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    Believe. jason1301's Avatar
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    TP simply can't carry this team. What ppl don't realize that the basketball mileage on his body is not that of a typical 29 year old NBA player. Tony turned pro in Europe at the age of 16 --which explains that he played so good and adjusted to the NBA at an early age, similar to what R. Rubio does now.

    He 'll play better later this season, but I don't have my hopes up. I don't think we 'll see Tony from '07 or '09.

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    I think you're a bit easy on Duncan with a B+, he was VERY average in that game, the only positive being that he defended the rim better than any other Spur (which is not a surprise, unfortunately).

    Leonard was doing great, the best Spur for me yesterday, very active on D yet getting some offense going too, which is important. Remember that you said you didn't see how he could ever contribute offensively at the beginning of the season. He is really exceeding expectations.

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    TP simply can't carry this team. What ppl don't realize that the basketball mileage on his body is not that of a typical 29 year old NBA player. Tony turned pro in Europe at the age of 16 --which explains that he played so good and adjusted to the NBA at an early age, similar to what R. Rubio does now.

    He 'll play better later this season, but I don't have my hopes up. I don't think we 'll see Tony from '07 or '09.
    lol a bunch of excuses, euroball they only play once a week...yeh alot of mileage...lol

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    Kawhi hasn't taken a shot from 3 in the last 2 games. Yet his offense has been the best these past 2 games. I think he is figuring it out, although Spurs SF typically are asked to hit the corner three, there are other way to contribute. His defense on Durant is one of the best I've seen from a Spur. while his rebounding is just special as a SF. At this point come playoff time he is our 4th best big and best perimeter defender. So without question he will get his minutes.
    If you're looking to rebuild for the future, you've got to look at Anderson , RJ and to lesser extent Tony as possible trading piecess. Contrary to what people might think the trade value of Parker isn't high. I think lottery bound teams woud'nt trade their first pick for any of the 3 players. Tony included. So based on what you can get in return , i think it's still best to keep Tony in regardless if he has lost a step or so, With our dept in the wings, especially when Manu returns before the trade deadline I think either Anderson or RJ become expendable for a trade. I don't expect much in return , maybe a serviceble big at best or a low or mid level 1st round pick.

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    As long as we win the home games we'll be good in the span Manu is out. We had 0 chance of winning this game. Hopefully we can steal at least a handful on the road against the lesser teams.

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    IMO, TP's struggles can be directly attributed to Bonner's reduced minutes this season.

    As we all know by now, the reduced floor-spreading causes Tony not to be able to find the lanes inside to exploit.

    So I wouldn't worry too much about it. CIA Pop clearly is saving the best for last, so when Matty goes back to his larger role, TP's performance should increase accordingly.
    Careful there, some people might take that as a valid point.

    Watching Bonner getting destroyed by Collison was sad, but also hilarious at times.
    I wouldn't worry too much about the bad games Green and TJ had - they were both due one, so to speak. If TJ was playing every game like he did against Denver, he wouldn't be a backup PG ...
    Leonard looks like he might become one of the better defenders against Durant in this league, which is quite something.

    Yeah, watching TP is not a nice thing to do these days. I hope it's just a matter of him needing to get his legs back.

    As for the Thunder, they are legit and will be the ones coming out of the West sooner rather than later.

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    My favorite part of the game was during a free throw that was missed...Bonner simply backed out of the way and let Collison tip it back in. It had to be the worst block out in the history of basketball.

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    On offense, this game was Regression to the Mean + Tired Legs. Meh, I'm not too unhappy and definitely not surprised, OKC's a better team anyway.
    On defense, the problem is deeper and more intransigent: our bigs can't protect the rim. Christ what I wouldn't give to see Ibaka in a Spurs uni...

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    It's a logical loss. A healthy Thunder team is better than an healthy Spurs team and Spurs aren't healthy.

    Saying that, Parker needs to play way better and Spurs FO likely needs to waive Diogu and try another bigman.

