the new Big 12

[vander]

Somalia hasn't been a socialist country since 1991 so idk why you blame socialism for their current struggles. I can give you several examples of countries in Africa that are predominantly Christian with the same civil war problems Somalia has if you want. Canada is however a socialist country that focuses on education and has free tuition for any student who's parents make less than 40k a year, yet doesn't have the debt problem the US has.

You said you hate public education because it's a money pit the US gets nothing in return for. War in countries like Iraq is a money pit the US gets nothing in return for. By that logic you shouldn't be a big fan of war either.

what does Christian have to do with any of this? and why are you trying to make an argument for public education by pointing out poor African countries? how do those countries even remotely compare to America?

Canada is moving towards capitalism, and has never been been on the socialist side of the slider.

the cost of public education will only continue to snowball, like every other public program, whereas the Iraq war is pretty much in the books, and the fact that you think that the money spent on the Iraq war was a waste doesn't make it so, a stable, free, and prosperous Iraq will benefit the world economy, whereas a the alternative would have only lead to more death and destruction.

and public education is more than just a many pit, it does a very poor job of educating the youth. no compe ion + endless government funding = stagnant inefficient education.

[vander]

I think your private education may have failed you in an area or two.

4 posts now, no facts, no points, only arrogance and premise, typical...

[ChumpDumper]

Canada is moving towards capitalism, and has never been been on the socialist side of the slider.

lol

More great stuff.

[vander]

name some. Without a free education for kids who have nothing, how are they supposed to get good grades?

did you read the post?
cheaper education
charity
loans
family, friends, *gasp* church

also there needs to be a little personal responsibility, if you can't save up a couple thousand dollars in 7 years to put your kid in school, then you shouldn't have brought a kid into that world

[vander]

lol

more great stuff.

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[ChumpDumper]

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Without realizing it, you undermine your own argument every time you post.

It's hilarious.

[Magua]

It's pretty disconcerting to know that vander actually believes the he posts--and that's there many more like him.

The world is a scary place.

[vander]

Without realizing it, you undermine your own argument every time you post.

It's hilarious.

because you think so?


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[Blake]

well aren't you just full of insightful posts

I highly recommend you post in the political forum.

It's an entertaining place.

[ChumpDumper]

because you think so?

No, it's very clear what you are doing. I guess things like this aren't taught in private schools.

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You've undermined yourself 13 times so far.

[vander]

It's pretty disconcerting to know that vander actually believes the he posts--and that's there many more like him.

The world is a scary place.

once again the opposition can only respond with premise.

props to DoK for actually trying to put up some arguments.

the rest up you need to open up your minds that the public education system closed so tight

[ChumpDumper]

once again the opposition can only respond with premise.

props to DoK for actually trying to put up some arguments.

the rest up you need to open up your minds that the public education system closed so tight

I'm not really responding with premise. I'm laughing at yours in full context.

This is great.

[Magua]

the rest up you need to open up your minds that the public education system closed so tight

Tbh I couldn't help but think of the Kuato, from Total Recall when I read this.

[Horns_Up]

lack of public education is the problem in Somalia? or is it the Socialism and Islam?

A) Do you know what socialism is? You do know you have to have a functional government to have socialism correct (This is with the provision that communism and socialism are two totally different and separate forms of government. Like as different as East and West Germany circa 1980)? I don't think you could ever construe this government of any previous government of Somalia as socialist.

B) Some of the fastest growing and capitalistic countries in the world have large Islamic populations. Your post reeks of xenophobia and a poor understanding of economics, the public education system and socialism. Much less world history.

You also reek of supporting Ron Paul for the republican nomination. Good luck with that.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

what does Christian have to do with any of this?

What does Islam have to do with it?

and why are you trying to make an argument for public education by pointing out poor African countries? how do those countries even remotely compare to America?

I'm giving you examples of countries that have a completely free market with no public education

Canada is moving towards capitalism, and has never been been on the socialist side of the slider.

Labeling Canada as socialist or capitalist wasn't my point. My point was that Canada has a public education system and free tuition for any student with parents below the poverty line (40k), yet they don't have a debt problem at all.

the fact that you think that the money spent on the Iraq war was a waste doesn't make it so, a stable, free, and prosperous Iraq will benefit the world economy, whereas a the alternative would have only lead to more death and destruction.

1) calling modern day Iraq a stable or prosperous country
2) You said public education is a money pit the US gets no returns on. What returns will the US get from the Iraq war?

and public education is more than just a many pit, it does a very poor job of educating the youth. no compe ion + endless government funding = stagnant inefficient education.

I agree with this, but that doesn't mean you get rid of public education completely. You repeal stuff like the No Child Left behind act that has ed up public education.

did you read the post?
cheaper education
charity
loans
family, friends, *gasp* church

Oh boy. Charity? Seriously?

also there needs to be a little personal responsibility, if you can't save up a couple thousand dollars in 7 years to put your kid in school, then you shouldn't have brought a kid into that world

I couldn't possibly agree with this anymore than I do, but the parents don't suffer when they're too irresponsible to save for their kid's education, the kid does. Plenty of kids deserve the same opportunities I have for having responsible parents.

[The Reckoning]

i go to publik skool and i spel reel gud

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

A) Do you know what socialism is?

Most Republicans don't. They hear Sean Hannity or Rush Limbaugh call Barrack Obama a socialist and say his socialist policies will ruin America and use that to draw conclusions about what socialism is.