Parker was still one of the main problems against the Grizz (Spurs frontline and an injured Ginobili being the other 2 big reasons). Parker did not have a decent series gainst the Grizz, especially considering he's the healthiest and youngest member of the Big 3.
From those numbers, which don't tell the whole story about how bad Parker played, he still didn't play up to par for 4/6 games. First game he had a terrible FG% when the Spurs needed him the most with Manu out, second game he was able to distribute but still struggled to score as he only had 12 points on 14 attempts, and he had turnover/scoring problems again in the other games. And Parker's defense, well, yea..
Parker's struggles in the Grizz series showed some of his decline but to me its been apparent in the past couple of seasons. Hopefully he can turn things around, but it seems unlikely, especially in this league of length and athletic guards and a hectic season. Imo Parker doesn't have the legs to be a consistent primary option but time will tell
The problem is the gamble the FO is taking by waiting and seeing if he gets "it" back. If he doesn't, and his play continues to decline, the Spurs are going to be stuck with a point guard with average speed that can't create plays or shoot very well. And is a defensive liability.
Buy low sell high applies here. The Spurs have already missed the chance to sell at the peak. They need to avoid holding the bag at the end.
Parker looks fatigued or something. He just isn't all there. He may have already sold out mentally on the Spurs and couldn't care less what happens now.
It also doesn't help when TJ Ford comes in and starts handing out dimes with ease. It would be good if they traded him for a big (or a 20pt scorer) before the league figures out he is on the decline.
Parker's only value was his speed. I'd rather have a slower point guard that can make assists than a slightly quicker than average point guard that can't. Espeically, if I can fill some other need by trading him.
Two weeks ago, I was against trading Parker until the season was over. Now, I'm open to the idea.
Funny how when Manu goes down things get exposed quick! REAL QUICK!
Sexting takes a lot out of you, especially sexting back to backs
He's the only threat out there right now that can drive and score. With Manu Hurt, it's easier for teams to concentrate more on TP. Everyone else feeds off of Tony's penetration now that TD doesn't demand a double team. They run way more pick and rolls to free up TP. This yr is key to start the game fast so they can take a good lead because most teams are not going to fight to come back this yr because they might have a game the next night. Teams will be pulling their stars so that they are ready the next day instead of trying to pull a come from behind win and risk still losing and be too tired to play the next night.
Who's wife do you think it is this time? Maybe Tiago's? Its gotta be somebody's woman, cause the last time TP played this bad was 2yrs ago when RJ first got here. Then the next season it all came out. I'm still trying to figure out how they kept him around.
Everyone makes mistakes, but this wasn't just some dude passing thru. This was a guy you played 4seasons with and won 2rings with. That's some Delonte type nonsense. I thought after that they might try to deal him, because if I am in the locker room and Tony says he is dead tired and then I come home to my wife and she says she is very tired ,but didnt do crap all day then I'll automatically be wondering............
That kinda of su ion kills a locker room.
That's weird, cause the times TP went down and Manu was the only option the job still got done and the TEAM AS A WHOLE played together and ultimately better. Remember when TP was out towards the end of the 09-10 season and Manu put on his cape? No doubt teams keyed in on him, but because he can score in a bunch of ways and has solid passing game he was unstoppable. Remember how RJ, Blair and HIll played with Manu?
took you three years to see this? well that's still better than most here I guess..
and I'm sure you think Manu has been a valuable asset for the last 3 years
He most certainly gets a lot more attention when Manu is out. Neal and Green have benefited from this. His shots are not falling like they need to though. I think we'll see him snap out of it and other teams realizing the threat of some of the other guys.
We are talking about TP. Manu is a well rounded player. TP doesnt have a shot besides that 15 footer and that is streaky. TP is a get to the whole type of player. Now that TD gets little to no attention it makes it hard for him to get to the whole. He is not as fast as he used to be either so thats why his assist are up. He can still get to the whole but his defender is still with him so he has to dish the ball or force something up.
I think he's playing very similar to the first few games of the Memphis series. His defensive effort also seems worse after Manu went down. Kind of like he's not putting in full effort because he's dejected about the Manu injury. To me, he is playing exactly like he started out in the first few games of the Memphis series.
Last edited by Ice009; 01-09-2012 at 08:43 PM.
What hold's TP back is his ability to control a game with passing instead of scoring. He's been passing pretty good this season but he's not elite in that category. Parker's not that great at finding people for easy baskets in the paint. He tends to get his assists on outside shots which explains why he doesn't average that many and they are not always consistent. When the teams shooting well from the outside he tends to rack up the assists but not otherwise. Even ballhog Westbrook averaged 8 apg last season.
I've been tired of Tony Parker. In his prime he was the best penetrating/mid range Point in the game. Injuries and age have taken a toll on him and his inability to become a pass first point guard make him pretty average. Not to mention that he never was that much of a defender. Letting George Hill go was a mistake. This game is PG dominated and Parker can't defend elite Points in this league. I also believe that he is older that we're made to believe.
As most here I am disappointed with Parker slow start.
Spurs probably need more scoring out of him.
But until now he never tried to become a pass first PG (not necessary when last year his FG% was 52%). So how would you know he can't?
His FG% could be just a statistical anomaly. Two years ago he struggled with an injury and was slow but still had a 48 FG%.
113 FGA is not much, if you use that as a sample to measure his FG%, the expected error is near 10% (see Law of Large Number).
But, assuming he can't score anymore I don't see why he could not become a solid pass first PG. Clearly not the most creative passer but one who can take care of the ball and find the open shooter.
This year he is near elite in passing statistics:
- #8 in AP48M with 11.6 (note: T.T. is #7)
- #2 in A/TO with 4.95
He also has good +/- and On Court/Off Court statistics.
I believe he is really an underrated passer. He has been near the top of the league in Assist/BadPass for several years for a reason.
People has been complaining about him not being a pass first PG for years. Well, that may be happening... be careful what you wish for.
I think he's tired too. Of a lot of things, Manu always being hurt, busting his ass in the reg season when in the playoffs someone gets hurt and the season goes to . He still gets paid though.
Tony will be fine. For years he's actually played well above what he should be doing. We expect him to be a points leader on a team that has options, and we expect him to be an assists leader on a team that has passers. He doesn't run the offense, he runs with the offense and often times he is the offense.
I think he will get his legs back. Again, it was a long break and he handles the ball as much if not more than anyone else.
By mid season, we should see what he's going to do, if anything.
So if you go by the quote in your signature, your small minded, correct?took you three years to see this? well that's still better than most here I guess..
and I'm sure you think Manu has been a valuable asset for the last 3 years
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