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    On offense, this game was Regression to the Mean + Tired Legs. Meh, I'm not too unhappy and definitely not surprised, OKC's a better team anyway.
    On defense, the problem is deeper and more intransigent: our bigs can't protect the rim. Christ what I wouldn't give to see Ibaka in a Spurs uni...
    Duncan and Splitter need to start together. That's our best option as far as rim protection. The Spurs need a fifth big Blair can play with off the bench.

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    Nonsense. His 34.3 Dotbr (Defensive off the ball ranking) is off the charts, despite what you see. Your TV is lying to you, imagine that.
    You got me thinking ... for about 0.583 seconds

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    My favorite part of the game was during a free throw that was missed...Bonner simply backed out of the way and let Collison tip it back in. It had to be the worst block out in the history of basketball.
    Yeah, that was brutal. But what can you do against Dwight "Shaq" Collsion?

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    T.J. really morphed into the player I thought we would see when he signed. He looked far more to get himself going, than getting the Spurs into their offensive sets. Give the Thunder some credit, their length and defense really limited his penetrations and clearly bothered him. Ford compounded his problems by dribbling too much, too.

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    It's a logical loss. A healthy Thunder team is better than an healthy Spurs team and Spurs aren't healthy.

    Saying that, Parker needs to play way better and Spurs FO likely needs to waive Diogu and try another bigman.
    So we've changed from a revolving wing player to a revolving bigman. Well, at least the wings look way better.

    On a side note, did Gani Lawal officially sign overseas yet?

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    LMAO how the does Bonner not get an F?

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    this game was hard to watch live :/ thunder fans are louder than mile high

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    The Thunder seemed to break the game open on a succession of Spurs defensive miscues. They repeatedly isolated the Spurs bigs in pick-n-roll situations and either beat them off the dribble or kicked out to open shooters. It seems that when the Thunder missed on dribble drive penetrations to the hoop, there was usually a Thunder teammate there to clean up the mess with a timely putback.

    Meanwhile, the Spurs are crippled on the frontline because they're really playing with 3 bigs (Duncan, Splitter and Blair - Bonner doesn't count). The Spurs were getting minimal points in the paint and, at least of this game, couldn't keep the young Thunder out of the lane.

    The lack of an interior paint presence, on both ends - but especially on the defensive end - was really alarming. Of course, it's a wart that has been exposed in the past two playoffs. It's only getting progressively worse.
    As TimVP said, many times our bigs --and especially Bonner-- were left holding the bag on the pick and roll by TP. When our bigs tried to recover they were way behind the Denver guys. During the halftime I asked on the game blod if anyone else was seeing what I was seeing about TP's absolute disinterest in defending the P&R. I didn't use the phrase 'left holding the bag" but this was just what was happening to our bigs with Parker's failure to switch or put any effort into the defense.

    As Pop often says, you can't control your offense sometimes when the shots won't fall, but you can contribute by putting out the effort on defense. Parker looks like a guy who's given up on the season with Manu out.

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    DeJuan Blair B-
    On defense, DeJuan Blair was really active. Unfortunately, about half the time that activity worked against him. Offensively, I thought Blair did well -- he matched the physicality of Kendrick Perkins and used his bulk against the athleticism of Serge Ibaka. Blair's night ended when Durant kneed him in the back of his leg, which is more worrisome with him due to Blair's knee injury history. Let's hope he's okay going forward.
    I immediately thought about Blair's knees when he went down and started limping around the court. Fortunately, when he was talking to the trainers on the bench, he seemed to be grabbing and motioning toward his calf, not his knee, so I think he'll be okay (in relative terms, anyways).

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    I immediately thought about Blair's knees when he went down and started limping around the court. Fortunately, when he was talking to the trainers on the bench, he seemed to be grabbing and motioning toward his calf, not his knee, so I think he'll be okay (in relative terms, anyways).
    KNEED REST: Blair and point guard Tony Parker left the game in the second half after each taking a knee to the back of the leg.

    Both were sore and bruised but could have played had the game still been in reach. Barring a setback, both said they would be ready for Tuesday’s game at Milwaukee.

    http://blog.mysanantonio.com/spursna...2%80%99s-fire/

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    The Spurs won't win many game 2s of a b2b. Shocker. No one predicted that.

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