middle school during the first Lakers threepeat, STFU wigger.
    Ohh ok that's all you got...Bow down to my greatness puhlease

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    , when Kobe actually has a decent Finals series, come at me. Homeboy Wade already got two great ones in the books. Read this and weep, mutha a...

    Dwyane Wade Mia 2006 34.7 7.8 3.8 46.8 33.8
    Tim Duncan SA 2003 24.2 17.0 5.3 49.5 32.0
    Michael Jordan Chi 1991 31.2 6.6 11.4 55.8 31.5
    Shaquille O'Neal LAL 2002 36.3 12.3 3.8 59.5 31.4
    Shaquille O'Neal LAL 2000 38.0 16.7 2.3 61.1 31.1
    Michael Jordan Chi 1998 33.5 4.0 2.3 42.7 30.8
    Tim Duncan SA 1999 27.4 14.0 2.4 53.7 30.7
    Dwyane Wade Mia 2011 26.5 7.0 5.2 54.6 30.2
    Michael Jordan Chi 1997 32.3 7.0 6.0 45.6 29.5
    Shaquille O'Neal LAL 2001 33.0 15.8 4.8 57.3 29.4

    Where your snitch at?

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    The flaw in logic your making is trying to compare Shaq & Kobe

    Not only was Shaq greater he played a more influential & weaker position (bad post players). So his influence was by logic much greater


    Other great guards would have signed up to play along side Shaq IN LOS ANGELES

    Which post players would have signed up to join Kobe IN CHARLOTTE? Going a step further Kobe is Iverson & Dominique Wilkins without Shaq so the whole argument is pathetic.

    You think if in 2001, Shaq & Mutumbo switch jerseys that mayyyyybe the Sixers beat the Lakers?

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    , when Kobe actually has a decent Finals series, come at me. Homeboy Wade already got two great ones in the books. Read this and weep, mutha a...

    Dwyane Wade Mia 2006 34.7 7.8 3.8 46.8 33.8
    Tim Duncan SA 2003 24.2 17.0 5.3 49.5 32.0
    Michael Jordan Chi 1991 31.2 6.6 11.4 55.8 31.5
    Shaquille O'Neal LAL 2002 36.3 12.3 3.8 59.5 31.4
    Shaquille O'Neal LAL 2000 38.0 16.7 2.3 61.1 31.1
    Michael Jordan Chi 1998 33.5 4.0 2.3 42.7 30.8
    Tim Duncan SA 1999 27.4 14.0 2.4 53.7 30.7
    Dwyane Wade Mia 2011 26.5 7.0 5.2 54.6 30.2
    Michael Jordan Chi 1997 32.3 7.0 6.0 45.6 29.5
    Shaquille O'Neal LAL 2001 33.0 15.8 4.8 57.3 29.4

    Where your snitch at?
    Wade losing with Lebron and Bosh..Epic fail

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    Snitch can't even notch an all-time Finals performance and we supposed to believe this punk is Jordan's heir?



    nothing but a rich man A.I.

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    Kool, NBA talk is no Bieber fantalk you are used to.

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    Wade losing with Lebron and Bosh..Epic fail
    Kobe lose with them 4 hall of famers in '04. And unlike wade last year, Kobe was the reason they lost. Wade was a beast all finals last year. Cant put on him. Kobe shot something like 30% against Detroit. That what I call a fail, punk ass.

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    The flaw in logic your making is trying to compare Shaq & Kobe

    Not only was Shaq greater he played a more influential & weaker position. So his influence was by logic much greater


    Other great guards would have signed up to play along side Shaq IN LOS ANGELES

    Which post players would have signed up to join Kobe IN CHARLOTTE? Going a step further Kobe is Iverson & Dominique Wilkins without Shaq so the whole argument is pathetic.

    You think if in 2001, Shaq & Mutumbo switch jerseys that mayyyyybe the Sixers beat the Lakers?
    nothing flawed about my logic...you MJ fanbois I understand have been plotting your response since 1998.... you've had a long time to think about it but the reality is say no one would have played with Kobe but they would have with Shaq... they did and they lost...Penny, Jones, and Van Exel that's 3 all-stars...Go back to my OP and start all over you apparently can't read or comprehend not sure which

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    Kobe lose with them 4 hall of famers in '04. And unlike wade last year, Kobe was the reason they lost. Wade was a beast all finals last year. Cant put on him. Kobe shot something like 30% against Detroit. That what I call a fail, punk ass.

    uhh ok Taco Meat..I like to encourage you because it's prolly the only mental stimulation you get all day

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    No one here compares Kobe with MJ, wigger.
    Not even you. You compared Kobe to Iverson and E.Jones.

    Which is a fair comparison. I commend you for your vision, Kool.
    A poll asking which of the 3 is the better player would surely provoke an interesting and fair debate fro the community.

  24. #49
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    No one here compares Kobe with MJ, wigger.
    Not even you. You compared Kobe to Iverson and E.Jones.

    Which is a fair comparison. I commend you for your vision, Kool.
    A poll asking which of the 3 is the better player would surely provoke an interesting and fair debate fro the community.

    Bend over and I'll show you a poll er pole

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    nothing flawed about my logic...you MJ fanbois I understand have been plotting your response since 1998.... you've had a long time to think about it but the reality is say no one would have played with Kobe but they would have with Shaq... they did and they lost...Penny, Jones, and Van Exel that's 3 all-stars...Go back to my OP and start all over you apparently can't read or comprehend not sure which
    Shaq in Orlando had to face Jordan and prime Hakeem in his runs. Snitch ass had to go through a Weak ass West (Suns, Jazz, and Nuggets ), Dwight "No Post Game" Howard, and an old ass Celtics team. Snitch's championships runs were cruise control.

    Yeah, he was important in the 3 peat, I'll give you that

    ...as the second option.

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